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Week 7 Studs & Duds + Brown Tent, Ready to Roll - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/21

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Week 7 Studs & Duds + Brown Tent, Ready to Roll | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1659

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Week 7 recap yields a large Monday-Punday nickname bank, the yellow/brown injury-tent gag, and crew reactions to delayed jokes.

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Oh, yeah, because Jaden didn't, Jayden didn't say. I was like, what? Oh, yeah, Jaden Daniels got injured. What an idiot. I bet they were really close. I bet they were super close and Jane barely played. Because Jaden ripped up like a 50 yard run right. You had to look it up. You couldn't just like, you couldn't just know you had to verify. I really, yeah. Yeah. He is, I think the quote was unproven, inaccurate, overdrafted. Richardson has all the potential in the world. And I don't want to dogg on him and not dog on Stroud or somebody like that. The problem with Richardson was the mathematical equation for fantasy success in fantasy is extremely proven by history. You don't have top 10 finishers at the quarterback position that don't complete 60% of their passes. That's like a nice bar for you. Like if you go back historically,

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Unless you're the special Jalen Hurts tier where he was 59% and ran at a bunch, like it's just very, very hard. You have to thread the needle. And so Richardson was going to have to prove accuracy before anything else. The accuracy needed to be at a level where you were going to sustain week-to-week success. Richardson will not have games this bad every single week of the year if he continues to start. He will have good games. He will connect with Alec Pierce on two bombs in a game. He will hit Adnanai Mitchell down the field. But we watched every snap of this football game. Oh, man. And our eyes were rolling into the back of our head on simple screens, outroutes, plays across the middle. He had good throws in this game. He completed 10 passes. And some of those were downfield throws where you're like, maybe he's even better throwing it downfield. Like I think the math is saying his completion percentage downfield is actually a little bit better than the basic screen game. Richardson's just in a position now where you're like, if you're the Colts.

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You have eight difficult matchups with teams that can score points coming up. Can Richardson get you there? And does it matter? Like, are you willing to not go to the playoffs? Yes. I think they are. To take the steps necessary with this guy. Yeah, I mean, they've got to develop him. They've got to develop him. They've got to figure stuff out. His potential and his physical attributes are in the NFL right now. They're literally second to none. He's more athletic than Josh Allen. He is a freak of nature. He does need to learn to run out of bounds. What's crazy? Oh, I know. He's like running down the field, has a nice pickup, and then he decides to shoulder check the corner. That's not. It's going to hurt you, man. It's going to hurt you. He's never been hurt yet. Oh, oh, wait. No, the data says, oh, he's injured a lot. Three times. Yeah, a lot. Okay, so I do think he gets better. I think they will work some of that stuff out, figure out how to.

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play towards his strengths more and more as the season goes along. I'm not going to have that happen on my fantasy roster while it happens on the Colts roster for the next little while. All right. At running back, I want to, I'm going to bring up some names that struggled this week and I want you to tell me worried, not worried, or panic alarm. Okay? Alvin Camara. Not worried. Not worried. Really? Yeah, I mean, you're going to get Derek. No quarterback. Well, do we have an update on Derek Carr's injury timelines? Chris Olavee. They said, I mean, we'll have to see if he practices this week and is progressing in protocol. But what they said last week was it didn't appear to be a long thing. I expect Chris Oliva back. Derek Carr is a big question mark because while it's Spencer Rattling. I thought it was a four weeks span was the estimate originally. Am I wrong about that? Yeah. They obviously didn't put him on an IR. Week 9 is the likely availability according to Dennis Allen. He said it on Friday. So one more game. Yeah.

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So one more. We're heading into week eight right now. I'm not too worried about. I'm not worried about. Would you go acquire him? I mean, if I needed running back help, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I might do it. This is the time to do it. He could get traded. He's the only player that the Saints can. He's not getting traded. He's the only player they can trade and save cap space trading. And they are two and five now. I don't think they'd probably be two and six. Yeah. And so, you know, if you want to trade for. They got Kendry Miller back. Alvin Camara, you know.

