Week 8 Studs & Duds + Reactions & Breaking News! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/30

On today's show, a lot, a lot of news to break down, especially talking about quarterbacks. And as usual, the studs, the duds. Subscribe right now and don't miss a moment. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast for Monday, October 30th. We're getting ready.

Almost time. Halloween show tomorrow. We have some special stuff in store. It should be fun. You excited for that one, Andy? Not really. Oh, what? I mean, I'm excited for the listeners and watchers, I guess. That's what's all about, man. Enjoy the what's going to happen. Yeah. But do you regret your choice? Yes. Okay. Yes, I regret my choice because my choice, I mean, obviously I put a lot into the show and I'm willing to sacrifice for the greater good and that's why I'm doing it. You're really the champion of that for the three of us. Yeah, I mean, many times that's been evident. Me and Jason would look up to you. Oh, man. Much reverence, such esteem. Yeah, such esteem. It's just what a guy. Some costumes cost. Costs a lot. Not money.

What did it cost? But time. But time. And you just can't get some things back. Yeah. I look forward to your sacrifice. Is that not a good tease or what? I mean, make sure you go to YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. And you'll enjoy it tomorrow. Subscribe. Click the bell. 12,000 of you tuned in for Sunday live to do the late morning dance. There was some good, some bad. There's some wild things that happened this week. And we're going to talk about it, week seven, still got a Monday night football game. And there's nothing quite like counting on the Raiders. Yeah, that voice was just me, white knuckle waiting until the end of that game to be over. I need Amman Ra to not get to 19 points. Ah, well, I need Jared Goff to not go 34 points. Okay. Which I believe he has done a couple times already. Now, is he not your quarterback?

He is, this is, there's League of Record, then there's the main dynasty. League of Record, locked up, bros. But the dynasty, I am against Jared Gough. 34, huh? So if he goes crazy with Ammonra, you two. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Solo Halloween show. Yeah. You'll be looking good, though. I don't agree with that. I will not be looking good tomorrow or the rest of the week. Let's put it that way. Oh, yeah. You know, I should have time, I wish I would have timed it up better with leaving for a few days. You know what I mean? I mean, sure. But, um, we got to do, uh, Halloween on a Friday next year, maybe. Uh, we'll, we'll talk to some people. We got some pull. We can move national holidays. You guys want to react to the weekend. We've got, uh, we've got Monday pundit. Yes. Let's start with the good. Yeah.

Like CD Lamborghini. CD's points. Oh, how about Dak Imprescott? Oh, like impressive. Yeah. That's a good one. DeAndre Hopwins. Ooh, DeAndre Hat Trick. Or Trey My Bride. I don't even know what? No, you sold it. You did it well. Why don't you take a ride on the magic school guts? Uh, win Levis. Yes, yes. But also sad with. It's back. Alexander Saddison. What about Crabtrick Mahomes? Yeah, get him. Tanked Dell. Chris, no lave. Oh, man, he's. Cooper, yuck. Oh, and puke, Nakua. Or how about Romandre Stephen sucks? That's my favorite one. My favorite one when I read through him. I hadn't seen it. This is the best, Mike. You should never.

Preview these. Like Tony Pooleard. Yeah, tiny Pollard. Oh, right. Steven sucks? Yeah. Right on the nose, man. Right on the nose. Sometimes it's almost too easy. Remember, these are all. That fruit is on the ground. It's not even on the tree. It's not even hanging. Yeah. It's just low fruit. Well, those all, you know, Foot Clan submissions. Thank you. Those came in from Instagram at Fantasy Footballers. And from Twitter, sorry, the artist formerly known as Twitter, at the FF Ballers. And, you know, it's a cathartic way to deal with the week and the good and the bad. I saw a lot of negative, but I mean, we had some good in there too. There was a lot of points yesterday. There were a lot of points. I am going to lose both of my major leagues with sufficient point totals to have a victory. And that is, well, that's fantasy football, isn't it? I commented and saw.

so many people reacting to the fact that last week I had 77 points dropped on me by Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. This week, that combo combined for 16 total points between Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. And so, yeah, because you all should have known play the Denver defense like this guy. Oh, man, that's right. I forgot about that. That's your defense in draft king. Yeah, it was. Wow. Stone cold minimum. That was the one place I won this week, is I won the prize of not being the wheel of shape. Did you, Jay? I did not, but it's all right. It's all right. I got wins just about everywhere else. So long as Lemon Raw does not get 19 points. Don't do it. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Speaking of Amin Ra, St. Brown added the injury report on Sunday with an illness. Questionable for Monday night football. That was.

