Week 2 Matchups + The RETURN of Fantasy Faceoff - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/13

No, scramble and pick up a first. What are you talking about? Coach. Yeah, that's a little wild. So is McLaren on your bench this week? McLaren is. No. McLaren or I guess this is too easy. Jameson Williams. You're going to go Williams. I would. Yeah. Find me a lower Christian Kirk or Terry McLaren. That's where I would go McLaren. I'm okay going Terry there. His of the weak ones where we remind people try not to freak out. Terry McLaurin. And his usage and it looking like the same Cliff Kingsbury offense that we saw in Arizona that can be very destructive at times for fantasy football because it's uncreative and players just go to one side. And he's a player who he should have a good game. Yeah. He should have a good game against the Giants.

If there is a poor game from Terry this week, I'm going to be really freaked out. There are a lot of wide receivers out there that are started that I would start Terry McLaren over. A list of the players that I would start Terry McLaren over, Jaden Reed with Malik Willis there, Deontay Johnson, Calvin Ridley this week, Ladd McConkey, who I love. I would start Terry McLaren in a really plus match up here. against the Giants over those guys. I'm not going to overreact to one poor week. I think Jayden Daniels can get him the ball. I think Terry McLaurin is a good wide receiver. So I'm not like you said, Mike, if it goes poorly this week, okay, maybe the, you know, the red flag is starting to go a little higher. But no, I think it's okay right now. Devin Singletary last week was, you know, they had a tough week on offense. What do you think this week for Singletary? Would you play him or Brian Robinson?

Brian Robinson, but I do think Singletary is a fine. Yeah, he's a fine play. Fine volume play. Wondale got a bunch of targets last week. Are we, um, I just going to ignore that? I am not personally. I'm willing to ignore it because we've been here before, but I get it because so many came in garbage time. Like when the defense was just letting all the little dink and dunks go. And I don't expect this game to get out of hand. I'm not going to ignore it season long, but I don't want them in this matchup. All right, the Chargers are one or no taking on the O and one Carolina Panthers. The Draft King Sportsbook line is Los Angeles. The Chargers minus five on the road against the Panthers. The overrunners just 39 points. It gives the Panther 17. The Chargers 22. You know, sure about that Deonté play? No. He said to sit beat Deonti. Oh, for Terry. Yeah. For Terry. And I'm with him on that. Deontes's debut was not good.

Not good. I mean, there isn't confidence on the Carolina side. You talk about, like, it's our job to break these matchups down. I don't think we have to look very far on the Carolina side of the ball to break this matchup. I don't think you have to look at that side of the ball. Can we, can we put? I mean, genuinely, I don't, I wouldn't start a single player on that team. I wouldn't start Chuba. I wouldn't start Xavier Ligette. I wouldn't start Deontay. I wouldn't start DeLan. I wouldn't, I mean. No, you were talking 12 team. Yes, yes, 12 team leagues. I wouldn't start any of those guys. The highest drafted players in the Megla Bowl that were dropped after week one in the group of the top five, Deonté was one in the top five. Because having Deonté means you do potentially have to watch the Panthers play football. A funny anecdote, I received a trade offer in League of Record for T. Higgins. It was.

It was, well, I guess it's giving away who the manager is. I would like to hear this for the sake of the foot clan. But it is very funny because it was, the offer was Deonti Johnson plus a pick swap for next year in my favor, of course, for T. Higgins. And I'm like, oh, dude, I am not looking at all to get Deontay Johnson. Rejected the offer. The offer, the exact same offer came back. with the pick swap, but no Deontay. And I'm like, that's actually a better offer. I don't have to drop someone. I don't have to have Deiante. Wow, that's funny. That's where we're at with Deontay Johnson right now. There you go. Now, Deontay's line is 46 and a half receiving yard. So it still seems like he's expected to be Deontay or Wondale in an emergency. Wondale. That's easy Wondale for me. Oh, man, gross. I abstain.

I refuse. It's neither. I would probably go Deonte. I probably would too. Herbert, Bryce Young face off this week. J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards are both great starts. I would put them both out there. Gus Bus is my start of the week. Jason, you talked about McConkey. I love McConkey. I'm not excited about him in this matchup. In week one, by the way, the Panthers gave up 32.2 points to running backs. like fantasy points in week one and just 21 to the quarterback position. So Herbert and McConkey are kind of out for you. Yes, the passing game as a whole is out. If you look at what the Panthers did last year, last year, you could run all over them and you could pass all over them too. This is not a scary secondary, but they were number two in fantasy points given up to the quarterback position. Like 10 fantasy points a game is what they gave up to the quarterback. Elite. They were number two against wide receiver, number one against tight in. It's not because.

