Well, we weren't sure, you know, is he going to play? Is Hyde going to be the starter? And then he got injured at one point through the game. And then, of course, Carlos Hyde was out. He did not play. So, you know, they both cropped up on the injury report. Turns out that Carlos Hides was legit because he couldn't play football. So this is another one of those. I think you could sell high here on Chris Carson. That's a monstrous game. He is banged up.
Week 4 Studs & Stinkers + Picture-in-Picture - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/5
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135 passagesI think I would, yeah, because this is a game where Carlos Hyde was gone. He had to be the every down guy here, but he himself is banged up. My point is I think you can get a lot for him, and I don't think he's going to always be playing without Carlos Hyde. Mike, Chris Carson, Joe makes the rest of the season. Chris Carson. Latavius Murray had a couple of touchdowns, 14 opportunities on the ground. They had a big lead, and Latavius was all right.
in this one. I think he's just there to annoy fantasy players. Yeah, I'm not reading into it. How are we burying this guy? Antonio. Gibson, Mike. How to feel to see Antonio Gibson? Well, it was very bittersweet because I wanted to bench Antonio Gibson. And my advice from the week was to bench Antonio Gibson. And here's where it was difficult. Because during my process of Antonio Gibson was, what is his ceiling? 40.
40-something rushing yards and a touchdown. And they haven't unleashed him in the passing game. That is exactly what I said about him. Where is he? 46 and a touchdown. But they finally gave him five targets. He came through with a huge receiving play. And I don't know if that's that if you, I don't know if you can count on that every single week because it. Stephen Sims was out. Yeah. So, but I mean, as as one who has loved Antonio Gibson since the draft.
It was pretty awesome to see it. Seven total targets before this week had five in this week alone against Baltimore. You are going to run into unpredictability with Antonio Gibson because the offense is inefficient. The quarterback position, you could see change over the course of the year. But Gibson himself is a very talented player. So you can always take a shot with him as a start and end up no matter what the matchup is with a big game.
Did you know that Dwayne Haskins had over 300 yards and a 70 plus percent completion percentage? Stats are for losers, Mike. Oh, I have been told that. According to Bougar McFarland, stats are for losers. It is. He should have led with the Dwayne Haskins stat on his stats are for losers' tweet because that one seems ridiculous. Yeah. It just, everyone plays four quarters and those soft underneath coverages. Mike Davis.
is very good. Apparently. He genuinely looks good. No, I'm saying he is. This was a guy who was on Chicago, had the starting job, and then they drafted David Montgomery, and then they just cast him aside, just like they did with Jordan Howard. And now Mike Davis is like the most elusive running back in football. He is absolutely.
crushing with his opportunity right now, those who paid up to get him off the waiver wire are celebrating. Again, he did play Arizona, but the week prior he looked good, and I think he's going to have another great week. That being said, you picked him up off the waivers. Did you need him? In which case, great. You're happy. Keep starting him. Did you just snag him because the value was there, and you've got other good running backs?
Go to the Christian McCaffrey owner and try to sell him for a season-long piece because you've got about another week left. Once Christian McCaffrey comes back, Mike Davis is nothing but an insurance option. They're not going to be like, well, now that you've played well, let's go 50-50 split with our most expensive running back of all time. Christian McCaffrey is going to inherit this role. I was going to ask you that question if you thought there would be an easing back-in period for Christian McCaffrey off the injury. There will be a little bit. Yeah, I mean a little bit. You're going to see four or five,
more touches for Mike Davis than you would have beforehand. But, you know, once Christian McCaffrey is back, it's his game. You're not going to even have the potential to start Mike Davis again unless a re-injury. So my point is if you've got him and you can capitalize turn him into something that will be more than just another week or two, you can't. I'm a Christian McCaffrey manager that if in our league someone came to me offering Mike Davis, I would take a strong look at going,
Okay, I might give up a legit piece that could help someone rest of season for Mike Davis. It is a situation where if you do have CMC and Mike Davis, you know you have a start. Exactly. All right. Kareem Hunt, 11 for 71 and two touchdowns. Chubb knocked out of the game. Hunt was questionable going into the game. Looked good. Ran for another seven a carry because he's Kareem Hunt. Is Hunt locked in as a top 10 running back if Chub is out?
Yes. I mean, you can almost argue he's a top 10 running back with Chubb in. He's had a great start at the year. Yeah, without him, you hunt is as good as it gets out there. Jerich McKinnon, nice to see him succeed, eight targets, seven catches, 14 for 54 and a touchdown on the ground. I believe McKinnon has scored in every game. Has he? So far in 2020. So the return of Jerich McKinnon is a two-year.
effort by him to get back it is just it you are correct he has scored in every single game and it's like this is an unbelievable feel good story so cool of like your boy strong he yeah he apparently is yeah man it feels it really does feel like i'm happy for the man because that that kind of two year struggle he was he was gonna be a my guy that year and then poof got injured and never we i don't think either of any of us thought
we'd see him again. Well, it'd probably be, if Moster comes back next week, it'll be Moster and McKinnon against Miami. Agreed. And both are probably start worthy in that game. I wonder if once Coleman comes back, is it still? I think Coleman's buried. That's what I'm wondering. Is he behind McKinnon now? All right, wide receivers. We've got some players to talk about. OBJ, eight targets, five for 81, two touchdowns through the air.
Two for 73 and a touchdown on the ground. Saw somebody tweet about the fact that Beckham scored three times at a monster game and Baker didn't even play well. Because he ran one in, caught one from Jarvis Landry who threw a dart. Yeah, it's because stats are from nerds, bro. Boomer Asiason out there. A boomer reference? Hey, it's the only lefty. I mean, you can go, Mark Brunella, boomer. What do you want to do? Matt Liner, come on. Yeah. If a Southpaw is throwing the ball into the end zone, it's going to get a boomer reference. Fair enough. Which is different than Booker.
