Week 13 Waivers & QB Streamers + JTT Troubles, Crazy Like a Fox! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/28

On today's show, it is waiver time. We have six teams on by. There are a lot of players that you need to take a look at. Who should you add? Who should you drop? As well as defenses that we're picking up and stashing. Make sure you subscribe to this channel right now and enjoy. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, Tuesday edition of the show, NFL news, waiver wire, quarterback streamers on today's episode and some chitter chatter about all sorts of stuff. I intentionally didn't say Monday night football recap. I am, I'm just really dragging. I'm really tired today. So trying to wake up with the music, it comes to the point, and I'm like,

Oh, what day is it? Is it football time? And I'm like, okay, no, it's not. And then I remembered the game that I watched last night. Which also wasn't football time. Which, what? I mean, the string of tweets of people saying, is, is this the worst game of all time? And I would laugh because I have, before I read people's tweets, I'm like, this is the worst game I've ever seen. It was real bad. We all watched it and it was terrible. Yeah, I mean, the winning team did not have a touchdown. That's the fact that that's that happened. It was, uh, the pumpkining of Joshua Dobbs. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Which, um, clock struck midnight on Dobbs. Yeah. And it has for every team he's ever, every team he's played on. They've got to stop teaching him the playbook. He does so well.

When he first comes in, has no idea what the playbook is or the names of his teammates. And then as soon as he like, you know, gets plugged into the offense, it's like, ah, it doesn't work. And now they're talking about making a change at quarterback, whether it's Mullins or going back to the rookie. Yeah, that was bad. We've had a lot of bad island game football this year. And it went, it did seem like it kind of went faster last night. Uh, not for me. Not for you. Not for me because I did watch it in its entirety. Um, I am the one of the three people in America that did stick around for the whole game. Um, I, I think as bad as Joshua Dobbs pumpkining, Justin Fields, I, I don't know exactly how much to blame him because the play calls were clear designed, you know, they're coming out of the huddle and they are running a screen.

Every play. Yeah, but they won't see it coming this time. I can't. Did you see the numbers? There were four completions total between both teams beyond the line of scrimmage. Four. I have never seen any kind of game with that many passes sideways or backwards. I can't wrap my head around how it's not good football. It's not good football. It's not good offense. It's not good. Play calling, not good play design. I don't care what you saw about the Vikings defense that's like, oh, I think we can beat him with this play. You can't just run an offense where you did. And they won. And they won. Well, four interceptions for Josh Dobbs. Yeah. Didn't help matters. Four interceptions. One of the most ridiculous Jordan Addison plays I've ever seen. And I rewatched that clip because you did the drop.

No, I'm talking about the sideline. The sideline run out of bounds. He had more separation from the defender than I've ever seen. There was no one around him. And I watched it because at first I thought that Dobbs let him out of bounds and that was the problem. Which Dobbs clearly could have thrown a better football. But it was all Jordan Addison. Like I watched it slow-mo and like Addison on the sideline instead of making the sideline catch turns his body backwards to backpedle a ball with no awareness of the sideline. That would have been a touchdown. He mingoed? Yeah, Jonathan Mingo did that this week too. I mean, it was tough to watch. It was 12 to 10. I mean, that tells you everything you need to know. Let me ask you this as sort of a quick question of the day before we get into everything. Justin Fields has played 35 games as a starting quarterback, which is, that's a lot. Is he going to be the quarterback of the Chicago Bears when...

Snap one happens at the end at the beginning of next season. No chance. You cannot roll into the third try here. You did this already. You traded that pick for a haul. You got a better team. And honestly, you look at the Bears and the Bears' defense is playing better. They traded for sweat. They're looking like a decent team, but they're still barely winning games or losing games. I don't believe that you can pass up. You're going to have the number one pick with Caleb Williams on the board. I don't believe that Justin Fields will stay a bear. Mike, what do you think? You know, Caleb Williams, Drake may have had poor senior seasons. You know, the quarterback options, I don't think, like when I look at it compared to Kyler, the Cardinals are going to have a top three pick too. I think the Cardinals should stay with Kyler. I don't think you're getting better at the quarterback position in the draft.

