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Fantasy Nose-dives, Mailbag & AMA

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Send in the car. Send in the car. Found out the Raiders will be featured on this summer season of Hard Knocks. You're very excited about this. That's the best hard knocks possible. Gruden? And if you watch, Gruden, Gruden does not want Hard Knocks there. No. He is so opposed to Hard Knocks being there. And that's going to make it great. Because he's being forced. Yes. To do it. And he'll act happy.

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And you'll be able to look right through it. And Antonio Brown and Josh Jacobs, unfortunately, will now go way too high in the draft. Josh Jacobs was going to be a value. Hard Knox will ruin that. You think so? I do. Every year, someone from Hard Knocks is like, oh, I love them. And then they start going up one round, two rounds, three rounds higher in the draft. Devante Freeman a couple years ago. Speak to the Jacobs comic because we...

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We are, I think, a very pro-Jacob's show, like from all three of us believe Jacobs has a lot of upside. I actually noticed that that was one of the most common comments in our mock draft was that Jacobs went too high when I took. People didn't have confidence in Jacobs in Oakland. Well, you don't have confidence because you haven't seen him as a running back in the NFL. I get that. He's a rookie. He's coming in. He wasn't a guy who at Alabama was a workhorse.

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But he was the clear cut best prospect coming in. He was drafted in the first round. And if you look at first round data on running backs, their hit rate is very, very high. And now he's in a situation where you lose Marshaun Lynch. And he is, he is clearly the guy now. Yeah, no, Isaiah Crowell, who they brought in to help him. Crampus is there.

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Yeah. So no one is there. There's very little competition. And if you just look at, you know, the way that we do everything for the ultimate draft kit in the draft season, we stat out every player, every team, every, you know, we look at so much. And if you were to stat out the Raiders as an average NFL team and you distribute the carries to the running backs in their system, it's going to be very difficult for barring injury.

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for Josh Jacobs to not be a good, we're talking definitely a high-end RB2, possibilities of being a low-end RB1. Josh Jacobs or Marlon Mack, right here, right now. I'm going to go against the grain here, and I'm going to take Marlon Mack. You think that's against the grain? I believe that's against the grain, because people still are not believers in Marlon Mack like I am. I am a true, I think the Colts are a great offense.

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I think more than that is a great running back. He probably won't catch the ball, though. He probably won't catch as many as Josh Jacobs catches. I will grant you that. All right. Some Tyreek Hill updates, according to the NFL network, barring further developments, there is every reason to believe. That is the quote, that Tyreek Hill will be back with the chiefs before the start of next month's training camp. There is no active investigation, according to the district attorney, involving Tyreek Hill. Now, we want to lay this out there, not because we know what the outcome is going to be of...

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you know, whatever investigations. I guess there's no more investigations. The point is he's not going to be banned from team activities forever. At this point, however, we don't know what the NFL is going to do, right? We don't know how long the NFL is going to suspend him. It seems that it is, I would bet almost everything that I have on the fact he will be suspended for some duration. Yes, and if I were to bet on the duration, you're probably looking at eight games because six is pretty much the standard bearer.

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you know, because of his past in college coming in, and those are spelled out in the CBA terms, you know, like that has an active effect on suspensions. I would guess he gets eight games. Yeah, I think it'll be 10 to 12. So that's the latest on Tyreek. We'll update you on what's going on. Tyreek status for this season and beyond. It has huge implications on the draft stock of...

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Sammy Watkins and Nicole Hardman, and so even Pat Mahomes. Yeah, absolutely. All right, a couple of OTA notes before we move on into the mailbag. Cam Newton cleared to throw at minicamp. Fantastic. Got to be able to throw. He is going to be a very good value in drafts this year. He does seem like he will be. Eric Ebron, this is great news because we had the, what, two weeks ago, we found out there was mystery groin surgery. Right. It's like one of those like, okay, this never happened because all of a sudden it was like, wait.

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Eric, you probably had groin surgery, but apparently it was so minor they didn't talk about it, and it has not affected his ability to play football. Running at full speed, Jason. That's the speed I want. Travis Kelsey is going to sit out mandatory minicamp with an ankle. Pat Schumer said. There's two of them. Evan Ingram sideline with the hammie. That's always fun. Miles Sanders hasn't participated at all.

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so far in Philadelphia. You start to look a little bit at Jordan Howard and just how far down Jordan Howard is going to be drafted. There's upside. You know the RBBC history of Doug Peterson. Certainly. Just keep it in your headspace, is all we're saying. I was going to say this with Evan Ingraham. You know, you look back at last year, this is so early and we think all these things don't matter. But goodness gracious, hamstring injuries around training, camping on.

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they have an effect. They don't have an effect on everybody, but there's a large percentage where it's like, okay, this has an early season effect on these guys, and we have to start remembering this. So Evan Ingram and Miles Sanders, just put that in your mental notebook that, like, they are dealing with hamstring injuries right now in OTAs. I believe that was one of our ten things to remember, and that was one of yours, Jason, hamstring injuries specifically early on. I'm going to write these guys down.

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Do something about it. Here's good news. Marquis Brown, Hollywood. Hollywood. Cleared for individual drills. That's not full practice. Hey now, hey now. He's coming off the list, Frank. You love to see it. You need him on the right path if he's got any help this year. Man, I want him to succeed so bad. You know, I've been in talks with some people in Baltimore who have been watching what is taking place.