what doomed Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. It feels like there's like a pat sick. No, no. Pat sick Mahomes? Yeah, I mean. Pat sick? Yeah, that works. I mean, he didn't. The Denver defense has been better. Yes. Not just this week. Like they've been better for a while now. And it's tough because you still see them on the schedule and you slam, play everybody against them. But this is why on our website, if you go to the Foot Clan Tools. We added like last five, last three, last seven in terms of being able to filter the consistency charts and our stream finder tools because, you know, one 70 point matchup against the dolphins literally will define the entire year if you're only viewing in that broad view. So it is, yeah, they've been a lot better and they pretty much dominated the Kansas City Chiefs. First road, divisional.

loss for Patrick Mahomes ever, which doesn't make sense that he could have been 16 and 0 on the road in division, but he was. It only took the flu and 20 degree weather to finally slow him down. Wonderful combination. I like being out in the freezing cold when I have the flu. Dude, I cannot imagine. I was talking on Sunday live and it's like when you're at home and you have the flu and like. You got to go downstairs. Too much. No. They're like that, that place doesn't exist anymore. This, I am in this space and this space alone. And then this guy's like, no, I'm going to go play football. He's probably feeling real bad today. Oh, he probably feels terrible because he's a loser. 2,964 days for the Broncos. Wow. Kirk Cousins. Oh, that's. Major, major news tore his Achilles.

The Vikings are four and four. They had a cupcake schedule coming up. They would have been in the mix. In fact, they're in the playoffs right now. Yeah. And so, you know, there's going to be rumors about them trading for a quarterback before tomorrow, which is our deadline. It seems more likely that they try to survive while Nick Mullins returns because Nick Mullins is going to be their guy. Now, right now they have a fifth round rookie Jaron Hall and they have Sean Mannion who. I mean, I'd rather go down with the rookie than Sean Mannion. And Nick Mullins is eligible to return week 10. So it's more, I mean, that's the most likely outcome. But this is a, this is not just a huge blow for the Vikings fans. This is a huge blow for Jordan Addison managers, a huge blow for Justin Jefferson managers. This is what you feared at the end of the year. One of the reasons why dynasty questions around Addison versus Flowers or Addison versus, you know, JSN, like quarterback.

Question marks. You just don't know what you're going to get. Yeah, you expect it to be much more difficult for the Vikings to have victories, which makes it less likely that Jefferson comes back quickly. Hawkinson. I mean, everybody across the board just takes a massive blow. Like, you're going to start Hawkinson next week because he's a tight end and you don't have any choices. And outside of him. I'm terrified. Addison will be on my bench even though he's great. It just stinks. They were second in pass rate, third in total passes per game, and that is just plain not going to be the case moving forward. They can't do that. And Cam Acres, you know, didn't have a really good game, gotten to the end zone. Madison was Sadison, but both those guys are going to get more run, I think.

Yep. You agree with that? No, I agree. They will have to. They will have to lean on the run game. And there was, you know, a stint in there where they were really having success with, with Madison, you know, being like a, just like a type of a grinder. And long term, this is really brutal. You know, I believe this is cousin's final year of guaranteed money. I think the deal is like technically some void years, but he will have to resign and he will be resigning. you know, while recovering, or maybe we look over at what Aaron Rogers is doing because he's like each week we get more and more video of him throw, like on the field. Now he's moving. Moved, like moving, like walking around throwing a football. So maybe there's maybe Aaron Rogers and all of his personal research, he found some, something that worked. Well, and the truth is if you really dig into that situation, you know, that there's a lot of.

attention given to the alternate science and all of that. The truth is, is he went to the foremost, like, leader in Achilles surgery in the world where Kobe went to have his faster recovery and where they're pioneering some techniques to heal faster. And he's putting in all the effort and whatever, you know, secret serums or whatever. Right. He's putting in all the effort to get back. And look, when I see him moving around, I'm like, please don't. I'm like, oh, my gosh, you're going to hurt yourself. That's what I keep thinking. I do think there's a chance they will look around at backup quarterbacks. And it's like, could you get Jacoby Brissette for relatively cost efficient? Because looking at the Vikings, here's what the defense has done the past five weeks, 10 points allowed by Green Bay, 17 to San Francisco, 13 to Chicago, 27 to Kansas City.

