Week 3 Matchups + Packers in Peril, Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/25

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. I really wanted to hit you with a, it's garbage time. We did have some of that. Friday, September 18th, the fantasy footballers podcast, Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway back with you. Great show for you today.

Jumping back into the fantasy forecast, more matchups. We've got the wheel of shame. We've got our fantasy face off. We have news, injuries, Foot Clan Friday, Packer panic in the streets. 35 to 14. What a difference that not Cooper Rush makes. Yeah, I mean, we had talked about that. Like, you cannot, you can't say that Drake London is bad or, you know, that the Falcons are.

what we saw those first two weeks. Also, the Packers are very bad. I mean, let's go to, let's go to resident Packer fan. Oh, yeah, Gerr, how you do. Oh, wait a minute. He's doing it. He's doing an impression. Oh, where is he? Oh, Papa Josh is the feeling. He's fake crying. Al isn't even here. He, um, I think he's taken a day for, it's a mental health day for him. He did have Howard. He had a note in our Slack channel last night.

Because he had to go watch a performance. He lives and breathes the Packers. Yes, he is a diehard Packers fan. And he said, fortunately, I couldn't watch the game. Probably saved my life. Well, I mean, I'll tell you who, you know, Jordan loves not long for the NFL with the way the offensive line is playing. He's been sacked more than anybody through three games. And a lot of them are like comically ragdoll type of sacks. I mean, you look at this game and then you're like,

Jordan Love attempted 53 passes. More than double the amount of passes Michael Pinnock Jr. had. Oh, but that's because the running backs combined for 17 yards or sorry, that's not even right. 16 yards. No, 17 yards on 8 carries. Marshawn Lloyd, Caleb Johnson. I mean, the offensive line is making its impact across the board. The soothsayers out there.

calling for the Caleb Johnson breakout game. Nope. Nope. The Tucker Kraft breakout game. A. Nope. Nope. But don't worry. Sky Moore got seven targets. Tucker Kraft. The epitome of fantasy football here of game environment ended up sensational. 53 pass attempts. Opportunity for Tucker Kraft. Eight targets. Your tight end got eight targets. Oh, that's very exciting.

Except he caught what? Four of them. Four of them for how many yards? 26. And one of the catches, Mike, was one of the grossest passes I've ever seen thrown. It was a basically lateral. That one didn't count as a pass, did it? That was a backwards pass. That's not a rush attempt. He'd be in rush attempts. He caught the ball. It was one of his four catches. That is generous. It was a tipped ball that went flying sideways. He caught it. He dropped two passes, which by the way, he only dropped three.

The three is the most he's dropped in a year. And he dropped two last night. Yeah, he's not. He's not back. He's not back to full strength. I mean, this is in the off season I was saying he was kind of off my board at ADP because I don't want the slow start. However, I fully expect Kraft to be awesome this year. Like he is very involved. He's very good. He's just, he's working his way back, you know, to full health, full strength. And they've got to figure out this offensive line. Can Michael Parsons play right tackle? I'm sure he can. I'm sure he can. I bet if on the list of things he could figure out.

How about 194 yards rushing by Bijon and 194 yards receiving by Drake London? Baby, it is more than five yards from Kyle Pitts. They hogged them all. Kyle Pitts won for five. I'm still winning that trade, boys. Epic, tight end failure. But, I mean, there was so much fantasy goodness in this one, the Falcons guys. Matthew Golden, 101, delightful. Christian Watson, my guy.

A little bit. Maybe, maybe some stinky. I don't care. We got 96 and a touchdown out of Christian Watson. So overall, I mean, Tucker Kraft, getting the eight targets and doing nothing, major, major disappointment, but it couldn't be overall, overall pretty good for fantasy. Couldn't be more over for Marshawn Lloyd. It, yeah, I mean, he's.

He's not that good. And I wonder, you know, I've been saying. Yeah, I know what you're going to say. I've been saying Josh Jacobs. They need Josh Jacobs desperately. Here's the truth. They need a running game desperately. The last time we have seen Josh Jacobs with this team, they had a great running game. So I keep saying they just need Josh Jacobs back and they really do. They need a running back that can get it done. The question is, can Josh Jacobs get it done with this offensive line?

because right now they've got some big issues to figure out. Yeah, this was a nightmare for, I mean, you were very lucky that Golden and Watson, if you had them, you got the big games considering how bad everything else went for the Packers. You know, Jordan Love, garbage time to his, Jordan Love, 300 yards, two touchdowns. You're okay. That's fine. And I don't really lay a lot at the feet of Jordan Love. I mean, it's just, it's a discombobulated offense through and through. They're not doing anything well. They should be 0.3.

They should be 0 and 3. They were very fortunate to come back and win against the Jets. And yeah, it's Friday. Put Clan Friday. Every week on Friday, we give $100 away via gift card to one of our supporters. And if you're over at Jointhefoot.com, we appreciate you. Today's winner, Bamsy pants. Sure. Why not? Sure.

Yeah, bamsy pants with the dub. That's cool. Sometimes I feel like they're just, I know we randomly choose winners, but sometimes I feel like you don't randomly choose them. Wow. You just give me something funny to say. Our people are funny. They are. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Commanders General Manager Adam Peters said the team is optimistic about Jane Daniels returning in 2026. As of right now, surgery and IR are not on the table. As of right now. Now.

I heard one report saying he might miss as few as one game. TBD, but we were saying we were waiting for some news here. Looks like they're trying to get him back as soon as possible. All right. Well, look, DJ Moore downgraded to do a DMP on Thursday. Kean Coleman's still out. This is not a great situation. You don't want to go backwards in terms of designations during the week. So maybe DJ Moore is going to miss another week.

