Week 4 Studs & Stinkers + Picture-in-Picture - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/5

MRI today for Echler. Mike, you described it yesterday. He could not even get on the cart. Yeah, so he finished off to play like an absolute mannimal. I mean, he was hopping through on one leg until they brought him down. He was down for a very long time. You could see in his face that this was not good. He gets trainers and people to help get him off the field, has to take a break.

while walking off the field, then the cart shows up, and he can't even get up onto the cart. That's how much pain he was in with his hamstring. So, I mean, just optically looking at the man, and, you know, not a doctor, but Austin Echler is going to miss a lot of time. The Packers' wide receivers tonight, Marquess, Scantling, Tyler, Irvin, Darius Shepherd, Malik Taylor. Yep, sounds about right. So those are, I'm bringing the names up because if you have to...

Do that last second grab. Yeah, MVS is probably not available. Shepard would be my next dart throw simply because he got a target last week. Step one. And like Robert Tonyon, he was at least five for 50 with a score last week. I think there's a very large chance. Obviously, this doesn't help for waivers, but we saw this with, you know, when Michael Thomas and some of the injuries.

happened to the Saints. It was all Camara in the dump. Oh, yeah, it's Aaron Jones, but we're saying for people out there who are just scrambling to figure something out. All right. O.J. Howard tore his Achilles out for the season, according to Bruce Ariens. So down to Cameron Brayette, Rob Grankowski. Five touchdown passes for Tom Brady yesterday. To five different players. One was Kishon Vaughn.

The one was O.J. Howard. Yeah. And that was a nice one, too. It was great. It was nice. It looks good. Noah Fant. The reports are that he will be sidelined for week five. That was a weird injury because he didn't seem like he was in pain, but he was being carted off. But then they said it was minor. And now he's going to miss another week. And he came back at one point. And then now he's gone for another week. If you'd like to trade for Rob Grankowski, Jason, that is, that offer is available to you. That is not interesting.

Also, for the record, I would not like the Ross of Robbrenkowski, if not for the fact that I... Trade from the waiver wire? No, I have him because of the Kelsey situation. All right, Kenyon Drake injured late, Kingsbury said, hopefully not anything major. We talked about it. Tyler Eifford of concussion. Any other big news? Brooks, anything new coming through? Not yet. The coming through is, what are you eating back there? You're just like... Nivenson. Granola? It's just bad timing.

No news. It's probably the worst. Just trying to get over from that Cowboys game yesterday. The worst moment of Brooks's life just happened. Nice one. Yeah, the Cowboys. My goodness. There's wild stuff, man. Wild West. Start your players against the Cowboys. That's what you've got to do. Also, start the Cowboys, all of them, apparently. As many wide receivers as they have play them. All right. Before we get to the stud muffins, I want to think today's sponsors.

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41, 458 for 502 yards, four touchdowns. And they almost did it again. They were, what was it, 41 to 14? Yes, and it went down to 4138 before the Beckham play. Unbelievable, man. Cowboy games were so fun right now. Probably not for cowboy fans, but for football fans, they're very fun. He has 1,600 plus yards through four games. That is the record. What is his pace?

Oh, that's a good question. I mean, I think it's $6,500 somewhere around there. I think it was $6,700 was what I saw. Yeah. That is amazing. Nobody has ever thrown for 5,500 yards in the history of the NFL. He's on pace for 6,700 yards. I mean, Dak is, is he the, let me ask the question. Do you want him as your fantasy quarterback over everybody else? And I mean that for this rest of the year. Based on, look, the recipe.

For a banner year, it always comes down to, it's the quarterback play, but it's also the defense. And this defense is atrocious. And I know that we have that same recipe for Russ, but we also have a history of Russ being a little bit more up and down than DAC. We also have a history of Seattle figuring out their defense. They've got a great coach. I don't think Seattle's defense is going to stay.

terrible the rest of the way. The same way I don't think Minnesota's defense is going to stay terrible the rest of the way. When you've got a really good defensive-minded head coach who can rally his troops and get things together, I don't know about them cowboys. That feels like the number one guy moving forward. It's incredible. Tom Brady without some of his major weapons in this game, 346, 369 and 5. Oh, man.

