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Fantasy Football - Week 3 Studs & Duds + Broken Offenses - Podcast for 9/22

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Week 3 Studs & Duds + Broken Offenses | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1808

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Studs and duds are framed through emotional fantasy pain, a proposed yearly “Meow Guy” board, and a self-congratulatory Jason editing bit. The closing Travis Kelce discussion adds a “dog of dogs” phrase.

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He is funny. All right, tight ends. I mean, just look at my dynasty team. Hunter Henry, 25 fantasy points, two touchdowns. Looked great. And, you know, you're talking about a new head coach, new offense. Hunter Henry could be more here to stay than we, you know, booty. I mean, what did Diggs do? Nothing. Diggs had, well, he was going up in the first two weeks. Then it was just three catches. If I can give you a tight end with 125 target pace, would you take that? Yeah. It's Hunter Henry right now. Dalton Kincaid, five for 66 and a touchdown on Thursday.

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Jake Ferguson, 14 targets. Yeah. 13 catches should be super essential. The last two weeks, just for the fun of it, on pace for 221 targets. That's right. The 12 targets and 14 targets. And they don't have other players to throw to. And you know what? One of these times, he'll get a touchdown. No, that's where he can't catch. I would imagine. One of them. I see 13 receptions on 14 targets. I assume one of those targets was in the end zone. Yeah. He'll have. The one he didn't catch. Because he's not allowed to catch them. He'll have 187 receptions for zero touchdowns.

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Hawkinson got into the end zone this week. He did. Okay. First touchdown since Thanksgiving of 2023 for Hawkinson. And Trey McBride got into the end zone. It was kind of a slower day for him. Five for 43. But he got into the painted area. Which was a challenge until the last week of the season. Or never got it, right? No, he did. Oh, he finally got one at the end of last year? Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll take a break. And then we'll talk some duds. This episode is brought to you by PrizePix. You and I make decisions every day. But on PrizePix, being right can get you paid.

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Jordan Love, shut down. Hold on here. Burrow and Chase Brown. Yeah. I mean, the Cleveland defense, this is a team that should have beat the Bengals in week one, despite how bad their offense was, which was better than the Bengals week one, did just shockingly beat the Packers and looked good for a while against Baltimore. And eventually it faded. Yeah. It faded. But yeah, I mean, the quarterbacks, I mean, Burrow was eight and a half points. Jordan Love was 12. So it is a, they're the number one defense in football. And you do have to pay attention to it. Hello, Dallas.

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Yeah. I was going to say, Jordan Love is going to be fine because he plays the Cowboys. And the Dallas defense is so bad. How do you not expect Flacco to be able to put up points against Dallas? So. I would. Yeah. So yeah. Disappointing me from Jordan Love. I thought it would be better, but I guess Cleveland is just that good right now. Mm-hmm. Dak, two picks, one touchdown and ended up, he got pulled from the game and he wasn't happy about it. No. And he's not going to be great for fantasy coming up here. I mean, Dak has looked good on the season.

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He's had a handful of interceptions that really, truly were not his fault, but without CeeDee Lamb. Yeah. Which the injury was right away for the people who didn't realize when Lamb got hurt. Right. Yeah. Lamb got a carry early in the game and then was out. He did not do us the favor of George Kittle and getting a touchdown in a great game before going out. Very selfish. But yeah, Dak is, you know, he's my quarterback in a handful of leagues because I've been playing that stack. Was. Yeah. I'm going to be, I mean, I'm not just dropping him because I don't know who I'm going to get

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off of waivers, but I will be on the waiver wire. If you had to go Kyler or Dak. No more questions. All right. I don't know the Cardinals matchup next week. Well, we know Dak is versus. Cleveland. Yeah. Then. Kyler. Mahomes. Disappointing week. Fantasy wise, again, doesn't really have anybody but Tyquan Thornton right now is what it feels like. Wait. Dak's playing Green Bay next week. Yeah. Not Cleveland. Oh, okay. Sorry. Okay. Still kind of. That's right. Yep. Sorry about that. Patrick Mahomes, Bo Nix. Bo Nix just missed. I mean, you end up here, but the, you can go glass half full of Bo Nix just barely missed

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three gigantic plays. I think two of them would have been. He's good at barely missing plays. Yeah. That has been one of his things. Yeah. I mean, two of them. I think two of them were going to be touchdowns to Marvin Mims, if I'm remembering right. And then he barely missed Sutton. I don't know how to feel about Bo Nix. I don't. I think I'm very middle middle ground on him. I think we all knew the schedule was going to be difficult. We knew that you have the risk of what CJ Stroud and other, you know, stud rookies have faced

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historically. And, you know, he's been okay. Yeah. He's had some bad and he's had some good, you know, the matchup. No interceptions this week, but. The matchup was not easy next week against Cincinnati. It should be much easier. Two games under 200 yards. And the other one was 206. So the yardage is not there on pace for 3000 yards passing. That's the big issue with fantasy production. Bengals at home this week. I have Bo Nix. I will be playing him in that matchup next week or week five is on the road against Philly. Probably want to find another option there.

