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Week 11 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Rapid Cold Takes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/22

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Week 11 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Rapid Cold Takes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/22

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Fighting on the field. Shoving people after a play is over. Punching Justin Herbert in the stomach when he's on the ground? What was that? But running into the ensign while pointing should be one of the things permitted. Yeah. You should be laughing while pointing. That's what you should be doing. Which is what, just for the record, it's what Jason does at, we went to the Sun's game the other night. Oh, yeah. And every time the opposing team would make a mistake.

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Jason would be screaming that voice. You hit him with the Nelson? Oh, yeah, baby. It's fun. Look, this show is not the no fun. We have fun here. And let's take a second to have some fun.

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We can rotate back to the quarterback position. Najee Harris ended up getting into the end zone. He runs for about three a carry every week, and it never matters. That's the truth. I mean, how many weeks in a row has he been like that? He's unstoppable because of the utilization. When you get that much work, he will have a great rookie contract before, you know, apparently.

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dying. I mean, you can't take the workload forever, but he is, he's, he's my favorite player to watch right now. 3.6 a carry on the year, 3.4 over the last five weeks. Doesn't matter. Been inside the top 15 every week since week one, almost always in the top 12. If they improve their offensive line, because the first guy, what's crazy is he should be drafted very high if they have a solution at quarterback. Yeah, you know, it's one of those things where his yards per carry is terrible.

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And yet the first guy never tackles him. He breaks, it takes a village. Better than the numbers. Yeah, yeah. All right. Justin Herbert, the number one quarterback on the week again, 30 for 41, 382 and 3 ran for 90 yards on the ground. He is the first quarterback ever with 380 passing yards and 90 plus yards on the ground. It makes sense. I mean, it seems impossible to do that. He had almost 100 rushing yards and then threw for more than, I mean.

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I spent last week thinking, I mean, you talked about it in our League of Record. You were going to shop Jalen Hertz. You're going to try to get some assets for the future. It's a keeper league. And I'm sitting here and I'm going, I even texted you during the show. I'm like, oh, we should make a trade for Jalen Hertz. And I changed my mind. I was like, I'm not going to do it. Jalen Hertz has been outstanding at another great week, three rushing touchdowns. Oh, yeah. But he's not putting up, he doesn't have that what Herbert did here and finish that number one.

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of the week, the accounting for nearly 500 yards, just outstanding. Since week three, Justin Herbert has been the number one quarterback twice, the number two quarterback twice. His pace since week three is 4,700 yards and 43 touchdowns, with just 10 interceptions. Also 416 rushing yards after that performance. What we hope is he runs. Like, we've mentioned a few. It unlocks the offense. It does. And we've mentioned a few times on the show.

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Justin Herbert is his athletic measurable, you know, his 40, his explosive rating, his quickness rating. It is very, very comparable to Josh Allen. He just has never, he used it a little bit as a rookie like for some rushing touchdowns here there, but he's never taking it upon himself of, oh, there's empty field here. I could rip off a 30-yard run if I just go. So.

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Maybe this one performance inspires him to say, yeah, I should do this a little bit more. And I've never seen an easier 90 yards. Like when he slid at the end of every run. Exactly. Like he just took what was given to him. They were playing man coverage. He's like, oh, okay, check this out. Yes. Five, 10, 15 yard slide. Get back in the huddle. Kansas City, Houston, Denver for the playoff matchup. So that's what ended up making you decide not to make the move.

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It's kind of philosophical as a fantasy player. Maybe Jalen Hertz is more consistent. Justin Herbert is not consistent, but he can win you a week. And depending on what you need, speaking of winning weeks, Aaron Rogers went out 3.85 and 4 in this game. His touchdowns were pretty. I mean, just pretty balls. Jalen Hertz. Al, you shouldn't be laughing. You really grow up, Al. Laughing at what is right. I'm on a role lately. I'm on a real role.

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Why doesn't somebody talk about Jalen Hurts? I'll talk about him since he's a guy I've gotten, you know, seems like all of my main leagues and I love having him. He has finally put it together where he's looking good on the field and doing well for fantasy. This was not the easiest matchup against the New Orleans Saints. I think they might make the playoffs. I do too. They've got an easy strength of schedule the rest of the way.

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He had a very nice line on the ground, 18 for 69, and three rushing touchdowns. So it was just great. I mean, Mike, I apologize, because I know we were in a matchup against each other, and I had hurts, and it hurts, do you? It did. We brought up Aaron Rogers, the other side of the field, a quarterback I was afraid of, because the Green Bay Packers had shut down.

