Fantasy Football 2017 - Top 10 Wide Receivers + Preseason Hype

Still Eddie Lacey, but I agree that this is, it's not shaping up to be a delight by any stretch. Do you read anything into the fact that in New England, Dionne Lewis and James White were listed as the starting running back, Rex Burkhead and Brandon Bolden with the second team, and Mike Gillisley, who's dealing with a hamstring injury, currently listed with the threes. Yeah, it sounds like his hamstring injury. Okay. He's been off the field, which that should be the concern. Look, slight concern. Absolutely. It's, yeah, I'd be much.

happier if they just came out and said oh yep mike gillisley he's the starter day one but it's it's the hoodie he works in mysterious ways and so i'm not going to jump off the mike gillisly ship just yet all right almost into wide receiver rankings here the brown starting quarterback is quote brock osweilers to lose according to the esb and brown's reporter pat is manning what is brock will start

Look, the... Trust the process. Yeah, well, the preseason is going to be the process. So I don't read too much into that. If Brock performs in the preseason, he'll be the starter. If he doesn't, then they'll move on to someone else. So Chris Ballard told NFL networks, told the NFL network that it's still to be determined if luck will be ready for week one. The GM of the cult is Chris Ballard. He came out and said, Pup is not an option for luck. So those of you that were worried about Pup, that's been thrown away. It's gone. Luck will not be on the Pup. Still could miss week one.

Don't know. We'll see. We're waiting. We'll wait and find out. We still have a month. A month. Yeah. Okay. This is from the Cincinnati Inquirer. Yeah. Jeremy Hill, out of the Cincinnati Enquirer this morning, reports of him. The belief is that he'll start all season unless he's hurt or absolutely terrible. What constitutes terrible? Terrible? Terrible. Ben Jarvis Green Ellis was terrible. But I didn't stop Martin Lewis. No, that's a good point.

Same situation here as you have in Seattle. Same situation. You've got... Well, it's a little different. You've got big boy goal line. You've got more, maybe more spry, more athletic, and then you've got third down guy in Joe Bernard. Now, Joe Mixing can do it all. Yeah, that's why it's different. Yeah, and that makes sense, as opposed to like Rawls who can't necessarily do that. Mixing can do it all, but they're not going to use him in access for no reason. Right. So he either has to be otherworldly compared to Hill.

or he'll have to be hurt to have the kind of first year Joe Mixon where the ADP was going relevance. Mixon is still right now going, you know, at the back of the third round. And that is, that's too high. You better be confident. You could grab him at the back of the third and he could explode and take over and become the next levy on Bell because he's got the talent. But the probability of him being any kind of bellcout is getting slimmer and slimmer.

close to none right now. And so I'm moving Mixing down in my rankings, and that's coming from someone who, you know, completely believes in his talent. There's just, there's, there's less opportunity for touches right now in that offense. And, you know, that's a prerequisite for scoring fantasy points. And we talked a little bit about this yesterday with the Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixing discussion at the end of the running back ranking show. So I agree completely. All right, guys, let's talk wide receivers.

Wide Receivers. Mike and I both wore the white T-shirts today. This is very bright on the screen. It's a classic look. Is there just white white? Yep. Is it just plain old white? A crisp, lean shirt. I look like a, what's this? I look like a heart throb from the 1950s. Oh, yeah. Well, you're going to Travolta? You're going to roll out of grease. Hey. Roll up a pack of smokes in your sleeve. Tell me more. Tell me.

Okay. All right. I'll tell you more about Antonio Brown. Oh, like a professional. Antonio Brown's our number one consensus wide receiver. We're going through the top 10 whiteouts today. If you missed the last couple episodes, definitely tune into the running back shows. I mean, what do you say about Antonio Brown? I mean, do we just move on? We need to spend a lot of time discussing Antonio Brown. I would say this. This is the one thing. No, no, be very analytical, Jason. Yes. Don't be unequivocate.

Do not be anecdotal. To dive deep here. It is worth. It is worth. It is worth noting that Antonio Brown's consistency over the last few years and his output has been at a level that is not just saying, oh, he's got a chance to finish as the one or he'll be top three. We agree with those things. But we do need to realize there is a huge gap on your fantasy team when it comes to how he scores his points, which is.

you know, just every single week, you know, hurting your team less than anyone else, where the value of him compared to, say, a Mike Evans, it's a wide gap. And so people that want to trade up or maybe people don't, you know, someone in your league doesn't believe in Antonio Brown, go get him. That's pretty much all you guys. The only thing about Antonio Brown is it's,

It almost feels like it's gotten to the point now where it's like it's like boring to own him. It's like LeBron James getting the MVP in the NBA. You just can't give it to him every year because you're like someone else has got to do it. No, it's still going to be Antonio Brown. All right. Our consensus number two wide receiver, Julio Jones. Julio Jones. Julio. Last year is that he's a wide receiver one or two, 64% of the time. He had that otherworldly.

crazy game against Carolina with 300 plus yards. What do you need to say about Julio? I mean, like we said, we want to, there would be some big discussions, but there's not a lot with Julio other than the injury discussion. Yeah, that's it. You know with Julio Jones. Not supposed to play in preseason week one, by that. That he has a tendency to get nicked up. Not necessarily missing time, which he has done that before, but that was he had to get the foot surgery. But he frequently looks banged up. He's the wide receiver.

equivalent of LaShawn McCoy where at least once a game, you're going to see. He's limping off. You're going to see him limping. You're going to panic. But he'll be okay. He'll play through it. But you also know that he's going to give you a couple dud games. I have him at two. You guys both have him at three. And I want to tell you why I like him more than Odell Beckham Jr. Sure. It's a good argument between those two guys. Yeah. And for me, it just came down to the offense. I think the offense, I like it more.