It's not because they were awesome. It's because they were unneeded. The passing game is unneeded against these Panthers. That happened with Houston two years ago. Yes. Houston had a horrible secondary and didn't give up a lot of fantasy points because you didn't need to. Why throw when you can just run the clock out because I've got a good lead? Let's get to next week, everybody. The Cleveland Browns at 0-1. Taking on the O'N-1 Jacksonville Jaguars, who blew a 17-2-3 lead against Tua and the Dolphins in week one. The Draft King Sportsbook line Jacksonville minus three. The over-under is 41 and a half. That's not a lot. It's not the Miami-Jackson game of last week. That was a dud compared to the over-under. So we get to see a couple of former Clemson quarterbacks who have a ton of money wrapped up in their contracts face off against one another. I, you know, I.

The situation with Cleveland right now is tough because Amari Cooper was a huge letdown in week one. Now part of that was his fault. He dropped touchdown. A bigger part of that was Watson, who looked inept, who looked incapable, who looked like he lost the confidence of his team. Oh, I don't know that you ever had the confidence of his team, but they also played against a really good Cowboys secondary. I. I'm just saying this right now. I love Amari Cooper this week. I love. He's got a 59.5 yard receiving line at DK. The Jaguars are by low right now? Buy low on Amari Cooper. You've got a banged up Jerry Judy. You've got no Nogoku. And Jacksonville just lost two cornerbacks. No Joku. No Joku. Dang. Nice. That sucks. Yeah. Swish. Yeah, I was really, I was.

on the border between swish and busted there. I was hesitant. Was the busted temptation because you missed it? I don't think so. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so, you know, they lost important cornerbacks that aren't playing this week. I think Amari Cooper eats. I really do. Now, you do know that's going to have to come on the other side of the arm. Yes. I do. I do. But last year. Is Watson, is this the redemption game for Watson? You know, Jacksonville, that defense wasn't great in week one. Yeah, I mean, Watson is always someone because of his legs that can be okay for fantasy. I don't expect Watson to have much outside of a Murray Cooper. He doesn't have many other talented players. You know, Jerry Judy is going to be out there, but I know he's banged up. And so I.

In a two-quarterback league, I think it's okay to put in Watson as your quarterback too. But Amari Cooper should get the, you know, the lion's share of the passing work here. And Jerome Ford is, he's a RB2. Jerome Ford is a weekly play. Yes, he is. And he will never feel exciting. Yep, that's fine too. Jerome Ford or? Singletar? Oh, okay. On the other side, Brian Robinson? June. Brian Robinson, the running back, not Brian Thomas, who I was thinking of. Correct. Robinson. Okay. But I like Ryan Robinson. It's funny because Jerome Ford is always going to not get the answer whenever we're like this guy or that guy. But he's probably the right answer. Jerome Ford was really, really involved. Wasn't his touchdown like a super garbage time? Yeah, but he's 75% of the snaps all the, all the touches inside the red zone. Like the.

Yeah, they'll be his. Yeah, while Jerome Ford himself is not the most exciting player, the high value touches. Like catching the ball and inside the red zone, that's where we want to work. So he's going to get it all. I've decided that one of my least favorite things that happens in fantasy football is the end zone pass interference that leads to my opponents running back getting a free touchdown. Oh, yeah. You don't like that, huh? No, that's. What if you're on the other side, though? Love it. Oh, it's one of my favorite things in fantasy is when the wide receiver gets pass interference in the end zone and I know I've got the running back. That is so much fun. Yeah, yeah. All right. On the other side, ETN still had 70% of the snaps. The matchup, it's not an easy one. And if there's some distribution of work, you're going to be kind of touchdown or bust potentially with these two running backs. I'm still playing Travis ETN. I am.

stashing tank bigsby i'm not to the point where i feel confident putting tank in therefore will the time share of even carries will that happen again i i want to see it a couple times before i start investing in actually playing i agree brian thomas not brian robinson brian thomas um you play him the dk line is just 38 and a half It's tough. The Brown's defense is really, really good. I am so excited and all in on Brian Thomas this season. He's not going to be someone that just dominates every single week. So when I look at this matchup, I would rather have him on my bench than out there as a starter. But he's got talent. I mean, he beat Jalen Ramsey last week for a touchdown. So maybe he's just that good. Are you?