I think that Fields had to really, like he had to play well every single game for the remainder of the season because it's been too hot, too cold when you open the season the way that he did. Like if he had played fantastic for that whole opening stretch, then got hurt, things would be different. But going into year three, not 100% sure. Year four. That'll be year four? Correct. This is year three of you? This is already a year three. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, when Jason said third time, I'm like, it's a fourth time. Okay. Then it's an easy decision. Well, you're resetting the money, too. Yeah. Like, because you're going to have to make the Daniel Jones decision on Justin Fields in a year, right? Mm-hmm. That would be the number one reason to move on, but. I do want to see if Fields moves on him to go to a team that wants to use his skill set.

Because he can throw the ball downfield decently well. He can run, obviously, as good as anybody in the league. Screen passes. Oh, baby. He just, he can't. Pocket awareness has been a problem. And it's, there's, there is a processing, an information processing, which people were talking about at the beginning of when he would be in the pocket and actually have a ton of time looking down the field. It's how can you be like? four seconds into this situation and nobody's open? I mean, maybe. I didn't break down the all-22. I mean, there's, I mean, maybe last night they weren't, but previous games this season, there were lots of open guys down the field that seam route by Herbert a while back that he just didn't even see him. It's hard to play quarterback. There's a reason we have like 10 guys that can do it. Yeah, so it's unfortunate, but I lean that that's what happened. Both lean that way. So for Dynasty, you're kind of,

You're kind of feeling very uncomfortable. Yeah, you're feeling uncomfortable with Justin Fields, the security of his future. I do think he will get a job, be traded, have a team that says, yeah, we can work with Fields next year, but I don't think it'll be the Bears fantasy takeaway last night. My biggest takeaway was Roshan Johnson. Yes. Very, very involved. Ran ahead of Khalil Herbert was involved in both the receiving game and the running game. Looked good. I have been. a non-believer in Roshan's ability to break into a fantasy relevant role this season with, you know, Deont Foreman and Khalil Herbert ahead of him. But he was basically the start of this game. I think there's no reason for them not to give him a go. And he looks good. Yeah, I mean, with a head of steam, Roshan's pretty powerful back. Yeah. DJ Moore keeps performing with Justin Fields. I mean, that's the other story. 11 for 11.14.

on 13 targets. So that was good. Hawkins had gotten to the end zone to save your day. Addison, it was disappointing. 10 targets turning into 6 for 39. The Josh Dobbs experience was not good there. The play calling for Minnesota was so confusing to me. I thought Madison was running pretty well. Like there was at least a couple just like burst runs where you're like, do Madison has some juice giving the ball. But then they would run these stretches to the outside. That's not Madison's game. And then Ty Chandler, they'd put him up the middle. You're like, no, he's small and fast. Send him to the outside. And then they let Dobbs throw the ball 32 times when it was very, very clear early on that Dobbs should throw maybe 18 times in this game. Yeah, it was not a good football game. Let's move to brighter things. Oh, yeah.

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News and notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. Two-thirds of Deucer's Alley have betrayed me in a trade. Brooks. We need you to step it up. Get that betrayal hat on. Darn, the deadline passed. Yeah, the deadline's over. All right, here we go. Rashid, unlikely to play this week. I was asking Mike in the studio yesterday. Like, there's a chance that the Saints have no one. I mean, like Michael Thomas is on IR. Chris Oliva has a concussion. I don't think he plays. And then, which, I mean, our Scotty Fish team is toast. Oh, yeah. We made it through to the next level of the playoffs. We've been great all year. We have a lot of bi-weeks. I mean, no Josh Yellen. I mean, this week, the bi-week story and the waiver show today, like, that is a big part of the fantasy season narrative because the league decided we're going to throw a wrench onto all your rosters and make you scramble with six very...

