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Week 7 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Monday Punday

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Getting loose, getting the first down, sliding before people get within four feet of you, playing it smart. Lamar Jackson is built in a way. You know, Kaepernick. It reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick's running days. I think that's a pretty good comp. Yeah, and he just, he's faster than everybody else. He's faster and very, very elusive when he's in the open field. How nice is it that he went to the Ravens, to John Harbaugh, to a...

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to a coaching staff that will completely develop the team around and let him be himself. Because I know there were a lot of rumors of the Chargers were very interested. I don't think that's an organization and a coaching staff that would have tried to make Lamar Jackson something he's not. But it's been a, it is so fun to watch him. But I will say this, from a fantasy football perspective, I still think it's, I like I said, I said to Mike while we were watching games.

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Last night, one of our arch rival in League 1, Adam Rank out there. He's riding high with Lamar Jackson. But I just can't imagine you keep that pace up with his body and you don't get injured at some point. So far so good. Yeah, so far so good. And, you know, I know we debate the fantasy scoring of the rushing quarterback. But man, at least in Lamar Jackson's case.

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what he does on the ground has equated to so many victories over two years. Sure. As soon as he got on this team last year, you won because of his legs. You're winning because he's five and two this year. You're winning because of the legs. I'm fine with it. Josh Allen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Tannahill, Tanahill with the big game, 312. You know, you can start to glance the direction. Oh, Tana Hill against Tampa Bay. Absolutely.

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But the wide receivers, Corey Davis is a guy that- That's what I mean. You can look at. And I think AJ Brown, I mean, it'll be between those two guys, which one scores on a weekly basis. Yeah, the target, he was looking, you know, and obviously from game to game, it might be different. But it appeared he was looking first to, to Cory Davis. He's a guy that I have never rostered, never owned. And now I think on waivers tomorrow, we're going to be talking about picking them out. Interesting enough. Yes.

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Chase, running backs, let's go. Chase Edmonds, Latavius Murray, Zeke, Dalvin Cook doing his thing. And then Austin Echler. Hey! Austin Echler had five carries. It didn't matter. Seven for 118 and one through the air on eight targets. He's on pace as a receiver for 112 catches, 1,1, 115 yards, and nine touchdowns, 121 targets. That was put in there by editor Kyle. I take a small issue.

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with the pace argument because of all the missing games and certainly, you know, 15 targets and 14 catches a couple weeks ago. But clearly Austin Eckler is going to be a feature part of this offense. He better be because another thing that Jason and I were talking about watching this game of the Chargers, Melvin Gordon looks objectively bad. He does not look special right now. He costs them.

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the game twice at the end. He needed to move the ball a foot, a single foot, and he ends up fumbling twice, essentially. One wasn't called the fumble, but he fumbled on the goal line twice. When you get him the ball, he's not making anything happen. Meanwhile, Austin Echler is just, he is completely electric and helping this offense. Melvin Gorman right now. Would you sell him?

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Gordon? Yeah, he scored a touchdown in this game on a passing touchdown. So would you sell him on the basis of that touchdown? Yeah, if you can get a good price for Melvin Gordon, if you can sell him as a running back one, as a high-end running back one, I would. I don't know if you can do that. Thankfully, he did get the touchdown. This is why I was saying two weeks ago, right when he came back. He's got a big name. I know. Sure, but so here's the guys that, like, man, I was going to say Aaron Jones, but I bet the Aaron Jones.

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owner would would not sell him for melvin gordon maybe josh jacobs i don't know the problem if you're going to sell way melvin gordon you have to get some kind of running back yeah back maybe it's no you're bringing these names up and there's no way those deals happen which means that maybe you're right maybe you're stuck with him because i think you are if someone needs wide receiver help right and and and you could you could take uh you know your melvin gordon and

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and Marvin Jones. Oh, my goodness. You know, he's on your bed. You could take those two guys to try to get Nick Chub or something like that. I mean, I get what you're saying. It makes sense. Try. Yes, try. Try. But we say it's not going to happen. But a lot of times we throw those out and we say it's not going to happen. Then we get like 100 tweets being like, oh my gosh, look what I got. All right. Chase Edmonds against New Orleans next week in San Francisco, two very difficult matchups. This is his third straight week with a touchdown and at least.

