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Midseason Review + Trade Targets, TNF Preview | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1835

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Midseason audit episode where the hosts review mistakes, trade targets and league-position anxiety.

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We really, you haven't seen anything from J.J. McCarty. The vibes are weird, though, aren't they? The vibes are weird in the fact that, like, you're right. And I don't know why the team and, like, all the vibes aren't around that. He's played, he played week one. Three quarters were a disaster. It was his first start ever. And it's the opening weekend. And then his fourth quarter is great. He brings the team back against the Bears. Week two, he gets hurt in the third quarter. And he's playing on a bum ankle for. That's all we've seen. And that's it. That's all we've seen of JJ McCarthy. So there's not either, I mean, if you like McCarthy, you're like, hey, he's played one and a half healthy games in the NFL. If you didn't like McCarthy, look how bad that was. So I think we're still very much in limbo. I'm hopeful just based off of Kevin O'Connell's past of being able to maximize these quarterback. Yeah, I would still rather have.

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Justin Jefferson, even though he's the Watertaker 14 right now, I'd have him over most of the guys ahead of him. Gary Wilson? Yeah, I would rather have him. Devante Adams? Yep, yep. George Pickens, all those guys that are ahead of him, I would still take Justin Jeffs. So you've got him at like probably like four or five, yeah. CD Lamb or him? CD. Yeah, I would take CD too. All right, well, who's the most likely to jump into the top 15 rest of season from the group of? You know, I'm looking at these names. I don't really think any of them are in there, but maybe Devante Smith. Oh, to drop? No, to jump in. To jump. DeMonte Smith is sitting at 20 right now. There's a lot of rumors around AJ Brown being shopped. I would put Teteroa McMillan there. Who's at 33? Yeah, he's, he's low, but, you know, this is a very talented guy who's had so many great flashes. I feel like you are the biggest Tet McMillan fan in the world because you bring them up constantly as like.

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You view him a lot higher than what he's doing so far. Yes, I view him much higher than what he's done, and I think at the end of the season, he will be coming through. I've seen enough on film to know he can get it done. We have history of even Bryce Young getting it done with Adam Thielen. He's a rookie. He's figuring it out on a mediocre offense, and you expect the second half of the year to be better than the first. Also, Rishi Rice. Yes, yes. I'll take him. What is he? Do you want Jefferson or Rice? I would take Rice. I don't, I mean, there's not many. There's not many people. I mean, he's not in this list because only two games played, but Rushie Rice right now. Go offer that trade, Mike. Go offer that to Jefferson for Rice. Shut. You won't do it. See, Ducers Alley. I don't think they would do it. They would not trade rice for Jefferson. No, because you have Patrick Mahomes, who's bawling out. Rushi Rice is a great name to bring up. He's averaging 20.4.

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in his only two games, super small sample. But as a reminder, number one, when we talked about wide receivers, was Puka and JSN tied at 18.6. So, yeah, I mean, Rushie Rice is currently the number one in points per game. And so, and then you would, so what's he average, Jay? You said 20.2, is that what I said? And then if you tacked that on his, the first three weeks of last year, he was averaging 17.6. So that's a five game run. of just being not good, being elite. Tight ends. Tucker Crafts at number one. Trey McBride at number two. Dallas Goddert at number three on pace for 16 spectacular rushing or receiving touchdowns. Jake Ferguson sitting at four. Tyler Warren at five. You know, from that group, if we are redoing this at the end of the season, it's like Kraft could easily be there. McBride could easily be there.

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Warren could easily be there. I have my doubts that Goddard and Ferguson would be there. That's for sure. I was on the opposite side. I believe Kelsey's going to have a pretty significant second half compared to Jason's view of Kelsey. I still like Kelsey a lot. He's at six right now. Gadsden's at seven with the points per game. But over the last three games, when he's really been utilized in the snaps have been there, he's averaging 16.8, which would be... 2.8 higher than number one. If you have to rate your belief in Gadsden rest of season, 100 is full maximum belief, zero is I don't believe. Yeah. What number are you at with Gadsden for the rest of the season? I'm at 77. 75. Ooh, we're very close. This is, we didn't talk about it in the wide receivers, but it's comical to me that wide receiver 17, wide receiver 18, and wide receiver 25.

