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Week 11 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Rapid Cold Takes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/22

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Week 11 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Rapid Cold Takes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/22

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Another done in a row. Adam Thieland, 10 targets, 8 for 82 and a touchdown. The wide receiver 8 on the year on pace for 99 receptions. Brandon Ayuk, 7 targets, 7 for 85 and 1. This was a, in the receiving game, this was a Brandon Ayuk week. Debo only had two targets and he only had one catch. It ended up with a great game because he was 8 for 79 and 1 on the ground. Yeah, I mean, he led the team.

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in all the receiving numbers. I mean, he was their main leading receiver targets, receptions, had the touchdown. Maybe he's, maybe he's back playable. I mean, two wide receiver one performances in the last three weeks. You know the talents there. I obviously love the guy. He was a my guy coming into the year. I believed in the talent. And then the beginning of the year happened. But can you trust him? No, you can't trust him. He can disappear because he can, he's the third.

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He's the third priority in the offense. Kittle and Debo are going to be the priorities game planning wise. But you can put him into your lineup any week and get a performance like this, which you can't do with other wide receiver two, three options and certain teams. So, you know, if I'm looking at A.J. Green or Brandon Ayuk, most weeks I'm going to pick Iyuk because I think the upside and potential is more in his favor. Yeah, seven or more targets in three of his past four.

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games. So I think he's back into, he's just, you can flex him every week. Jalen Waddle, eight for 65, also a touchdown on the ground. He's the wide receiver 20 on the year. I think he is trustworthy as well. You get into the second half of the year here. Elijah Moore, Jalen Waddle. And Tua has looked good. I mean, we got to, we got to say that. I think Tua has looked good. And so if Waddle is their number one guy. Was that a legal requirement you had to say that? Did his lawyers approach you?

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Conscience. It was my conscience. I just, because I've, I've not spoken very highly of Tua. I have not believed that he's going to develop into a franchise quarterback. And I'm still not sure he will. I mean, obviously the, the dolphins have been trying to replace him with Deshaun Watson. But he, he's getting the job done. He's much better than Brissette. And Waddle just seems like a locked in.

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guarantee for so many targets right now. DJ Moore did score, which is always something you track. Five for 50 and one. Tyler Lockett, four for 115, had a couple big plays against Arizona. Russell Wilson looks troubled at the moment. It's costing D.K. Metcalf managers opportunities. Lockett ended up with a big game, and obviously they could break out of that slump at any moment. But, you know, they went from 300 plus passing yards a game down to the one.

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91-80 range on average in the last couple weeks. Zachert's 8 for 88 and 2. Big week for Zach Ernst. It's a bye week for him. Travis Kelsey, Darren Waller, nice weeks. And... And... Take your moment in the sun, Mike. My tight end start of the week. It was improbable. Adam!

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Troutman, eight targets, five for 58 and one, and even left the game with an injury. Five for 58 and a score goes out with a... It was by far his best week of the year. Oh, by far, yes. And like the targets have been going up. The process said, this is a defense that I want to exploit with the tight end position.

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And Adam Traubman comes through, baby. It was amazing to be around Mike during this because, first of all, you both played them in your DFS lineups, and I was thrilled. I mean, I'm looking at the game. I was thrilled too. Jason, were you excited? Ah, soup's thrilled. You had 10 games on the year before this week, never scored more than five fantasy points. And they threw a touchdown to, I think it was Joanne Johnson. Yes. And it got called back. Yep. And they redid the play. And it went to Troutman, and Mike lost his mind.

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Because that was it. Like, after that one play, it was cash. That's a start of the week. If you played at DFS at that price. Oh, yeah. That was it. You were happy. And then, like, tightened screens kept coming. Yeah, he had a great week. It was really nice to see. It was nice to see the continuation of the targets. I hope that he is okay, because that's six.

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seven, six, and eight targets the last month. Joanne Johnson did catch a touchdown at the end of the game after Troutman had left. So you're telling me Troutman should have had two. Well, no. That's what I heard. Because Joanne did catch the one before Troutman, so that it's still in the mix, but you hit. You've gone to the bottom of the barrel on a couple of these tight-in start of the week picks to try to give people emergency options, and it's worked out, and I am. We're doing all right. I'm just observing and marveling. George Kittle has scored three straight games, by the way. Nice to see.

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Not nice to see these guys. Pooped in his big boy pants. Patrick Mahomes. Look who's back. Patrick Mahomes and Dak Prescott in the game that we hoped would be a game that we enjoyed. It was not a game. Gross. To enjoy. I mean, this was a 56.5 point over under. I hope he took the under. I mean, this was one I was so excited about really looking forward to the potential.

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You know, but it didn't work out. If the line, yes, if the line was 30, which no line has ever been that low, to my knowledge, they would have hit the under. Yeah, DAC was 216 and zero with two picks. Mahomes was 260 and zero. Woof. Travis Kelsey got the rushing touchdown. What do you think the prop bet for Mahomes and Prescott to,

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combined for zero passing touchdowns. Oh, it would have, oh, to combine for zero? Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's like, the odds of that happening had to be. They would have, they would have just laughed in your face. Don't those sportsbooks do the thing where they're like, oh, one touchdown from this guy and easy money. Yes. No, the NFL, it's just ridiculous. But, okay, but we're back. No, I know Mahomes put up 405 last week because he was playing against me in the League of Record.

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But that makes four out of the last five, Patrick Mahomes, actively hurting your fantasy team. But with the number one overall finish in between there. Sure. I know. It's crazy. I'm not playing them this week. I'm by. But I am rolling with Mahomes whenever I can. Okay. They didn't really need them in this game that much. Even though the, you know, it was a 10-point game, the Cowboys couldn't move the ball. Without C.D. Lamb.