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They're on the road against the Chargers. The Chargers play an ugly brand of football. They're not winning that game. They're not winning that game. And I don't think Camara's going to be great. So maybe wait one more week and then go try to trade for Camara when right before car comes back. Jordan Mason did not get into the end zone. Worried, not worried? No, no worry. He got stopped on the one. He's an expiring asset at some point. Yeah, yeah, of course. But for like against Dallas next week. Rahim Mostert? Worried, not worried? Uh, A little excited, to be honest. I think he's looked good on a per touch basis. I should have given that as an option. We're not worried, excited. Yeah, I mean. The duds, we're excited for the duds. Oh, it's the dolphins. Against these stacked boxes, the last two games for Mostert 4.2, 4.5 a carry. He's looked okay, and now Tua comes back. Ramandre Stevenson? So Gibson got hurt in the game. Remandre, it was not a surprise.

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once Sunday morning happened, but it was a surprise the way that the week had trended, that all of a sudden at the end it was, oh, no, Romandry's actually going to play. But clearly he was still dealing with his own injury recovery. So did you see the overall? See the comments by head coach? No, give them to me. We're a soft team. We're a soft football team. Oh, that's not going to. We can't run the ball. Challenging the manliness of the team. Can't run the ball. Can't stop the run. Then I saw the gift of the weird. We're all trying to figure out who did this. I mean, you're the head coach. Nothing like calling out your players. It's gone really well in New England. No one's even going to the football games. Trey Sermon, disastrous. Devin Singletary, Tyrone, Tracy. Terrible performances. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you can, I don't know where the worry level should be because we still don't know how well this or how the running backs time share is going to go. Two backs on a bad offense, though.

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If it's a time sharing about. If it's a full split like this where Singletary is getting five carries and Tracy's getting six, that's that won't work. Austin Eckler barely got used. Yeah, under 50% of snaps, apparently Brian. Brian Robinson, he fine. And he was very good. Well, you know, I mean, Sticky McNacles was getting in there. Yeah, they talked, I like that. I never heard Sticky McNichols, but I like it. Oh, I do too. I don't know. Is it a reference? No, it's just, it just sounds good. Yeah. No, I'm in. But he got seven carries. McNichols, they've been talking about him after his. That's not a dog food brand, by the way. That's just a funny nickname. Got it. Thank you. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, this is actually kind of bad news. Sticky Mickey. For Austin Echler because it looks like, you know.

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The only running back you're going to be able to trust there is Brian Robinson. It's so good. Eckler had been playing so well. I don't know. That whole, that situation is weird. They also, the game was out of hand. Maybe McNichols got more snaps because Eckler's the second guy up and that's happened before. Stefan Diggs and Tank Dell. Just to keep there real quick. Brian Robinson has not one single game under 10 fantasy points and half PPR so far this season, including when he's played like 34% of snaps. I've always thought he's a good player. I mean, you want to talk about running hot with touchdowns. Oh, yeah. He's at six rushing touchdowns already. It's a good offense. Loves the end zone, Mike. Can you blame him? Can you blame him? Do you remember Cliff Kingsbury's goal line calls? Oh, no, I know. Yeah. Once you're inside the five, we know what's happening. Worried, not worried, panic alarm. Or excited. Tank Dell. Worried, not panic alarm. Mike? Pretty worried. Pretty worried. Pretty worried.

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It's not working right now. Next week against Indianapolis at home, you should start tank down. It has to be better. He is averaging 6.4 fantasy points per game. Yeah, it's been tough sledding. I mean, I have dealt in a lot of places. I feel the anger. He is the same as Ridley. He's having the exact same season as Ridley. I feel the anger and the disappointment. You had, I believe it was week one, the drop touchdown. This last week the drop touchdown. Something is not really clicking. I do think that this is, you know, a Stroud and offense. You look at, you know, what we talked about earlier with Stroud. If he's on the road against a tough defensive matchup, we have yet to see Stroud really go out there and lay a big stat line, pass down the field. That's how they normally, yeah. They normally refer to it. He just lays that stat line out there. Yeah, big stat line.

