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Starts of the Week + Week 15 Breakdown, Keenan Tilt Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/17

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believe that he is too good of a wide receiver and that when he's on the field, Herbert will be looking for his direction. I think they might pull him off for more run plays, pull him off for, you know, if he's limited in some fashion, when he's on the field, he will be utilized. And he's also a gamer. He plays, he's played through a lot of these injuries. So that would be what my personal decision would be, Andy, what would you do if you had Keenan Allen?

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Not knowing the pivot option, just in general, would you... At this point with the news that we have of this moment in time, I don't think I'm playing Keenan Allen. If he's active. If he's active. I don't... I can't take a chance at him coming off after one play. And that seems like it's a real likely scenario. Yeah, it's possible. Because he came off last week.

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and he's very doubtful today, and he's got 10 days, and they're playing for nothing. I just don't know. I just don't think the upside is there, which is, but you asked, it's an opinion. It's a, it's a Reed situation. If I have Keenan Allen, now knowing that Mike Williams is out, I am picking up Tyron Johnson. He's a viable pivot of both of those players are gone.

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And the whole reason this came up, this is somehow being brought up in the middle of the Detroit Lions and Titans breakdown. And the reason why is because before the show, I was talking about Tyron Johnson. And you don't know if Stafford's playing, and Marvin Jones is another option. And if Marvin Jones doesn't have Matthew Stafford, I want no part of him. I want no part of Marvin Jones. He has the ability to not perform with Matthew Stafford like he did last week. But you don't know if you have Stafford.

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So then do you put Tyron Johnson out there? That's a decision I have in a dynasty semi-final league. So very tough. I don't think Stafford's going to play this week. That's my read on the situation. I agree. So in that case, I'm going to play. If Kenan's out, I'm playing Tyron Johnson tonight over Marvin Jones. So that's where I'm at. And you might be in a similar boat. That being said, look, Ryan Tannenhill, it looked like he had a smashed matchup last week against Jacksonville. Technically he did.

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He did not deliver for fantasy whatsoever. I worry about the exact same thing coming true this week. I thought about him multiple times this week. Thought about him in the streaming quarterbacks. Thought about him in the start of the week. Everything on paper says, okay, AJ Brown, big game, big game, let's go. You could have 200 yards from Derek Henry again. You could have this game put away against the backup quarterback who makes mistakes. Where are you guys at? I'm still willing to stream Ryan Tannahill.

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quarterback 19 on the week. That sounds terrible, but 200 yards, two touchdowns. So he didn't sink your team. And he combined that with Derek Henry had two touchdowns of his own. I mean, the Titans scored a lot. The variance just went to Derek Henry. And probability certainly says right now in this matchup against the Lions, Derek Henry has completed his transformation into a Yeti.

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The probability is on his side, but Tan Hill could still be the one who comes away with the touchdowns. I am not laughing at you, Mike. I'm laughing at the comment in our show doc under Derek Henry, where, you know, traditionally we put some statistics, we put some analytics that we've broken down. This just says let the bodies hit the floor. Yeah, he's going to stiff arm these people to oblivion. I'm going to play Derek Henry this week. I think the matchup is okay. Bold choice.

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And so I'm going to put him in. Here's the reality with what you're talking about, Andy, in the Derek Henry versus Ryan Tannahill battle on the same team. One of the concerns is there's now being so much publicity surrounding the fact that Derek Henry is actually in...

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play for the all-time rushing record in the history of the NFL. If he basically gets 200 yards a game for these next three games, which is very doable based on the matchups and based on how many times he's done that already this season, then he would get it. And there's still human beings. And he wants to get it. And if they're able to, I do have a little bit of fears of that. But like Mike said, Tanna Hill last week.

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He didn't have a bad game. He didn't destroy you by any means. He certainly didn't sealing. He didn't have a great game. He didn't win the week for you like you would hope. But he has that potential. I do think his floor is still fine. Yeah, I agree with all of what you're saying. If you need a ceiling, like I play Brady over 10. Yeah, for sure. AJ Brown, yep, you're going to play him. He was limited at practice. That's normal. All year. Don't freak out.

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One of the things that's been interesting about my son learning to play fantasy football is that he sees the injury designations for the first time during the week and he comes in panicked all the time. Like he sees a questionable tag show up for AJ Brown in this situation. What happened to him? What happened to him? He's going to be okay. He played football. That's a rough sport. Kenny Goliday did not practice again. He's not going to play. This has been bewildering, but I think I haven't figured out what's happening. Maybe.

