Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Bruce Wayne, Alfred, and MMMBop - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/7

Some shoes fell off, though. Oh. Yeah. Stinkers of the Week, presented by odor eaters. Wasn't one shoe. No. It was both shoes. It was all the cleats in his locker were stolen. Mm-hmm. The pants. The shirt. He was Daffy Ducking out there. Justin Herbert, they got shut out. Yeah. Two interceptions, no touchdowns, under 50% passing. I have.

Not that the Los Angeles offensive line is like they're the best unit in the NFL or anything. But what happened? How was Bill Belichick figured? How did he figure out how to just completely dismantle the offensive line? Because look, the shoes, they fell off this week. I readily admit that. But what happened to the offensive line?

The one thing about Bill Belichick and rookie quarterbacks is it's not always, it's what kind of pressure gets into the head of a rookie. And he disrupted Herbert and it disrupted the entire game plan. I don't, you know, this is nothing to be ashamed about Justin Herbert. Sure. Like this is, rookies don't run off what you've done. You're on the precipice of breaking records. But Bill Belichick, that defense.

You're going to have some bad games. Every rookie has bad games. Every quarterback has bad games. And you've got Atlanta next week. Then you have Las Vegas. If you're leaning on Justin Herbert, I'm not pivoting to the...

Anywhere else. I agree. The upcoming schedule says he should be fine. All players have bad games. And if I remember anything from quarterbacking in fantasy or in flag football. Right, which is highly relevant, go on. It's relevant in the sense that when you start to get down and you get down and you get down, then you've got to make more dumb throws. You've got to stress yourself. You're not going to lean on the running game down 28 to nothing. Was it like the...

gambler, a fallacy of gambling. I got to double down now. There's not a lot of time left in the game. You got to go deep. Yeah, you made some mistakes. Also, you talked about the offensive line like it was a problem. The offensive line was the best looking thing I've ever seen if you put them next to their special teams. I have never in the history of watching football, maybe in the history of actual, the NFL long before I was born, has there been a worse?

performance by a special teams unit of all time. I mean, you had blocked field goals, you had punts and kicks returned. Gunner on a jet ski returned a couple of kicks. It was if, I mean, they won the game on special teams. You say, how did, how did, you know, how did Cam only throw for 95 yards and they score? 69 yards. Oh my gosh, 69 yards, you know, and they score 45 points, special teams.

Carson Wentz was bad. Is bad. What else is new? Derek Henry in the most impactful bad performance that you could have. He had a fumble. 15 for 60, no touchdowns. This was, if you didn't watch the game, the beginning of the first half of this game, the Browns came out and just, you know, put up 30.

38 points in the first half. 38 points of the first half. And that's how you can start to game script Derek Henry. And I don't anticipate, even with a bad defense in Tennessee, I don't think that this is going to be something that happens regularly, being down almost 40 points in the first half. You don't think Mike Glennon's going to run it up on him next week? I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. Derek Henry is a, sorry this happened to you. Yeah. Hopefully it didn't cost you your playoffs.

and play him next week. However, Miles Sanders. What is happening? 10 for 31, no touchdowns, one target. What is happening? Well, when you have a chance to play Jordan Howard ahead of Miles Sanders, you got to take it, right? Yeah. Let's help be sympathetic with Philadelphia fans right now in the sense that there's a lot going wrong in Philadelphia. Fair?

Yes, that's fair. There's a lot going wrong. There's a coach on the hot seat. Now, this coach decides during the week, I'm going to sit down. I'm going to try to solve the problem. I'm going to try to solve the problem and fix this team. Yeah. And at the end of the day, what was written on the whiteboard was activate Jordan Howard from the practice squad and then give him significant work. Is that right? Well, on top of that, though, was let my really bad quarterback.

be the entire offense and not give the ball to Miles Sanders. Like, it's, what is happening? What are you doing? Look, this is why I didn't like Miles Sanders. Yeah, no, you, you were, you were spot on on that one. I thought he would get more work. It's like if you're in a bog, how fast can you run, right? Like, everything around you is bad, and the variables of quarterback changes, bad. Let me ask you this. Offens of line problems.

If Jalen Hertz is announced as the starter, is it better or worse for Miles Sanders? It's irrelevant to me on whether or not I start him. Next week against New Orleans, I'm benching Miles Sanders. I'm not playing him. I don't blame you. I mean, the matchup is terrible. And if you look at his fantasy points over the last, you know, since returning from the week nine by, week 10, he had 12.5 fantasy points. Week 11, 7.6, week 12, 5.2 this last week.

3.1, and that was while every single week the snap percentage goes down. Now you've got a horrifically bad matchup. Three running backs are being used. Boston Scott's being used. The hardest part about Miles Sanders is this. Offseason hype was tremendous. Validated the hype on his first two starts. And you know what the mental impact of those first couple games is on your offseason thoughts and beliefs. So he validated them all to be a superstar.

really had a nice five-week stretch when they were okay. It wasn't just the first two weeks. I mean, it was until he got injured before the buy week, he was... He was doing great. He was great. Yeah. But at this point, it's just a matter of, are you willing to let go of that impression for the future? He's not a bad player. He's a great player. The team is in a tailspin, and it makes it difficult to lean on them. And if Jalen Hertz is the starter, I don't...