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13 fantasy points. Are you starting him? I think so. Yeah. Even in those bad matchups, they're rough, but the Arizona Cardinals offense has produced. They've been producing for the running back the whole season. He's been great. So, yeah, I'm going to still stay with him. Latavius had a great game against Chicago, wore their defense down, really did nothing at all in the first half. Everything was in the second half.

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I will save all my Chicago Bears discussions for a more appropriately named segments. Excellent. Otherwise, Aaron Jones got the passing touchdown. That was nice to see. Derek Henry had his first touchdown outside of the one out of his last eight in this game. 22 for 90 and 1 for Tennessee. It's better for Derek Henry if this offense can move the football through the air. 100%. He can have more one-yard touchdown. Leonard Fournett, who by the way,

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Since week two leads the NFL in rushing yards. Had a big game. 29 carries. I mean, that's why. If he gets 25 plus carries every single game, he's as safe as it comes. All right, Marvin Jones. Hey, how are you doing? 10 for 93 and 4 on 13 targets. When he had the breakout game as a bengal. 2013, by the way. When that happened? Yeah. Was it a 4 touchdown game? It was. Okay. He is the only other than...

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Jerry Rice and Sterling Sharp. They're the only wide receivers to do it twice. So, uh, congratulations. Insane. Four touchdowns for Marvin Jones. In fact, I believe he was matched up against Xavier Rhodes. And Rhodes had given up something like, that's like he's given up three other touchdowns in the last couple of years. And he gave up four to Marvin Jones. So I might have that stat slightly wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was the majority of Xavier Rhodes touchdowns given up came in this game over the last few years. Zach Pascal.

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6 for 102 and 2 on 7 targets. The question fantasy owners will want to know, and we'll talk about it on the waiver show, is do you really buy into it, or is it more of a flash in the pan? I think it's more of a flash in the pan because the rotation of pass catchers one week it's Ebron, Doyle, Pascal. You know, this game, I said it before, they stacked the boxing as Marlon Mac. They made Brissette beat you. The recipe for beating...

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teams in the future for Indianapolis, it's going to be on the ground. So you could get, you could get stuck here, is my, my take. You could get his line from the Kansas City game, which Kansas City generally juicy for your quarterback and wide receiver. Generally juicy. And that was one for eight. One reception eight yards. And one was a, wasn't one of these a shuffle pass?

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of Pascal this week? Yeah, I had to laugh, man, because you have these tap past touchdowns that are like one inch, and then you had the Deshawn Watson touchdown this week. Did you see that one where he ran and he threw it to, like he threw it a nice 10 yards to Kiki QT and it's a rush. Yeah, I hate, it's just so funny. I've said it forever. Because it's behind the line of scrimmage. I wish it was based on distance of ball travel. You can take over. Yeah, Jason wants it really difficult. That's the, that's the issue. And I know it can't happen because it's subjectivity. Forward.

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Backward. Sure. Easy. I agree. That's true. But yes, you know that these quarterbacks are that played in the 80s are looking at this going, wait a man. I could have padded my stats. Coach, how did you not figure out that we could be doing this? Troy Aikman tap passes to Emmett Smith for five touchdowns against. Stefan Dig, seven for 142 on eight targets. He dropped the touchdown in this game. He's certainly a player you have to throw out there the way that.

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Diggs is playing, no dealing. Hopkins, nine for 106 and 1. There he is. It's almost like he's a really good receiver. Almost. By the way, the wide receiver 10 on the season. You're almost looking at Hopkins so far the way that you looked at David Johnson last year. You know, wide receiver 10, that's not what you wanted. Right. Now, speaking of a player. But no Will Fuller. Who perhaps, maybe this guy is just good. The rest of the team, yeah, we're going to talk about him in a different section, but Alan Robinson.

