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Week 18 Matchups + Jason's Hairy Shimmy Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/3

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Week 18 Matchups + Jason's Hairy Shimmy Shame! | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1709

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The regular season ends with a backup-quarterback neck contest, a reminder that Jason loved Breece Hall like a child, and Jason's Wheel of Shame hair costume that makes his shimmy worse.

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I don't know. I mean, it's wild. Amir Abdullah has hodgepodged his way to four top ten – sorry, four top 15 finishes in the last six weeks. Amir Abdullah. The Abdullah Express is currently sitting – this is, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. This is his tenth season and it's his best fantasy finish. Oh, gosh. The best fantasy finish of his career in season ten. That's kind of wild. He got stuck with that Detroit Lions stank. That was the run of – To start the career. Yeah, the run of the running backs where it was so much hope for them and this nothingness.

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He isn't a prototypical three down back either. So, he definitely settled into kind of a focused role. Brock Bowers. He's interesting. Reception line seven and a half, nine receptions from breaking the record. If I was the Raiders, this would be my one sole focus of the game. Would be getting Brock Bowers, pro bowler Brock Bowers, the opportunity to break this record. Which would be incredible. And just so that we're clear, that is not the rookie record, which he has already broken. This is the all-time record at tight end. Correct. As a rookie. What an accomplishment that would be. He's unbelievable.

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Yeah. He is. He is just magnificent. All right. We'll take a break. Talk some more matchups. Seattle, nine and seven. Rams, ten and six. DraftKings Sportsbook line, Seattle minus six and a half over under 39. Why is Seattle favored like that? Well, the Rams are trying to lose. The Rams don't need to play their starters. Rams don't care. And I know that Seattle has, like, essentially nothing on the line. But getting to ten wins for a club, I think is. And a rookie head coach. I think it's pretty important. Not only that, but ten wins is part of big, massive payouts for Geno Smith.

21:05 ↗

Oh, okay. I believe he's 183 passing yards away. And if he gets to ten wins, it's a massive payout. So, there is incentive for the Seahawks here. And the Rams are going to be resting guys. Geno needs 185, but he's got a – and he needs to hold his completion percentage. So, JSN. Is this good money for Geno so he can, you know, go retire someplace? I mean, are they going to move on from Geno Smith? Because this was a bad, bad season for Geno Smith. When you go 17 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, third straight year dropping your touchdown numbers, throwing more picks.

21:46 ↗

I mean, it's hard to criticize. It's a strange season, yeah. I mean, if they win, they're ten wins. That's a solid season. And their defense has been – Poo-poo. Weird. It's a weird defense. Started the season okay. Yeah. Sometimes they're fantastic. Sometimes they're really, really bad. And they're – overall, you're in a tough spot with Geno because he is still a capable quarterback. Ten wins is ten wins. He's a quarterback where you're like – he's not a bad quarterback. But you also know you won't win a Super Bowl with him. Right. Not as likely. Not going to happen. Yeah, impossible.

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I mean, I guess he could be the backup and come in and it goes – Okay, Mr. Sam Darnold, it's impossible. All right. Sam Darnold's the trump card forever because he's apparently figured it out. Look, Sam Darnold – Can you win a Super Bowl with Baker Mayfield? Yes. Two years ago, you would have said impossible. Also, don't know about those two yet. Like, the playoffs are all that matter for those players. You can get to the playoffs with a good record and then it doesn't matter. Sure. You know, Kyler, you remember Cardinals 11 wins, was it? Ten or 11 wins with Cliff?

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Oh, yeah. They get to the playoffs, they fold. Imploded. You know, will Sam Darnold step up in the playoffs will be the question. You probably look at Geno at this stage of his career and say, at some point you've got to say, is this the guy that we want to build the foundation of the team around? I don't know. I'm not saying the answer's no definitive. What I'm saying is it's really difficult because – Look, you're a 10-win team. What do you do? If you keep Geno next year, you're going to win enough games that you're not in the quarterback sweepstakes

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and then you're just kind of stuck. Like you can never fully commit to a rebuild at the quarterback position. The fact that they won 10 games and they've got a new head coach this year that wants to improve and get better, I can't imagine that they would look to kind of start over and rebuild. Is he? I don't know. He has one more year. One more year. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you guys are probably right. I don't know how happy DK Metcalf was with this season. It's a pretty rough one for Metcalf. JSN had the breakout. Tyler Lockett wants to keep playing, and we know they re-upped him money-wise.