Whatever gets the ball closer to that whole end zone area is better for the team because it's more opportunities. But do we have any confidence on a goal line carry that Miles Sanders is getting the football? Very minimal. Yeah, I got a little. I think he should and he could, but Jordan Howard. He should and he could. Jordan Howard could very well go out there and do what he did in Miami. One for one in a touchdown. Yeah. And then New Orleans next week is just.

with a rookie potentially starting. Now, Doug Peterson, just to update the news, he did come out and say, he said the famous line that coaches say right before they're fired, which is, I got to go to the tape, I got to check out the injuries, I got to see what happened on film before I make a decision on my starter. So, which I believe is the same line maybe Hugh Jackson gave us. Yep, I remember that. When Tyrod Taylor was handing the ball off to. And then Baker came in and let the.

world on fire and won the game. And he's like, I got to go check the tape. I'm not sure who was better. I'm not playing Jalen Hertz against New Orleans next week either. If there's another, you know, New Orleans defense, even without Jenkins this week was outstanding. I think it's a no Eagles week. Okay. A no eagle week. I think it's a no eagle week. Is that including Dallas God? I think it's including Dallas Goddard. Yeah, new quarterback. Don't know the rapport. Zach Earts active again.

I think it's a full no eagle week. We'll see. Stay tuned. Fly away. Austin Echler is in the stinkers. Yeah. Look, when your quarterback's shoes are off. Yeah. He can't get the traction. The footing to check it down enough. Yeah, I mean, he was on the field. You're going to start him against Atlanta next week. Move on. Clyde Edwards impaired. Tommy troubles, zero snaps, but active. You knew it was a possibility with...

with the illness. I am concerned, though. I don't think you can play him in your fantasy playoffs because even last week, Lev Bell seemed to be getting the carries that are associated with higher trust earlier in the game. Third down work. I think you can start Clyde when he's back. I'm not worried pretty much at all. What I saw from Lev Bell was I thought he was horrifically bad. And then you saw in the second half of the game, I feel like it was.

They're like, yeah, let's stop using Love Bell. Let's get Daryl Williams out here because he's really not good. So if Clyde was out with a stomach bug, I mean, the week prior, he was great. Yeah, all right. We can be on different sides of that. I'm trying to have some confidence going into my playoffs. I can't possibly have it with. I mean, you know, the schedule is not great with Miami and New Orleans up.

on the docket, but I definitely think he's in play. I don't think he's a must bench. Yeah, that's fine. So the last time we saw Clyde Edwards O'Leary, that game against Tampa Bay, that was his highest running back share of the attempts since Levy on Bell came to the team. Like the game opened up, and we were all going, where is Clyde? Lev Bell is on the field.

But then at the end of the day, when you look statistically, he saw nearly 70% of the rushes. Yeah, and I'm not going to argue with that. I think if you're going to start a running back from that team, every argument can be made for Clyde. But those metrics, percentage of running back share on the chiefs, they betray a little bit of the situation because it's not a huge share. It's Patrick Mahomes. It's handoffs to McColl Hardman around the end. And Tyreek Hill, it just is a little bit of a lower.

A little higher risk variance because the volume isn't there. Yeah, yeah. I can't disagree with the risk. Todd Gurley stinks. Man, nothing to see here. Move on. Les Tavius Murray was not a start. Nope. So hopefully you went with the tried and true Alvin Camara. Devante Booker. That's not the worst. That's not the worst. He's Devante Booker. You know what you were doing. This was a full...

Yeah, I like him. You're responsible for your actions. I like him. No, I mean, the reality is what happened because it was the Jets and Josh Jacob being out and how Booker had looked in several weeks in a row, he opened up the locker and there were big boy pants in there. There were. And he thought they would fit him. They did not fit him. And we thought they would fit him. They did not fit him. It turns out it was his dad's pants. I mean, he didn't. I didn't think they'd fit him. He did not.

have a good game. He didn't destroy you, but he certainly did not belong in big boy pants. No, no, no, no. Cream Hunt had 14 carries. I like that. I don't like the 33 yards. Not getting into the end zone for another week. Baltimore next week. It's not my favorite thing in the whole wide world. You've got Cream Hunt. You've been souring every week a little bit.

more and more sour on your outlook towards Cream Hunt. Yeah, I mean, he's not going to destroy you because he's going to get every single week he's double-digit opportunities, no matter what. But it hasn't been very good for the last few weeks, and you're always waiting for the touchdown or the big play. Nick Chubb's great. So, you know, Kareem Hunt's a guarantee to get you eight points, but that seems like it's like eight to ten right now. And he still has a ceiling. Yes. He has just.

almost as good as anybody out there to have a multi-touchdown game, which is pretty crazy. It just hasn't been happening lately. Yeah. Yep. Well said. He's a RB2 flex consideration. If you're looking next week at Cream Hunt or Clyde, who do you play? I mean, Clyde against Miami after getting zero snaps or Cream Hunt against Baltimore? That's a tough call. Yeah. And you probably get some more news during the week.

That's a man who doesn't want to make a call right now, which is totally fair, because that's how we do it. You don't have to lock them in right now. But Jason, who is it? Who's to make your call right now? This is permanent. Collided or Zlayer. Okay. That's the final answer. Oh, man. Can you imagine being on Millionaire? Is that your final answer? Final answer. Do, do, do.

All right. Your answer might be Wayne Galman, by the way. It might be. C. Wayne Galman. D. Alfred Morris. No, don't do that. Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, not good games. This is, again, trickle-down effect here. Yeah, spoiler alert. Trickle-down Shunomics. Unter-Enry is also in the stinkers. The chargers were not good. Yeah, 20 targets between Alan and Williams, nine catches on the 20 targets. The charger scored zero points. Yeah.