which it's the chiefs. Hey, that ain't too bad. That's not too bad against a healthy Patrick Mahomes. 13 points to the Carolina Panthers. I mean, this isn't just. Atlanta, beatable. New Orleans, beatable. Denver, beatable. Chicago beatable. And they're Raiders, beatable. They are in the division. The defense is playing much, much better. Like, this is a team that if things bounced in the right direction, they have a chance in the playoff. So it is probably Mullins. I agree with that. But it wouldn't shock me that they're going to. peek around. I would have brought up Heineke's name, but he had to take over this past weekend. I would have brought up Tannahill's name, but he's recovering from injury, so you're like, is this guy going to get back to help you? Matthew Stafford also injured his right thumb and the loss of the Cowboys. The team is not ruling out IR for Matthew Stafford, and this was the red alert to start the year. This was the before Cup hurt himself. It was why Cup is a risk. And this would be more devastating.

to Pooka Nakua than it would be Cooper Cup. And it would be devastating to both. But there is just something about Matthew Stafford running this offense, them finding the places in the zone. I mean, he might not be able to grip the football. Yeah, I mean, this is very similar to the Viking situation where in the meantime, while Stafford is away, it is going to be very difficult to trust any receiving options there whatsoever. They have their buy week in two weeks. So it makes sense if he doesn't go on IR, you're still not going to have basically, you know, like if you've got puka, no, you don't, not for a couple weeks. Right. Yeah, and I saw another pun was Cooper a couple bad games in a row. I mean, it was, it's been a challenge. I saw a puk in the cup. Puk in the cup. Yeah, because they both had a down week. Super gross. Super gross. Yeah, yeah.

Kenny Pickett left the game against Jags with the rib injury. He looks like he'll be a game time decision next week, potentially. And, you know, Mike Tomlin said the door is ajar for Pickett to play. That's nice. That offense did not look good. Nope. Drake, London, exited with a groin injury. Desmond Ritter, concussion, checked for it. Cleared protocol did not return. Yeah. Jonathan Gannon said, Josh, so let's talk about this, Mike. I want your take because instantaneously, the Cardinals head coach John Gannon said that Josh Dobbs is starting a week nine. Yeah, it's. I think there's funny business going on. Do you? Oh, really? You think that you think that he's, that he's just bluffing? I just think that, no, no, no. I think there's no chance Kyler starts, but I think that there's a chance. Kyler just stays on pup. Like this season is now, they have the number one pick right now.

and there's a huge risk financially to letting Kyla Murray play because if he gets injured again, tons of guarantees come into play. Okay, I got you. And it's weird to me, like, sure, maybe he didn't like the questions from the press conferences all week long and just didn't want to deal with him. So he just rules him out. But that means that he's ruled out. Like, that means that the team knew going into this week. He would be ruled out for next week, even though heading into this week, it was we'll see if he plays on Sunday. So, like, there's something behind the scenes that this team knows that we don't know. Because there's no reason to rule him out immediately after the game unless you knew it earlier in the week, which you could have told us. There's, I mean, he, as evidence of the beginning of the season, Gannon thinks that there is some games. Like, he's playing gamesmanship stuff. So. But he was. Why isn't he doing it this week? I get it.

maybe he's just tired of it. And they knew, I mean, the plan that we had heard before all of this like rush of optimism, which the optimism was coming from mostly our side. I know he was being coy of like, well, we'll see if he plays this weekend. But in Arizona, everything we were hearing was of they're going to take the time. He won't play this past week. He's not going to play the next week. But then he should be back after that. I get that they're. There is huge implications for the team in terms of Murray's contract. But I'm believing them that Kyle, even if they have the first overall pick, Kyler's their guy. And then they will just use the first pick, the first overall pick to cash out and do a huge, get a ton of first round assets. Because Caleb Williams is going to be, he will draw a ton in a trade. It's almost even more valuable for the Cardinals to.