Now, the dependency on O'Dell Beckham Jr. with Eli, that's great. So if you pick O'Dell, that's cool. I like the offense and the opportunity for Julio, and I just believe that maybe, maybe they'll use him more in the red zone like they're promising to do. And the nice thing with Julio's. Every year they promise. Yeah, the nice thing with Julio is they don't need to use him in the red zone more for him to be.

the number one wide receiver even. So if the total points for the Falcons drops, as I expect it to, I don't think that is going to hurt Julio. Julio's been great, you know, the last four, five years with the Falcons not being otherworldly like they were last year. All right, number three, O'Dell Beckham Jr. You guys actually have him, you guys both have him at two. And the thing about these, I have him at four. These three wide receivers, I think that Antonio Brown is clearly the number one, but.

They're called the big three for a reason because if you want to take Odo Beckham as the first wide receiver off the board, okay. I mean, I don't think that's, I don't think it's a crazy jump. No, and you shouldn't feel that way. If that's the guy that you want, take them. Over 1,300 yards and 10 touchdowns, each of his first three seasons. So, so far, you know what you're getting with O'Dell Beckham Jr., and that is otherworldly production and the ability to have those monstrous games that can win you a week.

Yeah, and he's still so young. I feel like there is a chance with O'Dell that we still, in fact, I would say it's likely that we haven't even seen his best yet. That's possible. And so if that's the case, you know, we could be looking back in a few years thinking that he's, you know, a Ladanian Tomlinson type. If he keeps us up because his 16 game average pace over the three years is averaging 13 touchdowns a year. I mean, that's.

ludicrous. But what's, so we haven't met to, so I'll ask this question to you, Jason, because a lot of people, uh, have concerns with Beckham because, well, oh, Brandon Marshall is, is here. They drafted Evan Ingram who profiles. Both are goal line. Yeah, as a goal line threat. Do you, you still feel confident in Beckham despite those additions to the offense? Yeah, because whatever it takes away from Beckham, right? Some, some of the targets aren't going to go his way. His,

market share of targets in that offense will be smaller this year than it was last year. But the overall offense will be better. More first downs picked up. More total points going on the board. So I think it will wash itself out and he will be absolutely fine. The total volume will go up while his efficiency might go down. Before we move on to wide receiver number four.

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Yeah, I do. Okay. And I don't think it's outlandish. Look, you put me in a keeper. It's a little hot. It's hot, but I mean, I agree. It's not outlandish when you really look at it. Why not have the player who's on the better offense who's scored more fantasy points?

last year. I mean, I don't think that's outlandish. But that was the first time he's ever done that, right? Not exactly. Number three in 2011, number 12 and 2013, number three in 2014. And then number one last year, based on your scoring format, one or two, only 1,200 plus yards and 14 touchdowns, 152 targets from a guy named Aaron Rogers.

It checks all the boxes for me. So I think the only reason that anybody doesn't want him is because he's done it for a while. I think he's a little bit older. It's concerned with age. He was banged up and missed 2015. But look, I think he belongs there. If you want Odell, that's cool. I'll take Jordy. The thing about Jordy Nelson, if you watched him play last year.

He was getting saved by touchdowns at the beginning of the year. He was only averaging 53 yards the first seven games. After that, though, Jordan Nelson returned to form. He was averaging almost 100 yards per game. Well, let's remind people, return to form. You're saying that because he missed the previous. So starting the year slower on yardage, maybe to be expected if you're getting back into form. Certainly. So I would take.

Beckham over Jordy Nelson, but if you grab our ultimate draft kit, you will see that we have Jordy Nelson. In fact, in that tier number one with those guys, because I believe so passionately about Jordan Nelson, and so does Andy. He's the wide receiver one. He's a guy that has overall number wide receiver one value that slips to the back of the first or the early second round, unlike.

the other three we've already talked about. Yeah, I am of the three of us. I would be... You're the most skeptical. Yes, I'm the most skeptical of knowing that he has the same, you know, season at age 32 that he, you know, was able to do at 31. And the reality is when you go back and look over the last decade, players that had great seasons at age 31, you have a mixed bag, right? And they're all great.

You know, Brandon Marshall, that was his 2015 year. He was amazing. 2016, you blame the quarterback, right? That was. We didn't even talk about Fitzpatrick sneaking into that hard knocks. I did see that, yeah. You know, last year, Jordy Nelson, you had Terrell Owens, another, you know, Hall of Fame, should be Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver who had a great age 31 season, age 32.