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But then you get Jets, Giants, Dallas, Houston. So, I mean, you get a pretty good run here for Bo, but he's probably going to meet someone you want to match up play. But fantasy twins, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, disappointing weeks because that's what they do. Kyler. I mean, what do you even do with Kyler? He hasn't finished in the top 15. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't have any wide receivers to throw the ball to. So I don't. It's very, very difficult. It's not a lie. No, it's really, really not a lie. I mean, he's got Zay Jones. Yeah. Michael Wilson, Greg Dorch.

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He's got some options, but they're not, you know, we're not talking like, you know, first round talents. Mike's over there just deep breathing, trying to zen his way out of this pain. It's so frustrating. You know, it's crazy because we were watching that game and it's like, we're critical of the offensive system. But then when. Because it stinks. But when they took several shots down the field. I mean, he just blew them. I mean, they're wide open play in zone. I mean, he threw a deep ball into the end zone. He was right in Marvin's hands. He should have better numbers, but he doesn't have a good wide receiver.

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CJ Stroud. He doesn't play football. Well, that whole offense is broken. I mean, they're on three, right? Broken. Yeah, they are. Oh, and three. They should be able to beat Tennessee next week. But then they have to play. Then they have to go on the road against Baltimore and Seattle. You're you're stare. And then San Francisco and Denver like you're staring down a. I'm really curious in seven start. Maybe I'm curious what that Tennessee Texans line is going to be. Well, it's at home. Oh, OK. So I'm going to guess that there are going to be like six and a half point favorites.

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We probably have a great defense. Probably have it already. Maybe even more than that. Kyle, do you have a line? It's seven right now. OK, yeah. All right. Chase Brown. We got to talk about Chase Brown. This this is the this has been insane because, yes, you've had the injury to Burrow. But this is the first week with Jake Browning. But Chase Brown has the fewest rushing yards through three games of any running back in history with 45 or more carries. Like Chase Brown has not got it done regardless of the circumstances. Like you would think you'd see more plays.

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That counterbalanced how bad the line's been or something like that. According to next gen stats, he has 54. I'm sorry. Negative. Yeah. Fifty four yards before contact on the season. That is a big problem. Yeah. And it's not going away. Correct. Which is, you know, that's not going to get fixed with a quarterback that doesn't threaten you. With Browning there. So we were curious. What we thought we were curious about was like, will he target Chase Brown? The answer? Yes. Five targets. Great. Caught for him. It's all irrelevant if your offense can't move the ball, can't score, if you're, for each one of those targets, going to get a yard or two or negative five or whatever it is.

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Like, he's not going to accumulate yards and he's not going to get touchdowns. Now, we've got to pump the brakes a little bit because this was the Minnesota Vikings defense, which is a very good defense. First Detroit at Green Bay versus Pittsburgh versus New York. Oh, my gosh. I looked at this this morning. I looked at it this morning. Okay. So the Minnesota Vikings, one of the better defense. Yeah. Denver. Then Denver. Then Detroit. Then the Packers. Two of those on the road. Then the Pittsburgh Steelers who shut it down this weekend. And then the Jets. But then Chicago. But then Pittsburgh.

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I mean, you are. You might want to get out. I would try to trade them away. Okay. Someone's going to still bank on the volume. Man. And it's worth noting on the volume side, you know, this is a player that he's been 75%, 71% of snaps this week. The first week we've seen him, it was a bad 55%. Oh, really? Yeah. Which is usually a decent number for running back. It's still a decent number. But what was so great about Chase Brown is that he was getting the, you know, those Kyron, Christian McCaffrey type of workload opportunity shares. Yeah. I don't know what to make of the snaps.

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I think Pirine got banged up in the game. Yeah. He injured his thumb. I think he also had a fumble. And then a thumble. Did I say a thumble? No. Oh, because of the thumb. Yeah. My bad. Wicked clever. So I don't know that I make anything of that. But perhaps you're at the point of the season where you want to put Taj Brooks on your bench. J-I-C. Wait, he's already on my dynasty team, Mike. Don't worry about it. I don't understand that argument. My dynasty team is loaded. He's about to ascend to the heavens. I don't understand the argument.