I would say fantasy relevant teams on by this week. But Rashid Shaheed's hurt. Yeah. Michael Thomas, Chris Oliva, Rashid Shaheed out. I don't know what the line is on Alvin Kamara receptions. Oh, that could save me this week. But as soon as it comes out, you probably want to go over on that. Yeah. And, you know, the other options they have just to throw it out there, deep leagues, Lynn Bowden Jr. A.T. Perry. And A.T. Perry. And I lean the Bowden side. And Juan. And Juan Johnson, who also got banged up, but is okay? He's okay, yeah. And take some hill. Sure. Flexible. They need a receiving option. Baker Mayfield's ankle MRI came back negative. He plays Carolina. I expect him to play. Yeah, should be good. But if you want to follow along at home, if he doesn't, this guy over here is starting Tim Boyle at quarterback in our Dynasty League. Because Josh Allen's on a buy and Baker was my backup. Is Kyle Trask not available?

He probably is. I shouldn't have brought this up. I could have went and looked. That would have been a much better solution. I don't think you need to worry. Let me take a little. I'm sure Trask is rostered by Jason. That's my bet, is that Kyle Trask. Look, he is rostered. Not by Jason? Not by Jason. You have a trader for? Brooks. Brooks has like 800 quarterbacks on his roster. It's Troy. All right. Amari Cooper's rib. X-rays were negative, so we'll see if he's back out there. Mari Cooper has some. small amounts of hope attached to someone else playing quarterback named Joe Flacco. Yeah. Small amounts. I think that's a pretty heaping amount of hope. Like if Flacco plays, if Flacco plays, I think Amari Cooper has a good game. It's just does Flacco have anything left? He has a statue with both feet inside of cement. He didn't have anything left when he was playing for the Jets. And it was great with Garrett Wilson.

Yeah, yes. That was fun. Because he threw the ball like 40 times a game. Just saying like these guys, if he was willing to be a backup, maybe he saw this as the only, he's like, well, I can actually be a starter if I go here. But he didn't have another backup job. Joe Flackos, he played three games, like the first three games of last year. His past attempts are comedic. 59. Yeah. 44, 52. Nice. He managed. And this may be a record. 3.4 fantasy points on 52 pass attempts. Wow. Yeah. So you want to revise your statement? Three fumbles, two interceptions in the same game. Yeah, add 10 points to his line right there. I'll bet Gary Wilson was fine in that game. I'm curious now. What week was that? That was week three. But, yeah, I mean, 285 passing yards and negative 10 on turnovers. Kenneth Walker, DMP.

Cool. Seattle plays on Thursday again? Yep. Is it just permanent? Is that the Seattle rule? T. Higgins could play this week, Mike. No. Zach Taylor says, I think so. No. The problem is you've got Jake Browning at quarterback. He won't. I don't know if you guys, Jeremy, I don't know if, do you remember the staff, but I quoted it on Sunday live from Joe Goodberry, who's a Bengals guy locked in on Twitter, good follow. And it was T. Higgins has appeared. I think the number was 68% of the possible snaps that he could have appeared in. 66.8. Any change of opinion. We talked about Austin Echler and the way this season has transpired and what ends up happening in free agency. You know, T. Higgins is much younger. T. Higgins obviously has shown his potential.

He won't on the football field. Go get it deeper. Is there a better chance he goes back to Cincinnati because of the way this season is gone? I don't think so. The free agent market for wide receivers is the exact opposite of what it is for running backs. Teams are clamoring to get a wide receiver and there's not enough out there. So I think he probably gets a big bag from someone even if he sits out the rest of the season. Also as an update, week three, Garrett Wilson last year with Joe Flacco. Yeah. Ten targets. Okay. Six for 60.

So I would take that for Cooper. That's what I was going to say. Mari Cooper had six for 60. We'd be like, okay. The rib injury is concerning, though, because Cooper is, he's a downfield guy. He's a jump and make a contested catch guy. I'd be a little nervous if we don't hear. Like, it's probably pretty good odds. It's PJ Walker this week. So we'll keep an eye on it. We'll let you know. One more, Dallas got it. We'll push to play this weekend against the 49ers. Don't push too hard on that arm. I won't be pushing to put them into my lineup. This is wild. Fractured forearm. Never went on IR. Possible to play this week. I think you have to take a wait and see approach. I mean, that's got to be a little fracture, right? Like a little fracture. If it's a fracture, it's either healed or it's not, right? I mean, healed enough, maybe. And then you can wear a brace or something. What a cast? Is it going to be under a full cast? That would be awesome.

