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Week 3 Studs & Duds + Fields of Sadness, Divine Achane! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/25

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Week 3 Studs & Duds + Fields of Sadness, Divine Achane! | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1467

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A reaction episode built around the Fields of Sadness bit, Divine Achane praise and the regular pun/studs/duds ritual.

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Like, there are some really hilarious trade offers that could be there. For instance, who do you want, Rahim Moster to Derek Henry? Moster. Moster. Okay, so then you're turning that down? You would not go out and shop Rahim Moster for Derek Henry, or Kyron Williams. Kyron. Zach Moss? No. Zach Moss still has the Jonathan Taylor lingerer. Man, they are. I mean, that's the hardest thing is to sell high on a player like Moster. because he's number one. He's the number one running back on the number one offense and the number one fantasy running back. And what you said earlier, when I heard you describing A chain and why you'd play him against Buffalo, you're like, oh, it just takes one play. It's like, that's Moster too. Yes, it is. They're both rocket ships. And Moster, unlike A chain, when other players come back, if Jeff Wilson gets back, if Ahmed comes back, Rahim Moster is the starter. He's the one. A chain might be the three. We don't know yet.

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Right. Bejohn, hugely disappointing performance. If you want to, when I spend that wheel of shame later this week, you can glance in Bejohn's direction because 10 for 33 on the ground and then four for 27 through the year. Huge letdown performance for. It was. And I'm not going to bet against Bejohn ever, but Detroit. Yeah. They shut down. Kyle's on the microphone, right? I'm here. And whose fault is this, you said? Is Ritter. Ritter. Desmond Ritter. The future of your franchise? Definitely not. Okay. Algier, what in the world? Is this a... The snaps were up for Bijan. This is... Yeah, in week one where... They were up in week two, though, too. So Tyler Algiers are a real concern. That's what I'm saying of the week one... Tyler Alger... With hindsight, looks like that could have been a trap for Alger. I don't think it's just a trap necessarily. I think what happened in week one was that it was a game script where they dominated.

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They were up 14 points on Carolina. In games where they're up, they are going to have so many carries that even if Bijon is 70% of the market share, Tyler Alger will end the game with 15 carries. So are you playing matchups then? I am playing matchups. So upcoming Jacksonville, Houston. Those are games where I think Alger will be, you know, an OK RB2 flex option. But for sure. This is Bijan's backfield. I mean, we knew coming. This is why I wanted to play A chain over Alger. Because the Detroit Lions, they don't give up hardly anything to running backs. And you don't want to back up in a situation and a bad matchup. What are you going to be doing moving forward in terms of having more courage? I'm going to just try to look in the mirror and do one of those, you know, you could do you got this. What about like visiting a wizard?

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Uh, yeah, certainly. I mean, you know, like a Kevin kind of really go get that courage, you know. Wow. Oh, okay. I got you. It took me a second to know. I thought, um, a wookie. Yeah, I thought it was a wookie. But that was Chubaco. Chewbacca's already got courage. They're built in with a lot of courage. Yeah, they are. Remandre Stevenson, just 19 for 59 against the Jets. Keep playing him. Yep. Josh Kelly. This was as bad as it gets. He has officially. Not it, 11 for 12. I do this for 11. I was mad that I hadn't invested more fab on Josh Kelly when the news came out that Austin Echler was going to be out longer term. I feel blessed that I didn't do that. Yeah, I really thought that Joshua Kelly would have a bounceback week. We did look good in that week, right? Oh, he did. That was a real thing, right? It really did happen. And it allowed me to be tricked for another week.

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As I thought Josh Kelly against Minnesota with the over under, I mean, there was points galore in this match, but it was the Chargers looked at their situation. We gave the neutral script pass rate. It skyrocketed. And they said, no, we're not going to run the ball. He was on the field for 73% of snaps. 73, got 11 carries on one target. This is why, look, insurance running backs, it. it can be very difficult. When it hits, it feels really great. But when it does not hit, which it usually does not, it feels very bad. Yeah, I mean, if he had a nickname, it would be stuffed. That's a terrible performance on a game when you put up 400-something yards. Khalil Herbert. He just, he doesn't get work. So.