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all in that exact same range as Keenan Allen, Johnston, and Ladd and Ladd-McConkey. So you are going to have- Ladd could jump up to. You're going to have bad games from Gadsden, but he is established it. He's very good. So is Lad. Yeah, very nice. All those guys are, are, don't push it. Talented wide receivers on a good offense. You just can't have all four be consistent. Darren Waller is at number eight. Kincaid at nine, Laporta, 10. tied with pits there at 8.6. You know, I looked at the pits like game log the other day, and I'm just like, yeah, all right. You know what I mean? Like, he's a player that you, if you started, he's not really murdering you, but he's never giving you anything special. Yeah. Outside that group, Brock Bowers is the obvious name that's going to be there. I think Fanon could definitely be there. Both those guys should probably pass a handful of the other names we mentioned. Yeah, and I'm also curious what happens with the Ravens tight end.

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between likely and Mark Andrews and whether they can become relevant when Lamar Jackson is playing. I agree. Let's talk some mailbag. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. All right. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, The Fantasy Footballers.com. Click that, submit a question button. Or dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. Our first question here today comes from Randy. Says, I've been offered a trade to give up Jamar Chase, and I get JSN. JSN has already had his buy week, and Chase is about to have his buy. Should I take this trade in week nine? Now, I'm going to bring something up. Man. There was a point in the season where Jamar Chase had Jake Browning as his quarterback, and he had put up two or three horrific games.

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And the idea of trading him for Kuge was brought up on the show. And at the time, Kuge was the wide receiver three, I think. And it was like... Before he got hurt. Before he got hurt. And we didn't see a path for Chase to become good for the rest of the season with Browning. And so we were thinking Kuge was probably a good decision at the time. You look at this situation. Jason's on top of the world. Jamar Chase has Joe Flacco. But I still look at it and say, hey, Jamar Chase has more volatility and I have some fear that if Flacco's hurt,

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The odds of flaco, the odds of flaco finishing this season with the current injury to the shoulder. Like you said, Andy, he gets tackled, you know, really hard. He's going to at some point in time. Is he getting through the next, you know, eight weeks without re-aggravating that injury and having browning time? I would be really, I'd be really surprised. So what is your answer? I mean, this is JSN for me. The bye weeks, if, if. Both of them had the same buy week. I would rather take JSN over Jamar Chase. We're going into week nine? Yes. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. So we're going into week nine. So 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and then playoffs, right? So when you're after the buy. Six more games before the playoffs. So there's six games of JSN you get, and you get five of Chase. And then it's, so to me it's JSN as well. It.

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But it doesn't mean it's an easy call. Yeah, it's not an easy call. It's JSN for me too. It's the, it's everything is Flacco. Like if Joe Flacco, let's say he's good this weekend and then he just, and he manages to not get hurt. If Flacco is there, Jamar Chase is better than JSN. I think, I think points per game. But you're more, your risk factor is much higher of something happening to Joe Flacco than Sam Darnold. Would you trade? This is a question from, I don't know what platform it is. It's from Log. Is that Logan? No, or is it Log? That's Log. He's better. In North Kakalaki? It's better than bad. It's good. Yeah. Rolls down stairs and over the chairs. This is from the website. Would you trade away? Also your neighbor's dog. I'm Ameca Abuka for Ascenti. I mean, I think it is a, I think it's a fair value.

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Mike said no. No, I would not. Sure. I mean, it's got to be in a vacuum. This is whenever you're talking about a running back for a wide receiver. Please don't question Mike again. Obviously, this is a depth and a need situation. I do think that it's fair. That's the question. Yeah, fair is fine. When trades like this happen, it's, you know, you have a lot of depth running back and you don't have it at wide receiver or vice versa. Yeah, I could easily see myself being a team that trades away Ameca Egbuka. for Ashen Genti. I could easily see myself being a team that trades Ash and Genti away from Mecca Egbuka. This is just neat. Do you think that there are people that trade, I think there are people that trade to get the better end of the deal and there are people that trade and just want to make sure that they don't get taken. Yeah. Sometimes the questions we get, we get so many trade questions and a lot of the times you just want validation that that is fair, that I'm not getting taken advantage of her, that I'm not getting the raw end of the, because maybe you really want.

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Ashton Gentie. This trade's fair if you really want Ashton Genti. Our trade tool will help you. It is in development getting closer and closer by the minute. So if you are part of the Foot Clan at Footclan.com, then that tool will be able to answer those questions for you, from us, without us. Isaac in Miami, would you rather have, who would you rather have rest of the season? Chase Brown or DeAndre Swift? Oh, that's a... My first reaction is Swift. That was my first. I think that that is fearful. Like I agree with Mike that I would want Joe Flacco. The Joe Flacco looks great and this Bengals offense with their weapons, they can be great with Joe Flacko, but it does feel like a house of cards. It feels very fragile because we are relying on an older guy.