It's the, you know, like in Dynasty Football, we always say like a player, a known player is often worth more than the first round pick because the first round pick could suck even though it seems like they're locked in. No, there's a chance they're bad. So why not go with Kyler, rebuild the team real quick with that first overall? Yeah, I don't think he's getting traded. And I don't, I just think that when you look at the strategy of the team, fantasy players need to know that like from a. strategy standpoint is better that the Cardinals don't risk their future quarterback and get the first pick. Yeah. I mean, they're going to lose to the Browns next week. Yep. I think Kyler's back the following week. Against the Falcons? Yeah. Yeah, that would be the one to target. And he did come out and talk about that game and said he's not willing to commit to anything yet. Tyrod Taylor exited the game, rib injury. Yeah.

He had to go to hospital, man. Yeah, the good news this morning, Daniel Jones cleared for contact. He'll be back at quarterback. He, if you watched, you could actually see the moment he was clear for contact was the moment that Tyrod got bused to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. It was not, they're not linked. When he was cleared off the field by some contact. Yeah, and then Tommy, aka Danny DeVito, came in and had negative pass yards. Yeah, because he swung it. Behind the line of scrimmish to Sequin every play. I mean, Sequin had 36 carries in the game. He had three receptions for zero yards, which was really cool. Hey, Daniel Jones coming back. Daniel Jones coming back is huge. The defense, I mean, I brought this up last week. The Giants' defense is playing at an elite level. The Giants should have won the game. They should have won the game with, listen, seven total passing yards for the Giants in the game. They had seven passing yards in the game. Darren Waller got hurt.

immediately. And this is a problem. Like, Darren Waller could be, you know, heading to IR for all we know at this point. So Daniel Jones, come on back. I mean, give Wandale and Saquan a chance in this offense. I don't like, you know, we talk about like when you have a small pie and you have to split it up a couple ways. splitting up seven yards. You can't split seven into a piece that would give you any sustenance. I would have to verify it, but I think Darren Waller was the leading receiver because he technically, he had four receiving yards. Impressive. There's no way he's not. That's the majority of the yards. This is where you could throw out those fantasy stats like Darren Waller over the last week, more than 50% of the team's yards.

I can't wait to see that one on Twitter today. That's a fun step. Or I'm going to see it to justify starting him in a couple weeks. What else is going on? We have Curtis Samuel injured. Kendrick Bourne out for the year, torn ACL, had a touchdown in the game. If you look at the snaps in New England, suddenly now, Demerio Douglas is in play and redraft because he's playing almost every snap. Believe Juju did not come into the game. until after the born injury. And Devante Parker left early with a concussion and was like one of the guys not getting snaps anyways. Tyquan Thornton was a healthy and active. Like DiMario has moved into pole position at this point. For sure. He is he is the number one. Devante Parker played 43% of snaps. Jalen Rager 58% of snaps. DeMario Douglas, 77% of snaps. He is their main guy. He led in in targets.

He led in receiving yards. He led in snaps. And this has been a constant for them. We've talked about it in the Waver Wire episode, I think the last two weeks, as a name to pay attention to. We were talking about it in Dynasty, but you're right. This is redraft now. He should be a decent start. Will Levis is going to start Thursday night against the Steelers. So we're going to get us to see them in prime time. Which, dude. Good work. But Nana Remma. Will Levis made us all look. Real, real dumb. He made the NFL look dumb. It's only one game. He made his team look dumb forever for not giving him a shot sooner. Third quarterback in history to have four passing touchdowns in their first game. Listen. He balled out. I tried very hard this morning to find anybody in the pop culture world that screamed the words banana ramma so that I could have a drop for the show.

Which I'm going to put this out there to the footland. Find me something. Well, it's the band. But that's what I was going to say. All that kept coming back was these three ladies from Banana Ramah. It's a cruel summer, baby. Cruel summer. Which maybe that's the drop. I don't know. We got to work this out. If Will Levis starts turning it up, we've got to, you know, bring Banana Ramah back. But the performance and the throws. I mean, the throws were especially that back corner little whip drop it into the bucket. Yeah. I mean, just one game, but that was very exciting. My favorite part was when everybody said, thanks a lot for telling us not to start Hopkins. Yeah, I mean, the process. The process was it was going to be Malik Willis and Willis. Yeah, I don't blame anyone for having Hopkins on your bench. What we didn't factor in to the process was Arthur Smith and his disdain.