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The thing for DK is if everyone on the team is having a terrible, terrible year, then you go, well, it's the quarterback, it's the offense, it's the team. But one of the wide receivers had a true breakout year, so DK's got to look in the mirror and figure out what happened. The cap hit for Tyler Lockett's $30 million. What? What have they done? So he will be gone. He will be cut. What? Yeah, dead cap. Oh, that's not the dead cap. Dead cap is only $4 million. Okay. Cap hit is $30. So that's a you have to restructure if you want to stay.

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Yep. And Blake Corum on the other side should get the opportunities at running back for the Rams. Jimmy Hansel himself getting the start. Hasn't taken a snap all year. That's Jimmy Garoppolo. I can't believe he's still in the league. Yep. Yeah. When Jimmy Garoppolo and Carson Wentz are getting snaps, that's a fun week in the NFL. Puka Nakua, they need to sit him down. Yeah. So maybe some Jordan Winnington. Maybe. Maybe some Tutu Atwell. Tyler Johnson action. Yeah. Miami's 8-8. The Jets are 4-12. The DraftKings Sportsbook line Miami minus one. Even though it's a must win for Miami, the over-under is 39 and the line is indicative of a quarterback issue.

25:17 ↗

We're going to have Snoop Huntley. Pro Bowler. Yeah. 2023 Pro Bowler. I believe I read something about Huntley's like started at whatever it is. Oh, yeah. Three games in four years. They're always the last game of the season or something like that. Yeah. It's multiple years of week 17s. They got to win. But if they win and the Chiefs manage to pull off the upset against Denver, which is, it's always possible with a rookie quarterback behind center. You know, things change. That one, I'm not going almost upset, but it's close. I do think, I think the Chiefs will cover. I mean, they're a 15-1 team and it's not just because of Patrick Mahomes and they can't sit everybody.

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They're good. Non-Pro Bowler Patrick Mahomes. That makes me, you know, it's so weird how Patrick Mahomes has turned into a heel for everybody. Yes. Because, like, it makes me happy that he didn't make the Pro Bowl. But I've always loved Patrick Mahomes. He's awesome. Yeah, yeah. You just get tired of it. You do. You do get a little bit tired of it. And it's 3,900 yards and 26 touchdowns. Yeah, that is definitely part of it. If he was out there throwing 5,050, Joe Burrow, yeah, we would love him. Come on, step it up. If he was an MVP candidate, for sure.

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And look, I don't have anything against the Chiefs, but you do. You get a little bit tired of it. You do. And you now watch the games with the filter of bad calls. Like, it's in my head. Yeah. The complaining has biased me. Because it seems like they get better calls. Yeah. It's the absence of the offense. I mean, we're just a couple years removed from 5,200 yards and 41 touchdowns. Oh, my gosh. And then the last two years, he's right at the same numbers. About 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns. Like this. No Tyreek. There's no Tyreek for the first one of those.

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The big one. They figured it out. The 5,200. Yes. Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's crazy. It's so weird. They found a way to just manufacture victories. They're like, it's easier this way. Well, Kelsey isn't the same player. So, really, now you're at the point where it's no Tyreek, no Kelsey. Yeah, and their defense is good. You need a superstar. Well, I mean, if Rasheed Rice had played the whole year, I wonder what his numbers would be. And worthy. I mean, if you go, you better stop him this year, NFL. Because you go into next year, and you've got Rasheed Rice back, Xavier Worthy maturing.

