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What Would You Do? + Pump the Brakes, Krampus Love

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His numbers are certainly inflated by scoring four touchdowns, five touchdowns in the past four weeks. I would just hold onto him right now. If you weathered the storm and didn't sell him when everything looked like it was absolutely terrible, things look slightly less terrible now, and he gets to play Denver, we're going to preview that game, San Francisco, and then after the by week, the Kansas City Chiefs.

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So I think it's very possible that in the next three weeks that David Johnson gives you perfectly acceptable fantasy numbers. They're not what you drafted him to be, but I'm going to just hold him for now. I'm not trading him. Jason, you were retweeting the Marvel that is the Arizona offense. It's unfathomable. I mean, it's truly.

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It's really honestly something that I couldn't even wrap my head around. It seems impossible. Someone had done the research and found that the Arizona Cardinals are 28th in total rushing attempts. You know, near dead last in the league. They're just not enough plays to have good rushing numbers. But they are first in the league in rushes straight up the middle. Just, hey, let's just give it to this guy and go right ahead of the rookie center.

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and see what we can get. I want a yard. I want maybe two. We joked about this to each other frequently of all they're going to give it to David Johnson run up the middle. And it was always right. I didn't realize it was that atrocious. It's embarrassing. It is. Hashtag fire Mike McCoy. Again. Yeah, he was fired in season last year. Yeah, that's why we wanted him. He had extra prep time. Ridiculous. All right, Jason, what do you do right now?

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with the Enigma. That is Odell Beckham. Oh, you changed it on. I did change it on you. Look, Beckham was drafted 12 overall as the wide receiver 3. Right now he's wide receiver 19 in points per game. Has Atlanta, Washington and a by week coming up. The story for Beckin this year has been, you know, you're not getting what you hoped because his average depth of target is so atrocious and gross and hard to look at. Fourth most targets, though, in the league. Fourth.

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Most receptions in the league, what are you doing with Odell Beckham Jr.? Here's what I'm not doing. Asking for a friend. I'm not selling Odell Beckham. I am holding Odell Beckham. I am 100% fine with, you know, look, we feel like this has been very, very, just an abysmal year so far for Odell Beckham Jr. He is currently...

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on pace for 120 receptions and 1,349 yards. And we're like, oh, he's so bad because he's had a couple of duds. No touch, really no touch. Yeah, right. He's on a pace for three touchdowns. And that's not been Odell Beckham, the offense. It's a very similar situation to David Johnson, right? He's limited by his offense, by his...

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quarterback right now but when you are near the league lead in targets and you are a freak of a player right we talk there's two things that matter talent and opportunity well he's got the opportunity and he's got the talent so you have to hold on to him you have to play him more often than not he's going to be serviceable every now and then he's going to give you a boom

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And every now and then he's going to give you a bust. And that's okay. He's not an outright bust the way that people are feeling about him. That's why for a couple weeks I was saying trade for him. Yeah, do you trade for him ahead of this Atlanta matchup on Monday? I mean, look, if you need a week, I would be really surprised if the Atlanta Falcons defense can contain Odell Beckham. And the Odell Beckham owners are willing to sell him right now. So it's worth a try.

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But you can't buy him as a top three wide receiver because we know with his limited offense, he's not. But he is a wide receiver one. So if that's what you need and you can buy him for that value, then I'm fine with that. Odo Beckham, the argument we're having, or the discussion we're having about Odo Beckham is generally the one we have about Julio Jones every single year. Receptions are there. Yardage is there. He's still supporting your fantasy team.

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been unlike Odell where the touchdowns are simply not coming. The touchdowns are everything to me, but I don't know if those are going to start raining down. I think they will this week. He'll get at least one this week, but for the length of the season, he's got to adjust your expectations, which is he's a low-end wide receiver one. And that's really the overarching question I want answered here with these players, is how are you adjusting expectations? Because there are two ways you can do it.

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You can say the player is underwhelming and will then meet expectations over the remainder of the season, right? Like a hitter that is a great hitter and just starts with a couple slumpy months and then you get the best hitter in baseball for the next four months. Or... What? Oh, baseball references. Unbelievable. Or... Yeah, I apologize, Jason. I know that hurts you. Or they are something else. Or they are actually something else that need to be treated that way.

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And that's why I'm going to bring up Keenan Allen's name to you, Mike, because Keenan Allen right now is the wide receiver 29 in points per game. He was drafted 17 overall as the wide receiver 6. And it's kind of, it's just, I would firmly put him in the disappointing category. Yes. Because Philip Rivers is right now, he's an MVP candidate. He's in the top five. And he's on pace for probably 40 touchdowns. Keenan has what, one? One touchdown?

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It's not been good. So, and Jason, you own him. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I own David Johnson and Keenan Allen. Yeah, Mike. This is great. Oh, hey, you know who else I own? Devons Freeman? We talked about him too. And none of us disagree with Keenan Allen's, like, ability and talent, but it's always been volume-based and it's always been being Philip Rivers' main man. So are you adjusting your expectations rest of the season for Keenan Allen, Mike? This, to me,

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was my slight hesitance for Keenan Allen's draft value coming into the season because this is who Keenan Allen is. This is who he was last year. The first half of the season, he was just solid. He was fine for your fantasy team. Everyone remembers the second half of the year when he won leagues for people because he absolutely caught fire. He can do that. That's in the realm of outcomes for Keenan Allen is to,

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Just all of a sudden take over the offense and be a league winner. Buying or selling? I'm still willing to buy him. So I'm not selling him if he's on my team because I know what he could do. It seems very unlikely. I get it. It's always, it's always, it's always darkest right before the sun rises. So just hold on. Yeah, I mean, look, when we talked about Keenan,

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and we tried to not have rose-colored glasses. We would look at last year the first half of last season, he was on pace for 80 receptions, 1,000 yards, and two touchdowns. Those are, that's okay. That's a wide receiver too. We saw it. Yeah, solid. The second half he was on pace for 124, 1,600 yards and 10 touchdowns, which is the wide receiver 1. Right. And we said it's probably going to be somewhere in between, right? Yes. Well, right now on the season, he's on pace for 96.