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keeps getting it done 16 targets this week. 10 for 87 with a touchdown. He, his lowest production of the year, week two, four for 41. Alan Robinson is a must start. He's a must start. And I'm like, I was nervous to play Alan Robinson in this matchup. I was nervous against seeing him line up against Marshawn Lattimore. But Alan Robinson is, dude, to me, he's back. They can't, they can't run the football.

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The Bears can't run the football. And when I say they can't run the football, I mean, they literally cannot run the football an inch. They can't do it. You say can't. I say don't. Yeah. Well, it's become a little bit of both. Yeah, certainly both. But Alan Robbins. You're saying because they passed it 54 times and rushed it seven times, Jason? Yeah. Is that why? I think it's because they didn't even have 10 rushing attempts. That's.

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You choose that number. That's, that's a, that's a coach's choice. But they're, when they have committed to it, they've been extremely inefficient. Jordan Howard ran circles around what this, this rushing offense is doing right now. Matt Nagy is, he's lost. He's lost. We're not there yet. I know. I see, I knew I wanted, I knew I wanted to talk about it. All right. We got to talk, we got to move on. Darren Waller. My goodness. Go, good.

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Eric Ebron with top five catch of the year. Touchdown. Yes. One-hander. That was awesome. Four for 70 and one. Again, he is a very... You can roll him out there. You are hoping for a touchdown, and you're hoping you spun the wheel and you landed on a passing game for Indianapolis. Kyle Rudolph, like I said, five for 58 and one. This is... He's going to be relevant. With Adam Thieling gone? With Adam Thiel and gone. I really believe so. However, Washington on Thursday, you know,

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Do they delve and cook that entire game away? I don't know. Possibly. He's a streamable tight end. Hunter Henry, 6 for 97. He's legitimately, uh, he's a must start tight end at this point. Then Jimmy Graham, four for 65 and one. When you watch the game, I feel like Jimmy Graham's super involved. And then I go to the stat line and he's always got like three or four catches at the most. I don't know what happens. What do you make of Gerald Everett flashing back onto the scene? He had.

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the down week two weeks ago, but that was San Francisco, four for 50 with a touchdown, 10 targets, gets to play the Bengals. Does it count as on fire if you skip a week, Mike? Because he was hot, hot off. No, I'm not saying he's on fire. But for like, Gerald Everett certainly hit some waiver wires. Would you play Everett or O.J. Howard in this upcoming week? I would play Gerald Everett. Yeah, I would as well. I mean, I know O.J. Howard's running routes, but.

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he's not getting the ball. So I'll go with the guy who's actually getting it done. Mike, you start, you have Dallas got it as you started the week. I did. And he delivered four for 69 and a touchdown. And he's a gray sports almanac situation. It was just reading the, like try to read the tea leaves of him being used. You combined the off season. I know it's coach speak, but they were saying we're going to go two tight end sets. Then he got hurt. So, so you feel like, well, then it's never going to happen. But.

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He just, he got hurt. Now he's back. His snaps were increasing. His targets were increasing. I want to know why Jason's never been behind this guy. It took, it took me to finally let people know who Dallas Goddard is. Thank you. What a weird week. You're starting the break up. Starting Jared Goff. Starting Dallas Goddard. Those are great. We got a couple, right? Great plays. All right. You guys ready to move on? Yes. Stinkers of the week. Presented by odor eaters. There were plenty of stinkers this week.

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Between the weather, the low-scoring affairs, and then the unsuspecting players breaking out. And the Chase Edmonds? Yeah, Chase Edmonds, Marvin Jones. These are guys that were, I mean, Twitter is a vicious place for sob stories. I mean, you need to vent, right? That's what happens. You either vent or you bottle it up deep inside. Just put that cap on. Don't worry, this will be fine. This is where I'm living right now, fellas.

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So Matt Ryan, Kyler Murray, Jimmy G, Carson Wins, Stinkers at the quarterback position. And then I was surprised Russell Wilson didn't have a better game at home against Baltimore in a game script that he needed to be throwing the football. Didn't get a lot of help outside of, you know, Tyler Lockett.

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