making sure he's in your lineup? Are you just using him as like, well, if I've got a safer option, I'll go that route? He's in the exact boat that Jameson Williams is in this week where you've drafted them or picked them up much later. And so it's, you're having to make calls like Olive versus these guys or did we say Brian Thomas versus Terry? Yeah, I mean, that one I'd go Brian Thomas. Yeah. Jay, where are you at with that? Oh, man. That is, that is a very tough. I'm going to. I think I'm going to go Brian Thomas. What about Ridley? Calvin Ridley or Brian Thomas Jr. is one of the biggest searches because Ridley was higher drafted. Thomas later. Thomas had the better week one. I like Tennessee at home this week. Yeah. I'm going to lean Ridley too. Not by full confidence though. One catch for Evan Ingram last week. We just say, don't worry about it. You don't worry about that. Forget about it. The Raiders at 0-1 take on the O&1 Baltimore Ravens. Drafking Sportsbook line, Baltimore minus eight.

overrunners 41, which is low. So that means that the Raiders are projected for fewer points in the Carolina Panthers this week. Just so you know. Wait, what? Yeah, 16.8 versus 17 implied point totals. If I could make a bet on which one of those two teams scores more, I, oh my gosh, I heard you say Ravens. And I was like, what? But you said Raiders. You bet I did. The Baltimore Raiders. I tuned out about halfway through the word. Yeah, no, that'll get you. With the Ray part being the commonality. Yeah. Ravens at 25 implied point total. They are eight point favorites. That is a lot. Over the last five years, when they're eight plus point favorites, they have won 86% of those games. They have covered the spread, only 49% of the time. So we were disturbed by the Mark Andrews' usage. Mike has stuck his nose into your, at your disbelief. Huh?

Where am I putting my nose? Mike has jammed his nose. You stop talking about my nose, good sir. Where are you putting that? I bite my thumb at you. What is the expression where you like, you thumb your nose? You thumb your nose, yes. What does that mean? Like you push your, I think it's, I think it's. Oh, you're like this. I think it's like an old timey. That's good audio. It's an old timey, obscene gesture, I think. So you've thought you're thumbing your nose at the doubters. That's what I was trying to get at. Yeah, well, coming your nose is this.

It is? Wait. No, no, that's like from Peter Pan. No, this makes sense. When you put the, when you put the thumb up in the five fingers? This is thumbing your nose. Is it? Yeah. No, I'm. And for the listeners, I was more with Andy. I'm putting like the whole like the high five and you touch your nose with your thumb and you're like, you know, like the turkey. That's thumbing your nose? I believe so. I don't know about that. We got to get our top men on this. The point is, Mike jammed his nose up in y'all. Yeah. Mike made Mark Andrews the start of the week. I have been on record believing that Mark Andrews is going to rebound. I hope it's this game as well. Brock Bowers had a great debut. Isaiah likely was the fab darling. You have three tight-ins in this game that could get played this week and probably will be played this week. Yeah. Brock Bowers looked very, very good. I have no problem putting Brock Bowers right into my starting lineup.

You have made the quickest about face on Brock Bowers after one week of any player I think you've ever. Yeah, it's because it was week one utilization. It was right off the bat. And I never doubted his talent. Like I've never once sat here and said, I don't think Brock Bowers is good. It's I don't think he's going to get the ball. I don't think he's going to be on the field as much as you want. And he's got a bad quarterback all that. But. I mean, should I read the definition of thumbing nose? No, we got to get more information on this one. I don't know. I think Jason was right. Oh, man. You put the thumb on your nose and you wiggle the remaining fingers. Yeah. All right. And it's used by school children. And there's another nickname for it. Derek Henry. Has to do with a snook. Oh, okay. I see that phrase. What is it, Al?

It is cocking a snook. What? Yeah, there you go. What? Okay. What were we doing back then? We're reading Wikipedia is what we're doing. I think we should bring that back. Thumbing your nose is not nearly as powerful. But I'm afraid to say it. I did not think for a moment that asking Al to say it would work. Derek Henry, Mike, you took, I took his alt line of 70 plus because of it just this is a, this is a, a wager with history of when Derek Henry is at home and they win, which the Baltimore Ravens are going to win. And will he be salting the game away? And I think he will. Sure, but 30 carries. Like Harbaugh said, that's not in the game plan for Henry. But the game plan for the Baltimore Ravens, when they are up, is to run the ball out. And that's what Derek Henry is in there for. What's a, Flowers?