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You have Rice at some point. Right. No Tua. A-Chan, his rushing yard line is 49 and a half. How do you feel about A-Chan? I don't feel great about him in the games without Tua. He has not been that involved. We've talked about it. He's not the type of back that can go against heavy stack boxes. So, on the ground, rushing-wise, I think I would take the under there. You're hoping that he can get enough receptions. But the receptions, again, have been coming with Tua. So, A-Chan is a guy that you're probably playing in the landscape of this week. They're in a must-win matchup, and he's extremely talented.

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But I'm holding my breath, and, you know, like, he's not in my DraftKings lineup. If you get to choose from the whole player pool, I'm not expecting a big game from him. What about the wide receivers with Snoop Huntley? Tyreek had a good game last week. Do you think they need to win? Johnny Smith, of course, the tight end four on the year. And doesn't Johnny have to play every snap in the game to get that money? He's trying to do a Greg Olsen impression. Yeah, they just got to win this one. Has he thought about playing center? Devontae Adams' reception line, five and a half.

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The Jets are just – their aura, their stink aura has an aura. Like, it's double aura. Like, Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he plays anymore. Like, this could be – Who wants – Who would sign him? You exchange the trouble that Rodgers is for the value is on the field. Yes. And when that no longer becomes the equation of, like, yeah, I can tolerate all of that because I'm getting all of this on the field. Because I'm going to get four wins. Yeah, if you stink on the field and stink off the field, it might be time to walk away.

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And he said, I'm more resigned to the reality of the situation. I think there's going to be change here. He knows that it's probably his last game. Yeah. At least with the Jets. Brees Hall's the RB 18. There's always the Browns, Andy. Yeah, there is. They'll make mistakes after mistakes. You know, because that's a stink comparison chart. Mm-hmm. And Aaron Rodgers is a breath of fresh air compared to Deshaun Watson. That is actually crazy. But having them both in the locker room at the same time, that's what you need for a Super Bowl. Get the cameras in there. Oh, hard knocks.

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Hard knocks. Watson and Rodgers. Oh, man. That'd be too much. Oh, man. With Jameis. Bring Jameis back to be the third. Get Jameis in that locker room. I'll sign up for a new subscription. The new hard knocks channel. I'll pay for that. Brees Hall, Jason. RB 18 on the year. Entering 2025 next season. Final year of a rookie deal. He's an RB too. Are you laughing about Brees? I'm laughing. Jason's. Just because everything, like, it's tied to Jason? The way that this man passionately loved Brees Hall. Yeah. Like, literally, like one of his own children. That is the amount of care and love that Jason had for Brees Hall.

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And now. And it felt like it paid off too. He was the running back four last year. He was unbelievably great. So exposed. Such a good pass catcher. And I don't know how much is the Jets or the identity or Rodgers or how much is Brees. But he doesn't look that great. Does this. Is this a Tennyson. Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Yeah. It was a good run. Yeah. I'm happy I loved Brees last year. Garrett Wilson. Are we. Are we cool with these wide receivers for the Jets this week? The Adams.

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Yeah. Because Rodgers. You know Adams will be going for numbers. Yeah. He's going for greatness. Are we. Like where is. There was all that chatter about the 500th touchdown. Yeah. He didn't throw a touchdown. So that means it's still chattering. So the next touchdown for Aaron Rodgers should be his 500th. I believe. Well I'm just trying to figure it out. Is it actually. I mean. I can't imagine that it's not. Because they talked about it ad nauseum. Last week. Devante Adams came out said he wanted to catch his 500th touchdown. Oh I think I. I think I know what's going on.

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Our. Our personal game logs on the fantasy football. Yeah we're limited to 10 years. We go to. We go to 2009. And. He's at 499 right now. Okay. So. I mean. The fact that you want. You want to bet a touchdown. Devante Adams. They might try to force the issue there. Yeah. And what. What a great feeling it must be for Garrett Wilson to know that no matter what he does on that route. On the five yard line. That's why. He won't get the football. That's why. You go steal it. You just run. Run the same route. You play DB.