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to sustain a football season while he's currently injured and has no offensive line. In a tough division against tough divisional opponents. I see them very similarly in the fact that like P. Rhine's getting snaps for Cincinnati. You have Monongai getting snaps for Chicago. You have an offense that we believe in with Flacco. We have seen a lot of good stuff with Swift. In three games, the three Joe Flacco games, Chase Brown is averaging 14.3 fantasy points. So, and. We got almost 14 opportunities a game. And I think most importantly, he, where's the yards per carry? Yards per attempt is at seven. Well, like, you can, it's, it's crazy. Like, you can't always go box score hunt and, and, and see things easily. You can see where Joe Flacco joined the team.

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after the bye week, which you guys have said maybe they figured out what to do with Swift, he's averaging 19.6 fantasy points a game. I think the answer is swift. I think the answer is wild. Crazy. Yeah, I think they're very similar, but I again, risk aversion a little bit, which is a crazy thing to say with DeAndre Swift. Yeah. Tim in Sacramento says, hey guys, give me the argument to convince my league mates to change our IR rules. Currently a player has to officially be on the IR. to be able to be placed on the fantasy IR. Their argument is if it's not a team's IR, then he can't be on yours. My argument is currently, that is dumb. It's strong. It's a good starting point. To say that's dumb? Because it is. I mean, if a... The purpose of an IR spot, let's start there, is to give a roster the flexibility, if your league desires, to manage injury. And...

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If you have to cut players or not have enough players on your bench, it's a choice, right? You can make that choice in your league. I think we all find that to be not as fun, not as enjoyable. If a player goes to out or soon doubtful or out, we think you should be able to go stash them in that spot. If they become active in that spot, you are locked out of doing anything on your roster until you fix your roster and make it right. So it's self-regulating. That's the crux, is that it has to still be a platform-based automation.

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So like I know on Sleeper, you can check the box that says doubtful players can be allowed an IR. You can't just be like, because even if you've turned that feature on, you can't see a report that says, I don't think this player's playing this week, but he's not even moved to doubtful and be like, I should be able to put him there. It can't just be a anytime you want. But yes, we tried in our league of record, we tried to push that through mid-season. We don't really do that very often. It just, it's got to the point where.

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Yeah, if they're doubtful, they almost never play. And the entire purpose of the IR is to give yourself that freedom when you lose a player and you've lost them. Yeah, that's the thing is injuries. Injuries of fantasy football are the, it's the worst. It's the worst. And it will happen to every single person who plays fantasy football. You will have someone that you love and someone that you're counting on get hurt. If a bench is like five players, it's, to me, it's like a double punishment. Like you don't get that guy and now you're hamstrung of, what are you going to do? You only have four bench spots now because you can't move that player to IR. So to me, it's just about trying to alleviate injuries the most that we can.

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Yeah, they already sucks so bad. And just having grace for each other as fantasy football players. I'm not like, oh, yeah, oh man, you see Andy got his guy's hurt. That sucks to be you. Yeah. Yeah, we know it sucks. Don't. It already sucks. Yeah. Don't double punish people. Ryan in North Carolina, is it fair to accept the trade after a player in the trade gets injured? Is it fair? It's disgusting. You cannot do that. Not unless, obviously, if both sides, if you're fine to trade. an injured player like away or trade for them that's fine but is absolutely not okay if a trade offer was made and then a player gets injured and it was just sitting there and then you accept it oh no no i i had that situation in in our listener league i had an offer where jaden daniels and uh rushy rice for josh allen and they was sitting there i hadn't

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accepted it or declined it and jaden Daniels got injured i would never have been like ha ha ha you gotcha that's that's pure bush league yep can't do it all right also that that is a PSA avoid this don't let them hang do not let trade offers be sitting for players who are actively playing yeah pull them down on sunday we get tweets on this all the time of the hey this just got accepted and this guy got hurt and it's like Because you now have, because you didn't prevent it, you have created a terrible problem where someone's going to feel like they got hosed. Yep. No, it's completely true. All right, that was today's mailbag. Watch every game every Sunday with NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV. Visit YouTube.com slash fantasy footballers, local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games. Base plan required, excludes digital-only games, commercial use excluded, no refunds.

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That'll do it for today's episode of the podcast. Thank you for following the show, supporting the show, leaving those wonderful reviews. I forgot to mention it at the top. We are giving away a signed James Cook jersey right now. A bit of a listener appreciation giveaway. You can go over to footclan giveaway.com, enter for free, and we'll give away a signed James Cook jersey coming fresh off of his 216-yard performance. And tomorrow we'll get into starts of the week, more matchups, Halloween show on Friday, and the Wheel of Shame, which is awesome. I love the Wheel of Shame. It's so fun. We'll catch you then. Thank you for tuning in. Enjoy the day. Goodbye. For listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.