Let me be clear. Yes. Right. Very different. I would have gone, Vic. That's a strong point. That's a strong point. That was really, really. Matt Leinert, that's how deep we're going here. I went back. I went back a little bit. You did. All right. All right. Do you sell high on Odell Beckham? Well, you asked me that two weeks ago. Right. And you said no. Yeah. So I still say no. The reason being, this is a great offense right now.
This is an offense that Kevin Stefansky has worked into something that works, which is not what we expected to see in Cleveland. So will Beckham be a high volume player for your team? Absolutely not. Never. Will he be a player that can win you a week every two or three weeks and still give you some type of floor? I think so. I think this year that's the truth. Yeah, very, very high variance player this year. Yeah, I agree. I happen to think that the next two weeks will be on the low.
variance of variety, two of the most difficult matchups out there in the Indianapolis Colts and the Pittsburgh Steelers. But, you know, he is, he looks like himself. Like we were talking, this was early in the game before he just blew up while we were watching. He looks good. He looks like his old cell. The most important play of the game for Beckham was the two-yard slant touchdown. And the fact that they drew up a goal line opportunity for Beckham, got him in ISO, and then.
threw him the ball. That was a problem last year. Um, Omari Cooper, 16 targets. He's been amazing. I mean, it's funny because sometimes we're watching these games. We feel like, ah, he's kind of disappearing. He's, you know, whatever. But 14 targets, nine targets, 12 targets, 16 targets. I got the breakdown for you through four weeks if you want it. Let's go. Dak through four weeks, 1690 yards.
Gallup is 275 of them. That's only 16%. Cooper has 401 of them. That's 24%. Lamb is at 309. That's 18%. Target-wise, Cooper's at 51. Lamb at 29. Gallup at 24. When you are in perpetual catch-up slash... From the first minute of the game. We just annoyed... If you're saying DAC is the number one guy, that...
Because of the defense, like, Omari Cooper is the number one benefactor from this. He's currently on pace for 148 receptions. So that won't happen. But it's, I mean, what more can you ask for? What did Thomas catch last year? What was the, what's the record? I will look that up. Do you remember that, Brooks? The total? I can't remember the exact number. I can't remember either. Okay.
All right. CD Lamb, seven targets, five for 79 and two. You will not be skipping over my man, DJ Chark. And his nine targets, eight for 95 and deuce. Welcome back, DJ. Yeah, that's great to see. Have a game. Also, the record was 149 receptions. Yeah, so he won't break it. Yeah, only one for you. But DJ Chark, great to see the target totals, honestly. I mean, the touchdowns, because of his size.
You know, we had seen it a couple of times to start the year. But the nine targets coming down with eight of them, Houston, Detroit. This is DJ T-J-Tark time. Yes. It's Chark Week. Yeah. Tark Weeks, maybe. C.D. Lamb. C. D. Lamb. Michael Gallop rest of season. C.D. Lamb. C. C.D. Lamb. He's a really good player, man. Yeah. Look, I loved Michael Gallup coming into draft season. I still think Michael Gallup has a fine season.
But if I have to pick one of those two guys, C.D. Lamb, you know, there's a reason that one of these guys was a first round pick and super highly touted, questionable if he should be the number one wide receiver taken in the draft. That wasn't Gallup when he was coming out. And usually it takes a little bit more time. The timeline is over. C.D. Lamb is in. It's just where they get in the ball. I mean, Michael Gallup is his like yards per catch is over 20. I mean, he's having the higher.
risk throws where Lamb is down in the 14 range, getting the slant route, getting to run with it. You just have more variable. Gallup's going to have good games, like you said. It's just going to be hard to predict. All right. Other big plays at the wide receiver position. Will Fuller, seven targets, six catches, 108 and one. I'm going to take credit. I've decided. You never pivoted? I didn't pivot. No, look, he's healthy.
And when he's healthy, he's gotten double digits three games while he's been healthy. Six, four, one, eight, and one. Meanwhile, Brandon Cooks, he ran 40 routes according to what I read and was not.
Yeah, he's able to... Is he on Wednesday's retirement ceremony? He is. That goose is at the very back of that flying V. You know what I mean? Yes. I mean, he could... He's the extra goose on the one side of the V that you don't need. Right. But theoretically, he could move to the front if the hamstring... What's the voice of the hamstring? Oh, it was... Hello! Oh! Big hamstring bloat! He was... The hamstring was okay. Yeah.
Mike Evans is pretty good. Seven for one, 22, and one while limping around the field, which he pretty much might as well just start doing. Maybe if you, can you hurt yourself if you pre-limp? If you limp before? I mean, if you walk with an unnecessary limp, yes. That's what I'm saying. Maybe that's not a good way to, uh, to break it down. Oh my goodness. Breaking news. Nick Chub has been placed on the IR with an MCL injury.
So that's three games minimum for Nick Chubb. So Kareem Hunt. Oh, brother. Oh, brother. Yeah. Oh, brother. Oh. Okay. Alan Robinson. Ten targets, seven for 101 and one. It was entirely... Oh, the garbage land can. Let me say two things. One, it was entirely garbage time. Two, Nick Foles is just as bad as Mr. Risky.
Three, Alan Robinson deserves better on every level. Every catch he made was a catch that I feel like him and Kane and Allen are, you know, a handful of players in the league are the only ones they can make the catch because these Nick Foll's targets were disgusting. Oh, he massed a dude that didn't count because it was going to be an interception, but he just went up and caught it behind him out of the end zone. But yeah, I mean, the thing is is,