for fantasy football. And he knew we were, everyone in the world was starting the Atlanta Falcons DST. And so he made sure that we all looked foolish yet again because he hates us. Arthur Smith also had tied in two, Johnny Smith, toss a pass. That play, that play was a clown show. Yeah. What was that? All right, that was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Let's take a break. Come back with some studs. You know, we'll jump in here momentarily. I will say this. Our job on this show is to give you all the information. Tell you the decisions we're making, get you prepared. Tell you what? This weekend, if I was facing my home's Kelsey, I would have been terrified. If I was facing DeAndre Hopkins, I would have been overjoyed.

And I would have inverted that into the pain and suffering that those that did face Hopkins had to endure. I mean, fantasy is wild. And it's because the NFL is. I mean, you can have a team lose and give up 70 points and you can have them come back and beat the Super Bowl champions a few weeks later. Yeah, that game is the most indicative of how, of the parody in the NFL. Yes. I mean, you want to talk about, like, what are those pools? What, Survivor Pool? Yeah. Oh, Doom. Get wrecked. Yeah, I mean, it's true. All right, let's talk studs. This week's fantasy stud muffins. Go ahead, Jay. I mean, if Sam Hal could play the Philadelphia Eagles every week, you would be in great shape because those perform. I mean, number one overall this week, you know, put up $2.90 against them in week four.

on the road. That was nothing. That was peanuts. I mean, the sack leader in the NFL is on pace for 4,500 yards, 28 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, 87 sacks. But big game for Sam Hell and a tough one to start in me because you just, you feel like it is pure roulette with hell. It's the, but it's not, it's not roulette where there's like five, five empty spots and one bullet. Like there's three bullets and three empty spots. Yeah. Yeah, it's a 50%. But you know that he has this kind of upside. He has great weapons. I think in the right matchup, you can throw him in there. I mean, 397 yards, four passing touchdowns. And some of the, I mean, there was a pass that just looked. It was one of the best passes I've seen in weeks, one of his touchdowns. Did it go to Jahan Donson Superstar?

The 8 for 108 in a touchdown. What in the heck? Yeah. What in the Sam Hills? I'm going to say. Dodson. We've got Dodson here. Yeah, we have them in week eight. The fact that you had nearly 400 passing yards and you utilized your first round wide receiver. That's not a coincidence? I mean, who will never know? We will never know. I don't know if life is back in the Jahan Dodson universe. But over the last two weeks, he's on pace for 153 targets. He had eight and then 10. What in the world? Why do you do this to us? Fantasy football? Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hertz. We talked about Will Levis. That performance was awesome. But I want to talk about Dak. Dak was 25 for 31, 304 and 4. He could have thrown a couple more if he wanted to.

The game was out of hand. They could do no wrong. I mean, the Dallas Cowboys looked so prepared and the connection between C.D. Lamb and D. Prescott is on fire right now. I almost traded for C.D. Lamb last week. Because it just seemed like after the buy, this team would figure out the things that work a little bit better. Dak was brought up in Hungry for More by Mike, I believe. Oh, my second half sleeper. Second half sleeper. Yeah, I mean, talking about the schedule plays Philly, which Sam Hal just eviscerated. Then a tougher matchup against the Giants, but then you've got Carolina. Like the second half for DAC is very good. And they're not, I mean, to be fair, Tony Poolard, like they aren't running the ball well. Like Tony Pollard has like over 120 carries without a touchdown in a row or touches without a touchdown.

Justin Herbert monster game against Chicago. I think he started 15 for 15 in that game. Did it with banged up Joshua Palmer? Cuge? Cuge looked okay. Did he? Yeah, I think he had 50 yards caught most of his. Did he look okay to you? Yeah, he looked okay. Was it relative to previous Cuge? Yes. I mean, I'm not saying he looked like a superstar, but he was. Would you start him if Joshua Palmer was out? Yeah, he was five for 50. Yeah, five for 50, what, on six targets, I think? Yes, plays the Jets next week on the road. Yeah, no, thank you. It was a huge game by his standards. Right. Tua, pretty good game for Tua against New England, who had held him in check in the earlier part of the year, plays Kansas City in Germany next week. Ponsure. A nice early morning game. Mike, your quarterback.