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1157 yards and three touchdowns. So I think the targets are there. The yardage is going to stay the same. But I do expect his touchdown volume to go up over the second half of the season. As do I. So I guess if you would have to, if he's not a hold, if you have to say buy or sell, I would still be buying because unlike.

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David Johnson and Odell Beckham. This is an offense that is clicking. This is an offense that just hasn't really needed him necessarily yet. Long bombs to Tyrell Williams. Melvin Gordon is stealing all the TDs. Oh, you remember that rookie season when Melvin Gordon had zero touchdowns? Yeah. Head coach Mike McCoy. The NFL is great, man. Just get a job once. That's how it feels. And also, when you get that job, make sure that your quarterback is

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is destined for the Hall of Fame. Because then you just ride it out for a 10-year career. When you get that job, you go shake everybody's hand in the world. You become best friends with everybody. You send little flowers and cookies and candies to everybody in the NFL. That's a nice guy there. He won a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning. Disgusting. Then everybody thinks nicely of you and you can write it for about 30 years. Come on. NFL, you're better than this. I think. Yeah.

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Some of them are. I mean, some of them are. It was funny. I was thinking, like, just imagining Sean McVeigh as the head coach of the Packers. Oh, my goodness. The foresight and wherewithal you'd have to have had to drop McCarthy, who's been pretty well renowned in the past. Of riding on Aaron Rogers back? Yes, which is painful. Yes.

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But essentially, and then to have the foresight to bring in a McVeigh or a Shanahan, right? Somebody that's doing something. Could the Arizona Cardinals trade an entire draft class for Sean McVeigh? I don't think they would do it. Jason. Oh. Yes. Oh, you're. I think waivers just went through. And Mike's, you outbid me by a freaking dollar. Yes, I did it. Perfect.

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And I bumped it up three times during this show. $1. Oh, Ido Smith just went for $40. My bid was $39 and stupid Jason got him for $40. Really? Yeah. I started at 30. I went to 33. I went to 35. Went to 40. Messaged Brooks, my co-owner. Should I bump him up to a kiddle? He's like, no, I think we're good. A kiddle's a $44 bid. $44 bid.

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That is so upsetting. All right. Well, that's a lot more than I thought he was going to go for. I bid $15 on him. Well, you only have $29. This is true. I think people might find it interesting. Here's who are the highest spins. Edo Smith was the number one pickup. Taylor Gabriel actually went as the second highest. Germain Curse went as the third highest. He was kind of my favorite pickup if you need a flex start right away before Edo Smith's news with Devanta Freeman.

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It looks like Mike grabbed Rahim Mostert. Oh, I was the only one in on him. No, you were not. I had a $2 higher bid, but I had grabbed Eto, so I did not get him. Yeah, I bid on him as well, but nothing. And then Frank Gore? He is everything. He is infinite. And if something else that you know of is infinite and all, he is Gore. And then it was defenses and stuff. So Christian Kirk, I picked him up. There you go.

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All right. What would you do, Mike? And Jason with a freaking dollar, man. Yeah. That feels bad. How's that feel? It feels real good. Feels bad, man. Feels real bad. Yeah. You had. Hey, Mike, you must be pretty disappointed. You have no idea. I like that listeners get the.

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Very tangible emotional insight here. Did you guys catch the giant Matthew Barry rant yesterday? Oh, I did. I mean, this is speaking to my season. That was unbelievable. Unbelievable. He needed one point. One point. From Morris? From Alfred Morris. And he's in a league where they give a point for first downs. So he actually got the point. But then it was called back. Oh, with the holding call. Before the holding. Because he hadn't gained 10 yards, but he got the first down. So he would have won. And then he said it was the worst loss in 30 years.

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Yeah, that's rough. Fantasy football. All right, what? What would you do right now with T.Y. Hilton? Because I don't know if people know what to do with T.Y. Hilton is a must buy. Absolutely. Must own, must keep, mustache must buy 100%. Because you can find, it's hard to hold on to a Leonard Fournett sometimes because there's just not a.

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There's not a replacement. Sometimes you have to trade them if you're losing games. But you can grab a germane curse and get by for a week off of waivers or something like that. When T.Y. Hilton comes back with what's happening with the Colts defense and offense, T.Y. Hilton is just going to be dominant. He's going to take everything away from Eric Ebronn. Okay. They're the same player. They physically skill-wise. The past three weeks, Andrew Luck is averaging 33 completions.

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376 passing yards and nearly four touchdowns. T.Y. Hilton. And they're losing. If you can get T.Y. Hilton right now, I would absolutely do it. Yeah, all right. How do you feel about Rob Gronkowski, Mike? You've been his biggest advocate right now. He's the tight-in six, which is fine, but it's not why you spent up on Gronk. You spent up for... The number one. Mondo points. Now, this offense...

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