Just forearm. Forearming guys. It's like when the guys have the big ball over their hand. I don't know, man. I've never hurt my forearm like that. Not a doctor. No. So we'll ask Dr. Friends. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. Welcome to the waiver wire. Presented by Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3. The Bears with Justin Fields and DJ Moore, the Bills with all of their weapons, the Giants, Sequin Barclay, the Raiders, Jacobs and Adams, the Ravens with Zayflowers and Lamar Jackson and the Vikings. No Justin Jefferson, return, no Addison, no Madison. And so we get to do the dance. I get it. You don't care about our fantasy teams. You should care at least a little bit.

We help pay your bills. We do better than this. Do better. This is ridiculous. You should care about our fantasy teams. Yeah. And you should care because we are. You like those big checks that you get to. Yeah. The oversized checks we write you. I feel like I've seen a lot of commercials of like. Yes. AWS is running trillions of combinations to get to schedule perfect. It's like, I don't think you want to advertise that. It's been nonstop bad. bad scheduling not like the buy weeks are a mess yeah their algorithms somebody snuck in a like screen pass only part of the algorithm they need a couple more tries bezos loaded up with teams with none of these players so we're look we want to help you we want to help you get those this is this is a spot start situation we are moving

pretty much well past the kind of like stash and hope they develop situation. There is spot start waiver pickups and then there are like, you know, insurance backs that you can add to your roster to protect yourself from injury. But when you look at spot start opportunities, the lowest rostered player anywhere near the top of our waiver rankings, which you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. We've got our waiver wire rankings every single week. But by far the lowest rostered with the highest opportunity this week seems to be the Jeff Wilson Jr. situation in Miami. He's the number one pickup to me, and he's not a lock to be great because you could still have Devon A. Chan come back this week. If Devon A. Chan comes back, Jeff Wilson probably might not even be active for the game. Or, yeah, he's on a biweek. You certainly can't play him even if he's active if Defon A. Chan is.

As of right now, though, Jeff Wilson's my number one waiver pickup of the week. People need running back starts. There are not other good options. I think there are two other options that you could pick up off the waiver wire and start this week. Jeff Wilson against the Washington Manders got enough run last week, looked good, looked healthy. I think that he could have a very, very good fantasy week, and he's available most everywhere. Keaton Mitchell. was 9 for 64 on the ground, two targets. He is on the buy. Right. He can't be a spot start. You know, he would be a player that you stashed, like maybe someone drops him because they have to. Or maybe he's out there. He's 61% rostered. And then you were going into next week and you've got Brian Robinson on by or James Connor on by. We want to throw that on the radar because maybe you don't need a spot start this year. Maybe you're the one lucky human on the earth. If I don't need.

Jeff, who again comes with a tremendous amount of risk. If I don't need that, I'm going to, I am picking up Keaton Mitchell. Not that I expect humongous things, but he's at least trending up. Since week nine, his snap count has gone up every single week, up to 46% this past weekend in week 12. So he, and he's the type of player that over the, you know, over the fancy playoffs. He could take over. Like it is in the range of outcomes. You can't guarantee you, but it's possible. So he, assuming you don't need to pick up Jeff and start him, I'm picking up Keaton Mitchell. The only other two players to me at running back that are pick up and play spot starts would be Ezekiel Elliott and Somaget P. Ryan. Yep. Both of these guys are backups on their respective team, but they are getting enough work.