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I think Diggs and Tankdale at home against Indianapolis and this divisional game. The ends of these shows. Past 60 minutes. Oh, we let everything go? It gets a little frightening. Ballers after dart. I'd be pretty worried about Tankdale. Yeah. And I wonder how Nico is like, makes this whole offense go right now. Diggs has been really bad outside of touchdown opportunities. Devante Smith, one for negative two. This is one of the biggest, most painful. performances of the week in terms of dependency. Oh, yeah, he crushed me a lot of places. But I will say this, he's been very consistent this whole season until that game. Yes. Just throw this one out. Throw it out. Go watch the Saquan Barclay highlights. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's why they never threw the ball to Smith. Malik Neighbors, 4-4-41, first dud of his career. Trade form. Go get him. Devante Adams, nine targets, three-for-30.

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So in the last seven days, according, this was pointed out by someone on Twitter feels better. Lost of the Steelers was traded to a new team, lost to the Steelers all in one week. Did anyone else? And look, I want him to add it. I love him. I love the player. I want him to succeed. But given everything that's going on, the fact that the first target went right to Adams and it was like not a great target, but he could have caught it. Hit him in the hands and he dropped it. I took. What is the? I took great pleasure in that one. I really laughed. The Jets feel like the unhinged fantasy manager right now. Yes. I thought the same thing. I thought the same thing where it's like you're just you're going crazy. You're trading for everything. Just throw stuff at the wall and maybe. Fire the coach. You're two and five. Fire the play caller.

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Yeah, fire them all because it's somebody else's fault. Trade for his best friend. Pay him. Rogers did take responsibility for playing better, but he also said, you know, we got to run better so we can play action pass. We just got to play better. You said Rogers took responsibility for playing better. And I was like, no, he did not. For the need to play better. Sorry, sorry. The other way sounds true, too. He's like, I played well, but we got to run the ball better. How many interceptions does he have? I'm going to give myself some credit. He's got a handful. I mean, one of them in this game was not his fault. So in the last three games, he's thrown six interceptions. So how many more wide receivers do you need from free agency and trades to be? I mean, you think about it. Lazard Adams, Wilson, Mike Williams. Kong, con, conk, conk.

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Brees Hall in the passing game. Just needs Jefferson. Getting blown out by Russell Wilson and his debut. It's funny because their offense looked pretty good early in the game. They got out to a lead. They looked like they were going to control the game. Going down before the half, they had that pass to Garrett Wilson. They hit him in the chest and popped up. And then next thing you know, the game was out of hand in the other direction. You know who they need? They need a defensive-minded head coach. They got to bring in there. Someone like with a former history of success, like Robert Sala, who's out there.

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Jaden Reed, big time dud. Yeah, I'm not worried about it. Two for 10. Christian Watson, send him back to the waiver wire, one for nine. This is what I get for having a slight belief on him on Waver Day. Tyree Kale won for eight. No. Jalen Wattle, one for 11. Not worried. It was painful. Johnny Smith, by the way, 20 fantasy points. Deonté Johnson, one for 17, Xavier Legate. I don't think I'm worried about Deontay, but I am a little worried about the pumpkining of. Andy Dalton. Oh, you mean the hair color? No. Oh, I mean about the metaphor referring to the story of Cinderella where at midnight, the magic goes away. It's not an orange joke. The clock has struck. But he would, he would pumpkin better than others. Well, they're playing against Denver on the road in Denver this next week. That is not good for Dalton. No, he is. That's a bad football team. That's a really bad football team.

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Josh Downs, one for three. You will be able to trust how many receivers with Anthony Richardson? Zero. Trust? You could play them. Jameson Williams, one for negative four. Dude. What? What? But don't worry. The lines looked amazing on offense again. So weird. Yeah, I mean, they've got a lot of weapons and it's not always going to be everyone's day. It's like the Gibbs and Monty thing. You know, Monty's had his games and Gibbs has his games. Gibbs was 160 yards and two touchdown. Yeah, but James and Sam Leporta combined for three targets and two receptions. Yeah, it was not great, but the Minnesota defense is very, very good. Kelsey Leporta, freaking stupid son of a gun, Evan Ingram, and Dalton Kincaid. Evan Ingram, by the way, our parley partay. Dude.