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without Amari Cooper. And Zeke for most of the game. Yeah, Zique got his ankle rolled up on, didn't look the same. This was an offense that just couldn't move. So the game plan shifted, it seemed for Kansas City. And this was a good, like, you don't watch a game and go, oh, this was just a terrible performance for Patrick Mahomes. This was a terrible fantasy performance for Mahomes. Well, what do you do with Russell Wilson then? Same conviction to keep playing him. So I want to talk about this.

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Let me ask a question because I'm thinking about this and I was like, I think Russell Wilson might be a great dynasty trade for asset. Because this is over in Seattle. I've been reading from the beat reporters there, they're all saying this is the end of an era. It's done. I don't know if, look, Pete Carroll's one of the oldest coaches. He's not able to figure this out right now. The offense is trash.

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And I think that this might, they might have to completely change who they are. But in the end, Russell Wilson is still Russell Wilson. He's not always going to be coming off of a finger surgery and playing as poorly as he's playing. I would trust. Yeah, exactly, 32. I mean, what age do you think Russell Wilson loses it? 36, 38? He will be in contention for Denver as well. Like I've seen that.

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floating around the Twitter sphere. So I'm just thinking he's on a really bad stretch. Do you want to play him anymore this year? Not really. Washington. He gets to play Washington. I'm not, I'm not, I said this. Chris Carson gone for the year. They're struggling with injury. I said coming into this game, I was not playing Russell Wilson. I want to wait until after.

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I see him play well because of how bad he was from the finger. I won't play him against Washington. If he has a great game on my bench, great. Then I know he's back, but no, I'm not starting him until after he has a good one. Ryan Tanyhill, another stinker for Tana Hill. I don't blame him. He also threw four interceptions. I do blame him. Well, it was in the rain. You lost your number one, your number two, your number three wide receiver, your number one tight end. He's.

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literally having to come back in the rain with nobody he's played football with. I give him a pass. He had 323 yards in the rain. Yeah. What sucks is if Ryan Daniel Hill gave you 323 and 1, you're like, well, okay. True. That's not the worst thing that could happen except four interceptions. He had a fumble, right? He didn't lose the fumbles. So two must, did he lose them both? I don't know if he lost them both, but he had six.

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turn or six plays that could have led to turnover. At minimum, that's minus 10 points. Negative x-rays on AJ Brown. Okay. More tests today. And we'll see if there is more damage. But he is just, it's kind of a loss year for AJ Brown. Yeah, it is. Completely. Joe Burrow, another disappointing performance, 148 and 1 in a matchup with the Raiders.

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That they won by a billion points. So they won and easily. This is very similar to Patrick Mahomes and that they did not need him. They gave the ball 30 times to Joe Mixing. They had a lead. So yada, yada. That being said, I mentioned to Mike early in this game. I didn't feel like he looked good. He was, he just.

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You know, I don't know. He did not impress me. Obviously, he had a bad stat line. But unlike Patrick Mahomes or when I watched the game and he was in control and they were, you know, winning. Burrow just seemed best at handing it off in this game. Well, the other side of the ball wasn't good either. Derek Carr, 2.15 and 1 with a pick. Dallas coming up. The Raiders have, I mean, I brought this up since they, since they lost Henry Ruggs. They have scored 16 points, 14 points, and 13 points. And I think it's more than that.

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I do. I mean, Josh Jacobs has not been playing good football. They lost. I mean, their coach had to resign. Yep. It's a lot. It's unfortunate for a team that started off 3-0. They were 3-0, and they're going to be in danger of missing the playoffs. I don't think they can make the playoffs in the division. I don't see any chance. Ezekiel Elliott, 9 for 32 on the ground, 6 for 36. Not really worth mentioning as a dud. This is like a dud with an asterisk when you get hurt.

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played through an ankle injury was off the field at times. This was a weird week for running backs. One thing to point out is like even low performances ended up in the top 24 in the week because they're just, you had a couple of the high end guys that were out of this world. They just took everything. They said all the fantasy points this week are ours. Zeke was RB17. Yeah, very disappointing. Very disappointing week.

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the RB-17. So he probably didn't crush your matchup because your opponent probably didn't have good. I just hope you didn't play against those two running back. Here's one I don't care about either, but David Montgomery did not have a big week against Baltimore, but we played 95% of snaps as Detroit. Take that clue, Herbert. So he's nothing I'm worried about at all. Damian Harris, you know, I don't know why he's here either. I mean, he split time with.

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remandre but on the carries he got it was 5.6 a carry yeah um obviously jeff wilson is a name that he was disappointing yeah the process was 100 i mean he got 19 carries super involved and if i i believe you you tweeted out andy the uh play where jeff wilson was standing by himself in the end zone for the touchdown and they just whoops the ball was thrown um

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Not to him. I will say this, though, despite the process and that he has not been a good runner yet in his work so far this year. I mean, he's 2.6 a carry in this game against Jacksonville. It's 2.8 a carry in the game against the Rams. And that's on 29 carries. So he has not had, like Elijah Mitchell takes you about three plays to see this guy break off on an 11-yard run. It hasn't happened for Jeff. And he didn't get into the end zone in.

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two games in a row where he got the ball around the goal line. Yeah, he was tackled at the one on a different play on their first epic drive where they took like 13 minutes to go down the field and got three points. They kicked on fourth. I totally agree with that call. Yeah, I mean, if you spend the entire quarter driving the ball, you go 90 yards and then you get no points, that feels bad. That's the kind of thing that when you're heavily favored against Jacksonville, you don't risk it because the momentum of losing that point on that drive.

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