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three great quarterbacks in a row. And then Kirk Cousins says, no, 341 yards, three touchdowns, gets the victory at home. And he was awesome. Speaking of awesome, I give you guys credit. You had conviction about starting Cam Newton this past week. And he went 21 for 27, 189 and 2, ran in a touchdown, 10 carries. Looked fine, lost the game. But he's going to be good for fantasy. Yep.

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And then Big Ben had his best game of the year, fantasy-wise, 273 and 3. Not always pretty. I mean, these downfield shots don't even have a chance anymore. Like if you notice when he throws it downfield to Claypool, they don't even land anywhere near him. But it's nice to get Claypool back. It does give you the possibility that Big Ben can get it done. They almost battled back and stole that game from the Chargers.

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Wide receivers, Justin Jefferson was unbelievable. Eight for 169 and two. I guess when I say Kirk Cousins was great, what I mean is Justin Jefferson is awesome. He was, yeah, he was outstanding. And he's been really good for three straight weeks, 10 targets. They weren't lying when they said they were going to get him the ball more. And Kirk is willing to take the shot deep. And he throws a good deep ball. And if you weren't watching, there was a, I think it was a 60 yard or so reception where Justin Jefferson.

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Did his best. Like he looked like Michael Jordan at the end of Space Jam, where he's just, he's willing his arm to stretch. But it didn't stretch. Yeah, but it was just a little too short. But it did not stretch. Yeah, and he was down at the one. So, I mean, he was, he's a half a yard away from from eight for one, 17 and three. Devante Adam, seven for one, 15 and two, destroyed Minnesota, plays them in week 17, the championship week.

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That's great. That's a great recipe. Those divisional games, if you can get another shootout between those two teams, it will mean good things for fantasy players. Elijah Moore. Oh, my goodness. The breakout is real. He's done it with three quarterbacks. Yep, but none of them have been Zach Wilson. He has not yet had a good game with Zach Wilson. Eight for 141 and one. Let me just get that in there. Yeah, I mean, the last month, he's been a top. This is four in a row where his performances have been top.

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36 at wide receiver. Five in a row. He had, oh, that's right. He had a number one finish, and some of it has come in garbage time, but we brought this up. They're going to have a lot of garbage time. I'm not too worried about that. The talent is there for Elijah Moore. So then the question is, is the only thing to overcome the trusting Jets part of the narrative? I still genuinely worry about.

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Zach Wilson's return. Is that wrong of me to? No. That's my biggest fear. I feel like if Flacco is there, if Mike White is there. But when Zach Wilson comes back, he has not yet shown me anything that gives me confidence in the receiving core. Hopefully, you know, Elijah Moore should help him. And so I'm still going to roll with him, no matter what. Darnell Mooney, 16 targets, 48% of the Chicago targets.

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If Alan Robinson misses, he's a smash play. And if he doesn't, you're seeing the future, though. I mean, Mooney is going to be the guy there. Robinson's likely to depart unless we get breaking news right now that he signed an extension. No? No, just a hamstring injury. MVS, 10 targets, 4-4-1, 23-1. He likes to do this from time to time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And generally, it's a scary thing to chase, but we'll...

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decide that, I suppose. He's got the Rams coming up. I don't know. I won't chase it. I mean, it was an awesome play. He obviously has the talent and the quarterback to hit those 80-yard touchdown bombs. It's just if you don't get that long, giant play, you get a dud. I would rather have the consistent, like I'd rather start a, you know, a Hunter Renfro than an MVS, even though the ceiling is obviously higher with MVS.

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A couple bounce back performances. Terry McLaren had been 60th and 35th at the position in the previous two weeks. He's had four weeks, number three, four, five, and seven. And then the rest were stinkers. So you just keep starting him. You take the lumps, I guess, and enjoy the blow-up games. And he was great again, five-for-one of three-and-one. Mike Williams, it took a while, but he had a big play at the end of the game. Five-for-97-1.

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More involved, Keenan Allen was good too. What's your takeaway from the Mike Williams game? Man, it's tough because you watch 96% of that game, and Mike Williams was not doing much, you know, four for 30 or something like that, the whole game. Now, obviously, he's got the talent.

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to do what he did and get that long touchdown. But it is worth noting. Like it took every, it took a crazy outcome from the Steelers who were down 17 in the fourth quarter to come and take the lead to force the issue of needing Mike Williams to have that play because Keenham was the guy. 13 targets, nine receptions, 112 yards. So I still worry a little bit about Mike Williams. I mean, you got to play him if you want these big games, but it's been a while and you were a minute away from.

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