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Listen to me, I'm not doing it over the rest of the year. You can just count on that. Evan Ingram, I had 40 yards. He had four for 34 in the early second quarter. He had two and a half quarters to gain six yards. He ends five for 35. I had Gino over 250. He had 180 yards at the half. He's on pace for 360 passing yards. Hadn't he done 250 or more every game? He had done it for like five straight games. And then in the second half, he had around 20 passing yards. We're taking the unders this week, boys? You're darn right. Triple unders, man. Pick who you hate and bet them. I'd say pick who you love and bet against them. Where are you guys with Leporta? Leporta is certainly, I mean, he's a guy that you can start every week because he's part of a good offense, but he's not. He is not like. He's averaging.

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Just over two catches a week. This is why I wanted David Njoku. This is why I look at David, David Nijoku as a top three tied in the rest of the season, is you need to manufacture volume from your tied in position. The Leportas and the Kincades and even Kelsey to some extent are not getting enough volume where Ingram and Njoku and Bowers are getting the ball every week. We are heading into, you know, month three. of the season. We've got a lot of data. Andy, without looking, Sam Leporta is the tight end to what? Without looking, I would say 17. 18. Okay. I was just a guess. You were way off. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's... I mean, would you rather have him or Kincade rest of you? That's what I'm saying. Like, I think a real Leporta conversation needs to happen. We're six games in for them, and it's...

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We're very far removed now from last year's number one overall finish. We haven't seen anything close to that. He's averaging nearly half the points per game of last year. He's still on the field. I mean, this was his highest snap count of the year, 95%. But the offensive system, they can run the football so well. For the archetype of the way that he's being used right now, it could change. But it's like Sam Laporta or Tucker Kraft. moving forward. Yeah, I mean, Kraft was three for 33. He got in the end zone. But that, I'm saying that, because that's who Kraft is for that offense. He's a low volume guy and just, he's going to live off of receiving touchdowns. So is Leporta, apparently. Okay. How about this for a stat? Who has more targets? Because targets, we talk about this all the time. Andy, you, you especially, like, targets are what we want for all the receiving positions. That's, that's the, like, behind, you could go behind behind the scenes of targets per route run, first downs per route run, all this stuff. But like,

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Who is getting targets? That's going to pay off. Just raw targets that's going to pay off. Who has more targets this season? Sam Laporta or Mark Andrews, who we have all hated, who's getting one for nothing? Yeah, I mean, no way. Mark Andrews has more targets than Sam Laporta. Who has more targets? Eric All Jr., rookie for the Bengals or Sam Laporta. He has got to be a trick. It's Eric All. Eric All had a good run there. How about Johnny Munt? Oh, dude, Munt was doing work this week. Yeah, he's got more as well. I mean, they've got one more. But who has more targets? Evan Ingram, who's played in two games? No. Or Sam Leporta. Your best tight-in strategy this year isn't to find a good one. It's to hope you play against a fellow bad one. That's about how it's evening now. Could you take a Sam Leporta plus something and go like trade for Brock Bowers?

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No. No one's doing it. Unless that's something is Jamar Chase, you're not getting it done. Brock Bowers is probably untouchable. All right. Here's your top five tight ends in targets. Brock Bowers leading the league. Yeah. He's got 60. Second place is George Kittle with 42. That's the guy. Outrageous. Third place, Hunter Henry. Yeah. Fourth, Tray McBride, and fifth? Kyle Pitts. Wait, Team McB is fourth, and he hasn't even played this week? That is correct. Nice. Yeah, I mean, it'd be. If he gets four targets, he will be second. All right. Well, there you go. Kittal and Pitts. Kittal and Pitts is the answer. Two games left tonight. If you're bored and you want to follow along, Mike's got Mark Andrews, J.K. Dobbins, and Marvin Harrison. And I've got Harrison's quarterback, Kyler Murray. And I need the Ravens to score. Let me finish. Oh, I thought you were finished. Tyler Murray and James Connor. Oh, I thought you said both. Sorry. And I need the Ravens defense to score fewer than nine.

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Fantasy points. No pick, no pick six, laser. What league is that? The league of record. To win? To win, yeah. I'm up by nine. So, laser, don't let me down. That's all you need? I need the race. Yeah, thank you. Laser. I need, I need laser to not turn the ball over. Don't take sacks, throw it away, score a lot of points. Waiver show tomorrow, streaming quarterback options as well. We'll talk to you then. Thanks for listening. Goodbye. you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the ff ballers