The plant man comes out and drops a five touchdown game. The chloroform was flowing. He is the oldest player to throw five touchdowns in a game. He's the oldest player to do everything. Yeah. Anytime he does something that is like pretty good, it's like, hey, it's the oldest guy to ever do that. Is it? Am I right that they have the Thursday night game? Yes. Against Chicago? Yes. Okay. So we'll see what he does on Thursday night short week. Tom Brady, big.

big week against the Chargers who held Patrick Mahomes in check, but could not hold Tom Brady in check. Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, man. Got to play the Cardinals without Buda Baker, and it was not pretty for Arizona. It was surprising a little bit, just how bad the Cardinals defense was. Did they make them punt? I think they made them punt once. I think they scored touchdowns in their first, you know.

Four possessions. Now, next, that being said, it can't all go on Arizona. Carolina, like you said earlier, they're surprising. They look like a pretty decent offense. And this has been without Christian McCaffrey. That's been the key. Right. They're two and oh without McCaffrey. That's right. You know, so next week they play in Atlanta. I think you can keep rolling in the heat of the of the Panthers. The problem is.

It's Robbie Anderson, not DJ Moore. Yeah, that part does suck and hurts my feelings. But we highlighted last week of the regression's coming for Teddy Bridgewater of how he has all these yards, but he just didn't have the passing touchdowns and add in a sensational 20 yard or whatever it was rushing touchdown. Teddy Bridgewater is a very strong streamer next week. All right, the stallion. Josh Allen keeps it going. Excellent.

He had another rushing touchdown, a couple passing touchdowns. Yeah, when you said you feel like DAC is the number one guy, I feel like Josh Allen should, you know, at least be entering the ring. He can be in the ring. I think there's, you know, five guys who are all vying for that number one spot here. Josh Allen has been great. Kyler, even when he's sucking, is still good because he runs the ball, scores rushing touchdowns. Obviously, Russell's there. And then how can you?

discount Mahomes and Lamar. So you've got some real, real heavy hitters at the top of the quarterback position right now. Lamar, bounce back, 7 for 53 in a touchdown, big run in this game. A couple passing touchdowns to Mark Andrews. Justin Herbert, a really impressive performance against Tampa Bay's defense, 2425, 29, and 3. A lot of people played, you know, Jared Gough this week as a substitute quarterback. Yeah, I'm guilty.

I don't blame you. The matchup was great, but Justin Herbert put up a big performance and the arm talent is what impresses me on a weekly basis with Justin Herbert. Man, when he throws a deep ball, it is a pretty looking deep ball. Yeah. And there was a wild stat that I had heard. All of his touchdowns went to undrafted free agents. Wow. So I mean, he's getting it done. And like, I mean, I guess we're ahead of ourselves here, but.

We didn't really talk. If Austin Echler is out, holy crap, Keenan Allen is going to see so many targets. He already is, but it's like where do the missing targets go? They go to Keenan Allen. All right. Joe Mixing. Have a game. Have a game, Joe. Have a game where you receive 25 rushing attempts, 151 and 2. And then six targets, caught all six passes.

all of the fab that was spent on Gio Bernard before the game will be donated to a charity of Joe Mixon's choice. That's true. But this was the number one running back on the week. It absolutely was. Baltimore, Indianapolis, Cleveland. That's what's coming up for Joe Mixon. I think I know where Andy stands because you are the captain of the Joe Mixon train. Jason, would you be trading Joe Mixon right now?

I would certainly be seeing if I can capitalize on a monstrous game and have a... Every league has that one player who just is so recency biased on the last week that you could trade him like he's the best running back in all of fantasy football. But I do think what this shows is that these players who are getting a ton of volume and disappointing, because it's easy to think about this today, but yesterday morning, people were...

more worried about Joe Mixon than they worry about Kenyon Drake. And then all of a sudden one great game cures everything. You hold on, you don't look to unload. But if you can capitalize on the hope of, you know, his ceiling, then if he hits, you're fine. And if he misses your, you're happy you traded him high. I think you hit on a key point for fantasy players. Don't exchange the volume that Mixon is getting for anomalous lower volume players.

multi-player trades where you're not getting it's hard to get guaranteed volume and when you have 31 touches he was already in the top five in terms of total touches heading into the week which is why jason made the argument about things looking up because when you have opportunity great players who just got paid they generally have great they make great place at some point in time so baltimore indianapolis those are two really tough matchups

So it's not going to be this good every week, but it's nice to see it happen. Delvin Cook, 27 for 130 and 2. He's very good. Yeah. Melvin Gordon, we talked about it Thursday night, took it to 1,000 with a couple touchdowns. Yes, he did. This game was impressive. Chris Carson, 16 for 80, two touchdowns against Miami in a game that was kind of lower scoring. He really was a difference maker, and we didn't know how he was feeling coming into the game.