Forgotten Players + GRONK'S Smashing Career

But what about is there room for Chris Thompson as well in that offense? I do think so. I mean, I don't think Darius Geis or Adrian Peterson are out there to be the past catching back. I think that's what Chris Thompson is. They, you know, I think it's a, you know, this is an example, Mike, of the one-two punch, right? Like whether it's Geis or AP and then you bring in Thompson, you know, as the past catcher. That's the, you know. What's going on in Washington?

It's a good question. It's three different surgeries, right? You have, because Colt McCoy, who had what seemed like a simple injury, he's having another surgery. Alex Smith had complications from surgery, and Darius had complications from surgery. Well, they're, they can never field an offensive line because they always go down to injury. Yeah, they're, something's happening in D.C. You are right that it does.

I don't have the numbers, so I can't scientifically say if they're getting hurt more. It just, it certainly feels like they do. I'm a scientist. I can say that. They are getting hurt more. Oh, thank you, Dr. Moore. Thank you. You are welcome. Devanta Freeman, Jay, Jha, Ronald Jones. Three more forgotten players heading into the new year. We've talked a little bit about. How dare you read them in a role like that? Well, how would you want them read, Mike? Devonta Freeman.

Stop. You don't want him lumped in with a Jai and Ronald Jones. That is correct. Well, now you've gotten the opportunity to pull him out and to talk about him independently. Mike, this is one of your picks from the overreaction episode. I feel like I have professed my love for Devante Freeman, so I will yield my time to Dr. Moore.

to talk about Devonja Freeman, see if his take agrees with me. Can Dr. Moore yield his time to Matthew Betts and actual doctor? Sure. Let's hear from the actual physical therapist and see what his take is. He thinks that the knee injuries are likely to recur. No! He sees playing 16 games is very unlikely. The team needs to utilize Edo Smith, much like Kevin Coleman.

Spell Freeman. He sprained his MCL. I have just spotted a problem with Matthew Betz's argument. Uh-huh. You can't use Edo Smith like Tevin Coleman. You can't? No. Why is that? Because he's Edo Smith. And Tevin Coleman is better. I don't know. I stand by it. Okay. Thanks, Mike. You own Devante Freeman. Not a doctor. Now, here's the reality that this is why I actually like.

Freeman quite a bit. Obviously, every single running back out there, I don't care if you have an injury history or don't, you have an injury risk every single one. They just take too much damage. So if we take that away a little bit and we say, okay, he's had the time to recover, he's going to come back, should be completely healthy to start the season. Sure, like every running back, there's a chance of re-injury. But he's the starting running back on a really good offense with a financial...

situation where they owe him still quite a bit of money. He is clearly their main guy. Edo Smith is the backup and they'll probably draft someone else. They need a third back after Tevin Coleman left. But I think I always take situation over talent and that would include, you know, injury risk here. The situation says Devonthe Freeman is going to be a great value. Rush's receptions, touchdowns, yards, all decreasing.

three consecutive years for Devante Freeman before last year. Yeah, the decrease doesn't scare me away from Devonta Freeman because he was it. Like when he was the number one guy, it's because he stayed healthy and he was the only running back in existence in Atlanta. Tevin Coleman could not stay on the field that year. So that doesn't concern me that they're going down. The opportunity is too good.

for Devante Freeman for me to pass on him. Third round pick right now around Philip Lindsay and Aaron Jones. I would take Freeman over both those guys. Can I, can we talk about J.J.I. and Ronald Jones now? Yes, now that they are in their own category. J.J.I. still has no home. Should we care about where he lands? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's, he's the type of back that might have to wait until after the NFL draft, see what's happened, maybe wait for an injury. But he is young. They said he's still talking with the Eagles, too.

Interesting. Yeah, no, I mean, if I had to grab one of these guys now for this upcoming season, I would grab Jay Ajai, who does not have a team. Between him and Ronald Jones. Between him and Ronald Jones. Now, am I just too far on my Rojo hate blockers? Yes. Thinking he's not good? Would either of you rather have Ronald Jones over Jay Ajai? Jay Ajai has a degenerative knee.

and he's coming off of an ACL tear in the other knee. And does not have a team. And does not have a team. I'm so that could be an example of you over emphasizing 23 carries of Rojo's career. I am on the side of very concerned for Ronald Jones turning into a massive NFL bust, but I'm going to take him over Jay Adjai. Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to take him over Jay Jai. Yeah. Thank you.

Mr. Reasonable. I mean, let's talk about J. Jai is probably going to, I mean, they said he was talking with Indianapolis, right? If you put him in Indianapolis with that backfield or you put him in Philadelphia again, I'd probably take him over Ronald Jones. You put him on a team, and I will take him over Ronald Jones. Because I, because. Do you agree with that, Brooks? Who would you rather have? Oh, wait. You have a Jaya in your dynasty league. Yeah, but I'd.

I accept the realities of a Jai. If you could trade Ajai straight up right now for Ronald Jones, would you do it in a dynasty? Ooh, in a Dynasty League, would you do that? Yeah, I probably would. Take the chance. I would trade Ronald Jones for Jail Ronald Jones real quick. Yeah. All right. You guys are crazy. That's a really good point. If I can steal Ronald Jones for what he deserves to be, which is nothing, and then give him to Brooks for Jai Jai, I'm on it. You're gone for the rest of the show.

All right. Forgotten quarterbacks. Jimmy G. Mike, you brought him up earlier already. Can he be a QB1? Yep. Yeah, I think so. Cam Newton, 14 games played, busted shoulder. He can be a quarterback one, I believe, too. Andy Dalton, Alex Smith. Well, look, is Alex Smith forgotten? No, he should be forgotten. I'm sorry. I feel bad for Alex Smith because he's a competent, capable NFL quarterback.