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And it's an even split. This is, you know, him and Rochon are really sharing time. Two halves of a nasty pie. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you've got the Denver matchup, but I can't imagine you want to start either. You can't possibly have confidence starting a Chicago backfield player right now. Yeah, I agree with Mike's sentiment that I think Herbert's a good player, but this situation, I mean, look at Breece Hall. Two straight weeks for Breece Hall where he is not, I mean, Jeremy is over there. shaking his head and just, because what are you doing with Breece Hall now? Starting him. Yeah, I think so. He plays Kansas City next week. That didn't go well for Cleo Herbert a minute ago. Yeah, it's not good. I mean, Breece Hall was 12 for 18. Yeah. Here's what you do. You do what we would all do. If we were playing the video game and facing Zach Wilson, you stop Breece Hall and you win the game. Yeah, yeah. Put all your guys there. Hey, hey, Zach, I dare you. Check out how open these receivers are.

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Cover zero, every play. Garrett Wilson was five for 48. Let's move into wide receivers. Garrett Wilson, nine targets, five for 48. I mean, you still play Garrett Wilson, right? Yeah, he is, he is a weekly decision depending on what you have. It's difficult. I had a roster for Garrett Wilson. Oh, man. That's, that's what I mean by it. It's ridiculously difficult. You play me. Adam Thieling. Oh, I like this new voice. Thank you for fixing this, Jason. There was just something in my voice. Oh, baby. I'm not old. I'm awesome. Adam Thielen sounds awesome. I'll be back. Oh, I don't know about that.

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Garrett Wilson, disappointing. Drake London, two for 31. That's just part of the recipe. That's the Falcons offense. Hopkins 3 for 48 doesn't seem to have it anymore slash Tana Hill doesn't have it anymore. I didn't even bring this up, but I meant to. When talking about me being willing to really try to trade Derek Henry and go get one of those other players, is that not only is it the age and the history of like usually the wheels fall off and we see a little bit of red flags, but he is a guy that is good when this team wins.

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The Titans and Tannahill just don't look like that. They don't look like a team that's going to say, hey, Derek Henry, you're going to be the top three running back rest of the season because we're going to win a ton of games and give you 30 carries every game. It just doesn't seem like that's what the recipe is going forward. Yeah, and not a good game. Tyler Lockett, three for 34, disappointing. Calvin Ridley, three for 40, disappointing. I need I need you guys to weigh in here. The Manders? Yeah, the Manders offense in general. Terry McLaurin six for 41. You got the six. PPR, you're probably happy-ish. John Dodson, two for 21. Sam Hal was sacked nine times. He threw four interceptions. When he threw those interceptions, and I'm going to give the Buffalo Bills all the credit in the world. But when he throws the interceptions, there's something missing from the throw. Like it's coming out of his hand slower or something is going on because these were ugly. I mean, we looked at these and we were like, what?

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It is... What are you doing? It is absolutely absurd that Jahan Dotson, as a rookie, put up the numbers that he did, and now we're looking at a guy with a total of 83 yards on the season through three weeks. Are you done? Something... I think you have to be done. Is this Jehan Notson? I think you've got to put them on the bench. I mean, would it surprise you guys if that... I mean, I guess they won their first two games. They play Philadelphia. If they weren't two and one, that performance right there, that would have run, like the way that Ron Rivera handles quarterbacks, that would have been it. We would have had Jacoby Brissette next week, but they are still two and one. They're going to be two and two heading into week five against Chicago. So that'll be. Would you change your, like, let's put it this way, Mike. I'm not positive Sam Hal doesn't get benched now. It is possible. Ron Rivera's patience at quarterback is ridiculous.

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But if the change happened, would you have renewed interest in McLaren and Dotson? Yes. I mean, McLaren seems safer. At least for one week. We still have to see how Baker does against these Philadelphia Eagles, but like he should succeed. People have been succeeding. So like if Baker and the Bucks do like anything average of like good fantasy output for wide receivers, with Jacoby, you'd feel, I'd feel confident enough to put him back in. All right. Well, we'll talk more about the drop decision for these guys tomorrow. I don't want to linger there today because like the Drake London's and Johan Dotsons, those are guys that decisions will be made for some of the free agent pickups. And that story is going to be the Devon A chain story. Tide ends, Mark Andrews has not got it going and they lost. And you can't help but look at this situation and say those are correlated, right? Like Mark Andrews is either not 100%.