And they have looked good enough recently, and their matchups are not the worst. Now, I will say Zeke plays against the Chargers. The Chargers recently, their run defense has looked much improved the last couple of weeks, whereas Somaget is playing against the Houston Texans, who is a very decent matchup? Which one of those two guys? If you're out there in a pinch, need the running back, and it's just Zeke or Samajé, who are you picking up? It would be Zeke for me as well. Like Samajay scored. last week but he was down to what 27% of the snaps and he scored because javanti was currently missing the game well he i mean he came off the field because he had a neck injury yeah for that snap and then he came back in and

So, Zika is. I think Chuba, if he's somehow out there, would be in, in that same category for me. Oh, man, that's really tough. I know he got a rushing touchdown, but I believe that on the course of the year, the Carolina Panthers have three total rushing touchdowns, including the two from last week. I'm just more interested in the receiving work. Yeah, 19 opportunities. Like, to me, he has the odds of catching the same amount of passes as P-Rine, but get more groundwork. Such a weird thing, too, with the change at Yep. Head coach, you just don't know, like, is tuba going to be more involved, less involved? That's why he's worth the dart throw to me just because it's tough, man. You start Somaget Pirine. I think your floor is lower with Pirine than it is with Hubbard. I agree. But obviously the Broncos, they're six and five now. Yeah, they're hot. And they're playing well. Aren't they? I think they've won the most games in a row of anybody in the NFL right now.

Well, they started one in five. They've won their last five games. Yeah. Yeah. And probably Sean Payton is really exhaling with how this season is turned around. Including Buffalo and Kansas City? I mean, crazy. So they're second in the division then, right? Because the charges are below them and then the Raiders are below them. Right? I mean, there has to be the case. So they're currently second in the division with a better with a better record than the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills are. in the 10th seed in the AFC right now. Crazy. What a world. So would you drop Damien Pierce for any of those guys? No. I don't think so. I mean, I think he fits in the same category of spot start as those guys. I agree completely. Maybe. I'd drop Herbert, Khalil Herbert. Yeah, I'm okay doing that. I might drop Pierce for Keith Mitchell, assuming I don't need Damien Pierce this week. No, I could see that. That's fair. That makes sense. If you're not looking for a spot start, yes.

82% of snaps for Singletary last week. There's still a lot to watch because Pierce was just coming back from his ankle injury. Was that what it was? Yeah, it was. It was. But before he got hurt, Singletary was already kind of starting to take the over-the-time share. So again, that's a number that you have to pay attention to a watch, but it was still very positive for Singletary. Even though the output wasn't what you were hoping for, he was still getting the work. Before we move on to wide receivers, I do have a, I have a surprise question for you. And it's putting you on the spot. I don't know if you'll have a name that just jumps out immediately, but I'll give you some time to think about it while I answer it myself. I've seen the question to say, you know, who's your best pick that you made this past year? And, you know, some players you believed in, and you took higher in the draft and they worked out. But then I've seen who's your, who is the worst pick you made?

And for me, like in our actual drafts? Well, in our drafts or like any draft that you've done. Like who is the worst pick? And to me, my answer was Damien Pierce. Like I bought into the way the preseason looked and you combine that with inefficiency at the top of the year with the O line and then the injury. Like Damien Pierce is by far the worst pick that I've made. The one that has hurt me the most because I picked him everywhere was Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup was like if he was a player where I was at times in the offseason willing to take him with the number one spot. I usually wouldn't. But it could be the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh pick. Sometimes he'd fall. And he's never getting past me around pick five in the off season. I had him in so many best ball drafts. And obviously a lot of it's been injury, but he's also had disappointing games out there. He's crushed me. Do you have a worst pick candidate, Mike?

maybe Waller just because of the way that like it was basically a lost season yeah it was like it was pretty good then it was terrible but you kept playing him and then it was trending up and then it got hurt so it was yeah it's really it's a lost season for Waller all right quick break back with the whiteouts I'm not sure you needed us to say it but there are some like insurance backs Elijah Mitchell de Ernest Johnson seems to be getting a lot of opportunity behind ETN Rico Dowdle for Tony Pollard and then Zach Moss back into the workflow, you know? So I think before we move on to wide receivers. Oh, because we have some breaking news here. Okay. Colts running back, Jonathan Taylor, fresh off, this is from Rappaport. He suffered an injured thumb that is requiring further evaluation and puts his status in. Is that why we didn't see a lot of him? Put his status.