They take on the chargers at home. Keown Coleman would have been a nice, hey, give him a shot. But the truth is, you probably could do worse than Khalil Shakir this week. Kalil Shakir is a PPR option. And Dalton Kincaid continues to look like one of the steals of the draft. Nico Collins did not practice, not practicing today or Thursday. Jalen Koker, he had been downgraded to a DMP. That was weird. But was seen at practice today.

Yeah, and it was said that he looked good at practice today. So I think Koker should be fine. Xavier Leggett was also back, right? Yes. So there you go. Caleb Douglas will not play this week for the Dolphins, the one receiver that looked like he had anything going. He's going to miss some time. Chris Bell expected to play this week. Okay. Adonai Mitchell, who got a lot of attention on yesterday's show, showed up on the injury report with a fingee injury. Oh, no, my fingey. Got caught it in a jersey.

But they said there's some concern over the injury and he will be limited. I hate that that sounds so nonsense. But it's like, okay, imagine you got your finger stuck in someone's jersey and then it just like dislocated or something. Yeah. Us mortals, we would be out, we'd call out of work for two weeks. Yeah, didn't I break your, like half break your thumb throwing you a football and you were done for the year? Yeah, I was out. You were out. I do think fingers are pretty important for wide receivers to catch the ball. I'm just saying we, we,

We joke about it. You're like, but that's not great. There's concern he may not be able to play. Just more targets for Garrett Wilson. Yeah. Taji Spears did not practice. Tony Pollard returned to practice. Rico Dowdell did not practice. Sam Darnold was upgraded to a full practice for the Seahawks. All right. And then we do have injuries to catch you up on. We'll handle them and tackle them during the forecast. So let's jump right in. Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks.

Yesterday we covered the Chargers, Bills, Panthers, Browns, Jets, Lions, Texans, Colts, Chiefs, Dolphins, Titans, Giants, Bengals, Steelers, Seahawks, Commanders. So if you want to hear those, you can listen to yesterday's episode. We've got seven more matchups to talk through, starting with the New England Patriots, back to one-on-one, taking on the one-on-one Jacksonville, Jaguars. This game's in Jacksonville, the Vegas line. This is an interesting one.

Yeah, I don't know what you guys did with your little, like the pool picks here in the office. This one was a troubling, difficult one for me. The first thing I did was look at the Atlanta Falcons versus the Green Bay Packers. And I was like, come on. Come on. 13 straight home openers. Come on. That's how many of they had won? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. And I was like, Atlanta, there's no way. I'm like, they're going to screw this up. But I'm going to pick the Packers anyways. So that's how I've started. Yeah, well, look, this game.

This one's interesting to me. New England's defense got it together last week. Drake May has not been a fantasy force thus far. Trevor Lawrence slowed down by Denver last week. How do you feel about the two ball throwers in this one? That's exactly what I was just going to say. Even though it's the tougher matchup. I would prefer to play Trevor Lawrence over Drake May. We just haven't seen much good from Drake May since he lost his wide receivers. I mean, that's a

a difficult thing to try to do when you're you know you lost digs you lost booty and then you replaced them with a j brown who you lost drake may is still a very good uh quarterback i i looked at his uh prize picks projection and almost went with it because it you know to me it was like against jacksville you should do what is it um i'll look it up real quick that was this morning when i was looking last all right how nasty

Are you willing to get what the quarterback position versus Drake May? Like, are we saying Gino Smith against the Detroit Lions? Man, that is nasty. Kyler Murray against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Kyler is interesting to me. I currently have Gino projected head of Drake Bay. There's no way I would try Kyler out. The only plays we saw from Kyler were garbage.

then he got hurt okay so you're not going what about gino i don't i don't think i would i think i'd stick with drake may i would as well the players that i would have had 216 and a half passing the players that i would play over may would be kind of those those love affairs we've talked about recently shock and bryce young that where it's like you might have picked them up off of waivers still be rostering drake may brock purdy for sure oh brock party for sure what about stafford against denver man is it is it in denver no i play may

Yeah, I'm going to play. Oh, man. Trevo and Ramondre. Last week, Ramondre had the fumble, so he saw his snaps cut down to 36%. Travo had the big play, but was held in check outside of that. Which of the two would you rather start this week, Mike? Dude, it's impossible. It would have been remandre last week, but he fumbled. This is part of the, it's just a huge problem of you.

You don't know when it will actually be Travion Henderson, at least for now, with the current information. I guess I would play Ramandre. So Trayvion had 60% of snaps last week. How many targets do you think you had? Not enough. Zero is not enough. Zero targets, zero receptions. That's the part of like, how do you put Trayvon in a position where he can succeed? You know, he's the only one that can give you a special run, but he had 16 carries last week.

How do you not give him a couple of screens when you don't have wide receivers? I think they will. I think they'll get him more and more involved. This was his first game back and they were up by so much in that game where, you know, I think it would have been different if it was, you know, a different game script. I did look up the Drake May projection here. 216 and a half passing yards. Yeah, I haven't projected for around 250 and I'm like.

Oh, man. It's so tempting, but at the same time, he just has no one to throw the ball to because they won't put Trevo in the slot. Bayshall Tootin seems like he's the dude. Did you see in our league of record Chris Rodriguez got dumped this morning? The decision has been made. Six opportunities in each of the last two weeks. Parker, Washington seems like the dude. Are you starting another wide receiver, Jason, for Jacksonville? I will say that I think.

A sneaky start is Brian Thomas Jr. in this matchup. You know, when you've got a superstar corner, which the Patriots do have, I don't know necessarily that they will use them in shadow coverage, but oftentimes that lets a quality wide receiver two shine. So this is a matchup where, you know, last year you could throw on the Patriots. Are you calling him a quality wide receiver two? Yeah, I think Brian Thomas Jr. is a quality wide receiver two. You disagree? He's been real bad, man.