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You cut your route right under his fade. And you go get that touch. You know. You know where the ball's going. Or he gets the target and just slaps the ball down. No 500. Wow. What a dysfunctional situation. Here are a couple of non-playoff teams playing football. The 49ers at 6 and 10. The Cardinals at home at 7 and 9. The DraftKings Sportsbook line. Arizona minus 4. Over under 42 and a half. Cardinals favored. Brock Purdy out. The Pastronaut. Back in. Revenge game. Oh my gosh. Josh Dobbs. Yeah. Josh Dobbs. The Cardinals defense could be a sneaky play this week against Dobbs.

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But Murray. Harrison. I don't hate Harrison this week. I think if there was one thing you'd want to get going in Arizona at home. You want to get him going. Did you see he made a contested catch last week against the Rams? Did you see that sideline contested? What a guy. It's there. That's the number four overall pick type of stuff. It's there somewhere. Yeah. I will say with Joshua Dobbs. He might be a sneaky play. Because of the rushing? Because of the rushing. He obviously didn't start the full season last year. Had a couple games with Arizona. A couple games with Minnesota.

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But he had five top 12 performances. And those usually came on the back of 41 rushing yards. 55 rushing yards. 48 rushing yards. He runs. And so that. You know. This isn't a scary. You know. Cardinals team or situation. Where you go. I'm like. Oh man. What is the record by Ertz? What's the number? The receptions? Nine more than Brock Bowers. So Bowers is at 108. So is it 116 then? 117. I think it's. I think 117 would break it. Right? Correct. Yeah. 117 would break it. So. Okay. I'm just. You know. It's not likely. But it's not impossible for Trey McBride.

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To steal it? McBride's only four receptions behind Brock Bowers. Didn't that happen with like. Evan Ingram got so close. Evan Ingram tried last year. No, no, no, no, no. There was the year that like. Oh, that's right. No, it was Kittle. Kittle broke it. And then Kelsey broke it right after. Yes. Or Ertz. I don't remember. No, it was Kittle and Kelsey. I believe. Yeah, it was. Where Kittle set the record for yardage at the tight end position. Earlier in the day. He held it for a couple hours until Kelsey broke it. So in this game, are you. You know.

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Do you have confidence with. I mean, Kittle's not been practicing. Purdy is out. Dobbs is starting. I like Garendo. Because I think they'll just give him the ball a bunch. And the matchups there for him. And then Juwan Jennings. Sure. Jennings. Pearsall and Jennings. You could spot start. Yeah. With fear and trembling. Yeah. With Dobbs. With Dobbs there. I'm kind of fine with Dobbs himself. As because of his rushing. I'm not really loving playing. Pearsall or Jennings or Devo. All right. We'll take a break. We'll hit the. Exciting Sunday night football game. I have one question for you, Mr. Moore.

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How bad does Jason want this game? I want this game. This. This is the game, man. You're talking about the highest over under that we've seen in a long time. two teams that are in division. 14 wins. Playing for a bye or on the road week one of the playoffs. Minnesota. Detroit. I want this game. You want this. You know who this game is more important for? By far. Minnesota. I don't know if Minnesota goes on the road and wins. With Sam Darnold in the playoffs. But I think the Lions would. The Lions have been great on the road. So, to me.

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I've been thinking about this game all week. It's hard to predict Minnesota is going to win by going to Detroit and doing it. I think it's going to be a great game. It's a two and a half point line on the DK Sportsbook. Both teams got to have it. I did. You know, I want Aaron Jones healthy. They need him for this game to be a game. They do. Mm-hmm. I did take the Vikings personally. I think I'm on that side. I think the Vikings. I think they win. I'm not calling cover. I'm going win. I think they win. And, you know, if they played a month ago pre all of the extra Lions injuries.

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Yeah. The Lions were the best team in the league. Yeah, their defense. Listen to these numbers the last six weeks. 32nd against quarterbacks. 29th against wideouts. 18th against running backs. 15th against tight ends. And, you know, they can definitely win this ballgame. They're favored, obviously. They can win it. They also, I think, have the – they're going to have the more fluid offense at home. It's just a matter of will the Minnesota defense, the difference between their defense and the Lions be enough? Well, the Minnesota defense has not been good in the secondary. That's still one we've targeted. It's very difficult to run on them over the course of the season.

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