role in your fantasy roster? Dude, to be infuriating. He's a PPR flex. That's what I think. If you are in full PPR, he should be fine. He's a very highly targeted player, but they are usually short to the line of scrimmage. Now, it's not entirely fair to look at his box score from week one and say that everything was short. He had at least one. deep pass down the field that he would have had, you know, he could have dropped it, but it was a hardcore pass interference that drew the flag and moved them down the field. So, you know, you hope they open it up a little bit, but I think he is a talented player, a jitterbug that looks good. And if I'm in a PPR, even a half PPR, I think he's a good flex option. Bauer's participation with a 25% target share led to Devante Adams having his first.

under 20% game in a while. He's only done that six times in the last 92 games. So 19% target share was where he was out last week. Do you expect him to get more involved this week? Yeah, I would expect the wheel to run over. Not to be squeaky. This is just full run over Gardner Minchew in the locker room. Especially when he, throw me the ball. He wanted Aiden O'Connell. Like he liked Aiden O'Connell and wanted him for the reason of his target share with Aden O'Connell was ridiculous. Yeah. Minchoo is more conservative. I will say that if Minchu moves to O'Connell, that will scare me a bit for Brock Bowers on the flip. With a 16.8 implied point total for this team, I don't have a lot of confidence in any of the offensive pieces, including the running back room. What are you doing with the RBs here? Nothing. I'm not playing any of the one. Okay, trying to just, if you picked up Madison, you're just going to watch and see what happened. Madison, to me, is probably someone you don't have to start. I picked them up in a couple of leagues, and I think he'll be the better back in this backfield because of PPR.

probably have four plus receptions in this game, but against a good Baltimore Ravens defense, I'm not sure that those four targets are going to, you know, score a lot of fantasy points. Yeah, I think we, I think that touchdown could be distorting our view of his future on this roster too, because four, you know, four for 43, whatever, I don't know how often he's getting into the end zone. It's more of a, what do you believe about the, the time, the true belief of the timeshare between him and Zemir. I believe they want Zemir to run the ball more. I agree. But the game script may prohibit that at times, but Madison's not very good. He's not a very good player. I think you said it all fantastically. Also, I don't think Zemir White is a very good player. Maybe, maybe true. All right, we're going to take a break, come back with the last five matchups. The Rams take on the Cardinals, both teams sitting at O and one.

Both had tough week one matchups, the Draft King Sportsbook line. Arizona minus one at home. The over under is 48. Kyler Murray is fine, by the way. People were a little worried that he popped up on an injury report. He's okay. He's going to be okay. We have a divisional matchup here. Mike made Stafford his start of the week. I am, for whatever reason, probably wrong based on last night's projection, but I just have more hesitancy around Stafford going on the road without puka. than I think you two do. Well, there's two parts to this. My hesitancy is the offensive line. The offensive line for the Rams just got decimated in Detroit. They lost at least three starters, possibly four starters. I mean, it's like that line is just, they're a makeshift now already in week two. So that's scary. However, my confidence comes from Sean McVeigh and the fact that he's able to scheme these things and he's had the Cardinals number.

just, I feel like the Rams own the Arizona Cardinals. Because they do. And so I love, I mean, obviously everyone's starting Cooper Cup, but Cooper Cup is my literal Water Shriver 1 for the week. I think he eats and there's no one on the Cardinals defense that can stop him. Stafford was the quarterback 7 in Arizona last year. It was one of his, it was the second best fantasy performance of the year. His averages against the Cardinals are exactly in line with. what you want from a streaming type of a quarterback. So, Kynar, put him in. Yep. If you are more desperate at quarterback, go with Mike's start of the week in Stafford. We have Cooper Cup. Yes. On pace for 357 targets. That's a funny one after week one. Yeah, it's wild. He's going to be obviously heavily involved. DeMarcus Robinson. He was already out there 92% of the time last week, so he's going to be fine.

The question will be, you know, other weapons. Their offensive coordinator came out and talked about Tyler Johnson and that he's going to be the man. They said he is the man that's going to need to step up. Which that, if you had picked, look, I still prefer DeMarcus Robinson, I believe, because he's a vet. He was already good and he already had a role in this offense. He was, regardless of if Puka was playing, DeMarcus Robinson is one of the full-time wide receivers for this team. Now, after the game, we saw. a quote come out of, and I believe it was McVeigh who said it. He's like, we have Cooper Cup, we have DeMarcus, and then we have three other guys who are going to have to step up and fill in. That was the immediate reaction. So to see the, now this coming out from the coaching staff of saying, no, Tyler is actually the guy. I mean, it's a deep play, but I think that you can have.

some confidence in playing. And keep your eye on Whittington, a rookie wide receiver who got so much buzz this off season. I mean, he was everyone around L.A. was like, did they, did they find another Bucca? Yeah. And he's going to get the opportunity. I don't have him on rosters. I didn't pick him up. He's on waivers. I think that's too. That's more of a dynasty play. Yeah, I agree. But if he hits in this week, that's, I would go hard after him next week. So Colby Parkinson's my start of the week. Yeah, you've got to play him. Sorry, this isn't forcing Colby, but I'm saying people are struggling at tight end, and I think he is one of the top 12. Kyler on the other side, I have this one decision, one of our popular searches on the website that starts hit tool. Kyler or Jaden Daniels. I have that decision in a- That's brutal. In a league. I'm going Kyler at home in this matchup. I have so much more trust in Kyler as a passer, and he's going to run the football as well.