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You're saying Pirine got injured? Yeah. And that made Chase Brown play fewer snaps? No, no, no, no. I'm saying like of just what happened overall in the game. Pirine was getting snaps, but now he's been hurt. So maybe that helps Chase Brown. God, in the future. Yeah. Saquon Barkley, a down week for him. Ashton Gentry, 17 for 63. Zero targets is concerning. That's maddening. He was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on 11 of 17 rushes. And people, he looks good. He looks really good. I'm still trading for Gentry. Okay. I'm active. Like if somebody's burnt out from the first round pick.

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Yeah. That's a player. Like I'm going after my number one targets or number one or two targets. I'm going after Gentry and I'm going after Brian Thomas Jr. That's what I'm doing this week. I've already put it in my calendar. How sad are you that Brian Thomas Jr. had that big play? I mean, it's still, nobody's happy with him this week. That's true. He only had two receptions. Yeah. He's like, yeah, he finished wide receiver 40. So I'm very happy that he had no other big plays and that he is like, something's off right now. Shane Waldron. And, but I'm still targeting those two.

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Imagine how good Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be next year when Shane Waldron leaves. Cause Shane Waldron left and JSN went ham. Shane Waldron left and Roma Doomsay went ham. Yeah. How do, how do teams not see this? It's ridiculous. Well, there's been a couple of guys like that, right? I mean, yes. Yes. Coaches get jobs continuously. Who was the Jets head coach that, uh, number two. Oh, Adam Gase. Adam Gase. Matt Nagy. Who's hiding behind Andy Reed. At least it's easier to hide there. Oh, I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. I was like, I shouldn't say it. I shouldn't say it, but you know, it was a big joke.

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So. All right. We won't hit any buttons. All right. Tuba Hubbard, 17 for 73. I don't think that's a dud. No, that's fine. I came in, him and Javante were kind of twinsies. Javante was really, really good, but had one of the worst, most embarrassing plays. Give me that. That's what it was. It was. He just ran up to him and took the ball. I don't remember ever seeing that before. Give me that. Javante, first of all, it was on the middle of a. I'm going to eat the whole thing. You have a really good run. He's near the sideline.

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The defender comes up and instead of tackling him, he just. No, I don't. He just takes the ball. Give me that. I don't like Javante or Tuba being in here. They were fine. Yeah. Brees, though, nine for 21 on the ground, four for 31 through the air. That was disappointing. They couldn't get it going on the ground at all against Tampa, which is not too surprising. But Nick Chubb, you know, gross. Their offense is gross. There was more Woody Marks. Yeah, you've been talking about it. You've got to pay attention. He was brought up on Wednesday's show last week of not someone to play, but we've gone

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from 11 to 27 to 48 percent of the snaps. Only eight opportunities. But step one is get on the field. If a meaningful fantasy contributor is being at the top of the stairs, Chubb can get up four steps. Yeah. For your team. And maybe you're cool with that. But you need a player that can climb a few more steps. Yeah, because Chubb feels like he's going up the stairs on his hands and feet. You know, like... On quad? Yeah, quad. With some quad robux or something? He's crawling. Is that how you would do it if you have a hard time?

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Woody Marks, you're hoping, could do like the normal skip a step. Might be a boat. Could be. DeAndre Swift, 13 for 33. 3 for 45 through the air. Still going to contribute, but not always. They certainly haven't moved away from him yet. And that's the best we can say for DeAndre Swift. Isaiah Pacheco turned the wrong way and ran the wrong way on a screen pass that turned into a fumble for the Chiefs. He's 10 for 45 in this game. He's from... Kareem Hunt is a better play on a weekly basis than Pacheco. I felt so bad for Pacheco because he's from that area.

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And he was talking about he had like 50 seats. He was like, bought and all his friends and attendance. And it was just like, they clearly, I mean, Kareem Hunt was the better player, used more. Goal line. Yeah. And didn't screw up and cause a fumble that Mahomes went and rescued. Speaking of screwing up, I'm sorry, Jason. What'd I do? Where's the clown music? Do we have the clown music from when the Cardinals offseason? Do we have that music somewhere, Al? Ramondre Stevenson. After a dominant week. Two fumbles. Yeah, that's... Well, one fumble and then one goal line fumble. Yeah.

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A little extra special on the way across the goal line. Yeah. Antonio Gibson, by the way, came in and fumbled. Yeah. The time is now, New England. Pittsburgh barely won that game. Barely won against the Patriots when the Patriots fumbled it four times. Yeah, was Drake May fumbled another one? Yeah. Or somebody else did. I mean, Ramondre was... Honestly, they wanted really badly to use Ramondre a bunch in this game. And they couldn't do it. Like, literally, he took himself off the field. Ramondre should have been four for 19 and a touchdown. Yeah. But he... I mean, who knows what...

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