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at minicamp, Lamar Jackson, new throwing motion for Lamar Jackson. Not looking good. Not looking good from those observing. He's doing the softball pitch. He switched arms. He's going lefty. He's going full lefty. I saw Mahomes do it. Can't be worse. But look, take it for what you will, right? That's just evidence from people watching. It's going to take time to develop that. But new offense?

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For Lamar Jackson? Built for Lamar Jackson. New throwing motion for Lamar Jackson. What we've heard it is not going to be as run heavy for him. They want him in the pocket a little bit more. And by a little bit more, that means of course they do. He was going to break. I think he did already break. He will break every rushing record for a quarterback in the book if he never throws and just runs. Which he may have to do again. That's the hard thing about like they can say what they want.

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but when throwing doesn't work. And when running does work. Right. That's part of the equation. It's funny because they won so many games, right, Brooke? They won so many games. And then they're like, we want to win less games this year. That's how it feels. The thing is, is you just can't run Lamar Jackson 30 times a game and then still have Lamar Jackson. Look, I'm optimistic that Lamar Jackson can improve as a passer because...

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He has to. And he can. I didn't think he was terrible as a passer in college. He is sub-NFL caliber accuracy. But if he just gets it to slightly less subpar, we just want to see players like Mark Andrews and Hollywood Brown have an opportunity to flourish, Jason, to flourish. I want to see it. Austin Hooper's not participating. Who cares? All right. Here's something you do care about. Oh.

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By the way, hip injury, Debo Samuel, he's sitting out right now. Julio Jones. Limited during minicamp because of a foot injury. So.

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Is that, has he had foot injuries before? He has. He's had the same, you know, Sammy Watkins foot injury. And you've got him on, you've got him on the same team that you have your Todd Gurley shares on. I do. And you acquired him. Well, I didn't want a over 30 year old former superstar dealing with a foot injury wide receiver in A.J. Green who didn't have a contract. So I wanted to move him for Julio. Yeah. And you did. He's getting that big contract.

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which he still does not have yet, and now he has a foot injury. So here's the deal. I'm hoping that he is sitting out because he wants his contract. At what point... He's just saying I got a foot problem. That would be nice. But then again, he's always had foot problems. At what point do they change in the reporting of injuries for guys like Julio and AJ Green instead of because of a foot injury, just because of their foot?

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Yeah. Like their foot by default doesn't seem to be functioning at a high rate. Well, you never see that. You always see like, you know, Cam Newton shoulder or Travis Kelsey ankle. I want to see like feet. Yes. Just Julio Jones feet. Same old feet. Yep. All right. Be sure to switch your dynasty league over to Sleeper. Better yet switch any league over to Sleeper. We just did our mock draft with the Sleeper platform on Tuesday. So you can check out that.

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episode of the show get a glimpse at the draft boards download the app today um you want to talk uh to the folk clan yeah who's doing the mailbag drop oh crud jay gris all right jays got it mailbag i he did a great job bad not bad all right if you have a question for the fantasy footballers podcast you can go to the website the fantasy footballers dot com click the submit a question button you can also

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Leave a voicemail. 302464 TFFB. Leave a voicemail question. We love helping your team. We're going to do that right now. I'm going to jump in with a voicemail. Hey, ballers. How you doing? This is Phil from Florida. I'm wondering, should I trade for NET for Max, full point PPR? Thanks, guys.

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Fournet for Mac? Yes, Fornet or Marlon Mac. Now, he didn't say Dynasty, but I'm kind of assuming because he's asked about trade, a trade question. What do you guys think? We'll answer both. All right, perfect. Does it change for you? I mean, look, I want the guy attached to Andrew Luck. I don't think either of them represent high PPR value. I don't like the variables involved with Leonard Fernette and the seemingly...

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If it's not bad blood, it's not good blood in Jacksonville between Tom Coughlin and Fernette and the injury history. So not that Mack hasn't had a little bit as well. It's a close call for me. I'd rather have Marlon Mc. If this is a redraft league, I still lean Fournet because, and this is a risk issue for you. I mean, if you're trying to make this move and you say, I think Fournet carries higher risk. He has been dealing with injuries pretty much his entire life.

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high school college NFL so far, and he has been inefficient. But he's going to get the workload this year and be relied upon to a degree that if you're willing to take that injury risk, I think Fournett's, I think Fournett has a great year this year. I know you're much further down on Fournette. I was just talking about how I like Marlon Mack. And so it's close, but in a dynasty, I do think, I mean, look, they've voided Fournets guaranteed money.

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So if Fournet comes out and stinks or gets injured this year, Fornett could be done. I mean, Marlon Mack is, like you said, he's attached to Andrew Luck. I trust that for going forward more than I do for Fournet. So if it's Dynasty, I would go Mac. Yeah, these guys are basically back to back in our rankings in the UDK right now. And you're right. It's a risk aversion type of question. On the PPR front, I do think that Fournet could be more involved in people.

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think because he was actually already more involved than most people realized and then they lost T.J. Yeldon, who was the primary pass catching back and they replaced him with no one with a pass catching skill set. And that's, I guess that would be the point that I'd want to speak to. I don't believe that what you see in Jacksonville today represents what Jacksonville will have as the rotation on day one. Like it's right now it's easy to look at them and say, look, there's an unproven.

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commodities behind Leonard Frenet. But I don't believe that, look, when you void the last year of the contract, you have a massive injury history, you suspended a guy for his off-the-field actions before or on the field shenanigans. And then you go and trade T.G. Eldon away. You think they're going to add another back? I believe that they're going to utilize other backs in a much higher volume capacity than people think right now. But did you know, but do you know who their other backs are? Yeah. Like Alvra Blue?

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