And then the big question mark in this game, the biggest storyline in this game or for the Cardinals is Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah, we in the office. Kyler had 57 rushing yards last week, by the way. So in the office, we all have, we're very tuned into and hopeful of Marvin Harrison Jr. being the player that they drafted at number four overall. But we were like, hey, let's project his line. And I think I was the highest at 4 for 64. So the optimism is not fantastic. What's his line? Yeah, that's exactly where I was going to go, that the DK lines at 58 and a half. And I think I was the only one who was even slightly above it. That's because we're terrified, Mike. Yeah, that is. We're trying to, like, protect ourselves. As far as lines go, I'm very optimistic to see this one. 13 for 300. You're changing. I like seeing a 58.5 yard line. That says they expect him to be far more involved in the offense.

than he was week one, which I think the whole world does. Do you want to hear something that is to the optimistic side for Marvin Harrison? Yes, please. The Cardinals did not play their starters in the preseason. So you have a rookie. He got one, I think he got one drive in the very first game. He never got to play again. So you're talking about game speed on an NFL field. The first experience he had going out there and putting the pads on and doing it with Kyler was in Buffalo in week one where clearly, We would all admit that he had hesitancy in what he was doing on the field. And so I do think that that means the acclamation period is going to be a little bit different. He just didn't get out there. A couple of names. Marvin Harrison Jr. or Jameson Williams? I will take no further questions at this time. Please respect my privacy. I think you asked me that one yesterday and I hopefully gave the same answer today. I would play Marvin. Okay. And what about Tank Dell or Marvin? Cool.

I feel like I want to be part of the Marvin game. So I guess I'll go there. Okay. I'm the other two guys, but I get it. All right. James Connor was the running back 10 last week. Yeah, he's in. And the Rams gave up 31 and a half fantasy points last week to the running back position. Terry McBride, led the team in targets. It was not fun targets. They were just little dinks and dunks. Yeah, tight-in getting nine targets is great. He's talented. He's in. The Steelers take on the Broncos. Drafking Sportsbook line here. Pittsburgh minus two and a half. The overrunners. Oh, 36 and a half. It's gross. It's, it's gross. Can we get the bonics, Mike? Bonix. Bonix. Nice. Yeah, I mean, this is this is not great, man. Pittsburgh's defense looked ridiculous last week. And if you take a great defense, like I.

Is there a better one to play this week? I don't know. Like Pittsburgh against a rookie quarterback who already threw two interceptions. Between the Jets, the Steelers this week. Great defensive plays. I mean, goodness gracious, T.J. Watt was unbelievable last week against a veteran Kirk Cousins. You could not stop talking about TJ Watt. He was just unbelievable. Now he gets Bo Nix. So from a starting fantasy standpoint, I don't know how much there is to talk about in this game. I can tell you. Because a low over under, I mean. Justin Fields, I think is fine. I would start him over. Stafford. I would start Stafford. Trevor Lawrence. I would probably go Fields. Lawrence against that Brown's defense is tough. Fields couldn't run a lot. I talked up. Pat Fryermouth. He's my start of the week. I think they're going to need him when you've got Sartan on George Pickens. And the, you know, last year at least the.

the Denver Broncos could not guard the tight end. So I think it's kind of a nice amalgamation of a streaming option. I am currently being forced due to my League of Record team perishing in week one. I am being forced to play Giovante Williams. Ah, week two perishing. His line is at 40 and a half rushing yards. Do I have any hope? Yeah. Yeah. You have hope to hit 40 rushing yards with no touchdowns or receptions. He'll get some receptions. I'll tell you what, right now. If I get 40 yards from Javonte Williams, total, that's a win. He did catch one pass for zero yards last week. Sean Peyton, where are those? Yeah, I mean, he's just not that good. He'll, he'll get some. I don't care if he's not that good. The offense is throwing the ball to the running back position. Blake Watson's going to work himself into this rotation now in the estimate roll of four touches or something like that.