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Or they're making these, like Todd Monkin's making decisions on this offense that are not making sense because Mark Andrews, four for 35. That's not enough. Watching it, I think that Lamar, or that Mark Andrews is still not fully healthy. Lamar, in terms of just as a passer, he is completing 73% of his attempts. He was 22 of 31, that's 71% over 200 yards. Odo Beckham wasn't there. Now, I mean, I know like Zay Flowers is soaking up a lot of cheap, easy targets, but the point is how when Beckham was out and it was just Flowers and Andrews as your two top weapons, how did Mark Andrews only see five targets? This offense is putrid right now. You, you know, the 70 plus percent is irrelevant when you're talking about 6.5 yards per attempt. That is. Yeah, if Zay Flowers was, I believe, 8 for 48, which is six a catch.

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Unleash him. It's really, I mean, right now the Monkin offense is not clicking. It's not working. It's been one of the most disappointing big storylines from the offseason. Obviously with a new system and talented players, I think everyone thinks Lamar Jackson is a talented quarterback. We know Mark Andrews is a talented tight end. Zay Flowers looks like a talented rookie. You want them to write the ship and it can happen, but right now you have to. You have to assume that what you've seen is what's going to continue. The matchup coming up is in Cleveland against the Browns, whose defense looks so legitimate. Oh, they're number one in everything. Yeah, and then they go on the road to Pittsburgh. Maybe no Roshab Bateman. Yeah, I think it's going to be a bad couple of weeks here. Now, Mark Andrews, you're going to start him every week. He's tight end. You don't, you know, maybe if you have Leporta, you could make a decision. But outside of that, you're starting Mark Andrews every week, and he's still got a chance for a touchdown. I had one last week.

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that Andrew's returning would drop the short area targets for Zay Flowers. And it seems like the short area targets for Zay Flowers are shorter and hurting Andrews a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, that offense has been disappointing. And people came in saying, oh, the wide receivers, they're so much better. Beckham's hurt. Bateman's hurt. Neither of them were proven. Neither of them were on the field. Yeah. So Nelson Aguilar is like going to have to play a role on this roster. I almost said bounce back. What's the opposite of a bounce back? What would you say? How would you describe that? Splat. Yeah, you just don't bounce off the ground. You just go curse. So a splat, Hunter Henry with a splat. Yep. Two for 17. David Nujoku, probably time to move on. It hasn't happened. Kyle Pitts. Nine targets. Yeah. Honestly, five for 41. It's pretty good for Kyle Pitts, baby. Yeah. Zach Earts, nothing.

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For Zach Ertz or Tray McBride, the offense in Arizona was Rondale Moore and Hollywood Brown and Michael Wilson. The routes for Earths have come down each of the three weeks. Okay. So it could be. Change in philosophy from the first few weeks? It could be. Michael Wilson's a rookie, right? You're going to involve him more as time goes on. And Zacherts, they did try to give him one of those, like that little inside pitch. Around the goal line. Amazingly, he did not quite get into the end zone. Zachert's always been known his whole career for yards after catch. I believe it's always been no. That's the yards after catch. We have to turn the page. We've got to close this one down, but tomorrow's a huge show. It's a waiver show. So more discussions on these players, more decisions to be made. And we've got two Monday night football games that we will be watching. Well, I'll be watching one at a time. Mike, you, for a man who watches nine games.

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on nine televisions on a weekly basis. You do a lot of complaining about two games on one night. Because I don't have the room situation. You can stay here at the studio. I cannot. What if you have one game on the left four TVs, one game on the right four TVs? That would be great. And then you could watch one of your fair movies in the middle. Oh, I could pick a movie? Yeah, you can hang out. I could die hard in the middle. Put a movie on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Lots more to talk about tomorrow. Please join us.

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