But he had a massive severe injury in week 11, and clearly that team is not planning for him. Yeah, I can't imagine that he ever plays a snap in the NFL again. Whoa, that's extreme. Yeah, I mean. Not this year. I don't think he plays this year. No, I don't think he plays this year. And I think next year they've got to solve their quarterback situation as opposed to having whatever age Alex Smith is coming off of that injury back to be the starter. So you guys hear Jay Gruden has like no say in anything going on there?

Really? I was listening to a lot of, and you take it for what you will. I mean, some people that have knowledge of the situation, we all know Daniel Snyder and the situation with him spending money, you know, the big contract that went out to Collins. Apparently, Jay's got no say and nobody informs him what's going on. He's super frustrated. Very interesting. So I don't think he had any say in case Keenham coming in. Why would you keep him around? I don't know.

He's been a coach for them for a long time, like one of the longer durations for a Washington head coach. It's almost like they have a really bad owner. Well, that much is true. It's funny too. I don't know. It could be. Could be. Cam Newton. You like him? Andy Dalton? Well, yes. I mean, Cam Newton. It's all about the shoulder because that thing was done. I mean, he was a floppy noodle throwing the football towards the end of the season. Can he get that thing right before?

The season starts, I think so, but that's 100% you have to see what's going on with his health. All right, there is an article by Matthew Betts on the site. What's wrong with Cam Newton's shoulder? It goes into more detail. It was filled with aluminum foil. And then Andy Dalton has been a fantasy guy for certain durations of his career. I'm done. I'm done with this. All right, sir. Are we still doing this? We're still going with the hope of Andy Dalton. No, we're not. I'm just bringing him up. Dr. Moore.

Tyler Boyd was good last year. A.J. Green. I'll be honest. No. No, Jason. No. I will. I will be completely honest here. Red rocket. You're getting sucked in. And say that Andy Dalton could very well be, they could draft the quarterback. Andy Dalton could be on the street this year. I wouldn't doubt that.

I think he plays this year. They have enough weapons. They have an offensive-minded coach. We have seen with good coaching. We've seen Andy Dalton be good. I'm not saying Andy Dalton is, you know, a top 10 quarterback in the NFL or is anybody I would want my franchise to be reliant on. But as a streaming option through the year, I think he'll have.

Plenty of successful games. Everyone can be streamed. Sure. But worthy of being drafted with your last pick is my point. Everybody can be streamed. You can stream 40 quarterbacks through the year, plenty of which you won't draft. If I have players on the board that I love in round 10 and 11 and 12, these players are falling to me if I was Mike and I wanted Marvin Jones. He's there in the 12th. I would be like, oh, I'm so happy and I keep waiting on the quarterback and everyone's gone.

You know, look, Andy Dalton is, he's not great, but there are situations here with, you know, the past catching with Tyler Boyd, A.J. Green, Joe Mixen, currently John Ross, with offensive coaching coming into town. Maybe they open it up a bit. All right. We're good to move on to tight ends? Yep. All right. O.J. Howard, 10 games played last year. Delaney Walker, haven't heard that name in a long time. Only played one game.

But he was a very consistent fantasy tight end for many years. Jono Smith, 13 games played, left at the end of the season. Jono Smith was so disappointing. Look, I don't like either of those guys in Tennessee to bounce back because Jonah Smith didn't do anything once Delaney left. Delaney's coming off an ankle fracture and dislocation. They passed the ball almost the least in the NFL.

I am not, I'm very hesitant about them. Tyler Eifert, Mike, you've brought him up as a surprise potentially. Yeah. He's a handsome son of a gun. Well, I just won't. I'll be out on Andy Dalton, but I will be in taking the shot on super late round Tyler Eifert. That's interesting logic that makes no sense. It's weird logic. And if you're in on Tyler Eifert, are you in on Jordan Reed? No. Because Jordan Reed is.

practicing in full and maybe how out there what is the consistency can you combine them into one of his floppy toes Tyler Reed it is wet noodle like how flopping are they I just think these toes are flopping I think you're just don't come a call it don't come a knock when these toes are flopping don't come knocking yeah you have him come a knocking on for Jordan Reed for a while yeah I'm done with Ifer

That's fine. I am perfectly happy. Too much has to go right. Standing on Eifford Island by myself. Yeah, like last year. People did the same thing last year. Look, he got hurt. Oh, yeah. He'll probably get hurt. I get it. Okay. All right. He's probably going to get hurt. You'll draft him? If the tight end landscape moves a certain way in my draft, then yeah, I would be willing to take a shot on him. He is the perfect comp for Andy Dahlm. Everything I just described about.

What would have to happen for me to be okay. Leaving a draft with Andy Dalton is exactly what would have to happen to be like, okay, well, I can take a shot at Tyler. But I would rather have my tight end come out and stink week one than have my quarterback come out and stink one. Stink one? Stink one. No, I don't either. No, I mean, O.J. Howard is by far the best forgotten player to pay attention to.

Because, look, he let all the tight ends in the NFL in yards per reception. He's a absolute beast when it comes to his athleticism and the way that, you know, he could be used. That's what it is. This 100% comes down to player versus scheme. He goes, we just have not seen a what we expect O.J. Howard to be in the NFL, what his draft capital was, what he was turning into this past year.

is not the type of usage that Bruce Ariens uses his tight end for. I mean, he had no one in Arizona, fine. But he had Heath Miller for a very long time when he was the OC in Pittsburgh. And Heath Miller was always the picture of fine. It's fine. 40 something reception. It's fine for my fantasy season to have Heath Miller. I mean, the funny thing about Miller is he had his very best season the year that Bruce Ariens left. I think it, there is concern.