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Okay. I think he's stringing him along. Yeah. Because he's a free agent. Yeah. Oh. And I think that maybe it's always been like, yeah, I'm feeling good. No, I'm reaggravity. Like, clearly they could have put him on an IR. Like long ago, he's going to miss six straight weeks if he misses this week. So I think that's what it might be. It might be a little bit of free agent management. Yeah. If you're Kenny Goliday at this point, you have.

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A lot of reasons to not get on the field. You have nothing to gain by getting on the field. He's already proven that he's a number one elite wide receiver that's already proven. Your team's out of the playoffs. Only bad things can happen. Shut it down. Yeah. Yeah, maybe you don't see. Get that money. Yeah. Get your papers, Kenny. Yep. I agree. And if it's Chase Daniel, confidence levels are going to go way down. You know, T.J. Hawkinson, you've been playing him. You're going to keep playing him. Generally, tight ends are...

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short yardage friends of backup quarterbacks and T.J. Hawkinson will be that. Corey Davis, you can play them. The variance is going to be, it's going to be there. I mean, that's the situation. I would still play. As a fringe two flex type of a play. I agree. Everything we talked about, Tanna Hill will be split up mostly between AJ Brown and Corey Davis. I think Corey Davis is a fine play. And obviously, DeAndre Swift is someone that I am.

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I am starting this week. With or without Stafford, but obviously I'm limiting my expectations if Stafford is not there. The Texans are four or nine. They're taking on the nine and four Indianapolis Colts. Oh, palindrome game. Colts are seven point favorites. It's a 51.5 point over under. Believe it or not, this would be. I'm walking on there. Sorry. That's all I can hear. This is one of those games that jumps out to me.

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years of divisional matchups and looking at these game lines where this is on that almost upset category to me. The Colts are heavy favorites. It's 51 point over under, but Deshaun Watson finds a way. Should get Brandon Cooks back in this game, and I think it might be a little closer than these seven points. So we'll see, though. It might be impossible for Watson to do that because the Houston rushing defense.

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probably won't be able to stop Jonathan Taylor. Deshaun Watson against the Colts just a couple weeks ago. He had 340 yards, but he had no touchdowns. No passing, one rushing. Yes. Yes, I'm sorry, no passing. Yeah, I was looking at him looking at this game. The 341 was great against this Colts defense. Colts defense has actually been beatable. Beatable lately. It's not the first part of the year. The last six weeks.

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20th against quarterbacks, 26 against running backs, 25th against tight ends, still good against whiteouts. But I'm interested in Deshaun Watson in this game. We're going to talk about him. Oh, my. I know. Wow. Yeah, I actually, I love that. I love that personally. And part of the reason for that is Kiki Colts.

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Um, because, if we got T.Y. Houston, now we got Kiki Colts. Kiki Colts has three 100 yard games in his career and they are all against the Colts and their zone defense. Really? Yes. So would you go Kiki Colts over Tyron Johnson out of asking for a friend? I would because we've seen more of Kiki, his involvement and.

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I still trust Deshaun Watson more than Herbert, not necessarily from solely a fantasy perspective, but just getting the job done. What's the chance that Deshaun Watson has a collapse game and gets figured out? It's just not going to happen. It actually shocks me that Kiki QT has three 100-yard games in his career. And then when you tell me that there are three against the Colts, very interesting. Now you've got me thinking.

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Other storylines from this game to David Johnson coming off the COVID list? I'd rather not. I think he's an okay play. But who did you bring up earlier? Well, we were talking about potential starts across from Melvin Gordon. I'm trying to remember the running back we brought up earlier that would have been in this category. Like David Johnson. Clyde? No, Four Nett.

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Oh, goodness. That's not even remotely close. It's David Johnson. I would play David Johnson. David Johnson, just some context, because I know he's missed games. He's been, you know, uninspiring for sure. He has three games on the season where he's not a top 24 running back. He's actually been just fine. Yeah. And this matchup against the Colts, like we said, the last six weeks, they're just, they have not been the same as they were to start the season.

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And I think David Johnson will be utilized and always has a chance of a touchdown. So I'm fine. I think I put him right next to Melvin Gordon. Like that's the type of player you're getting someone that should be a top 24 back, probably won't be a top 12 back. These two teams played two weeks ago. Colts won by six. Watson fumbled when they had a chance to take the lead at the end of the game. This game's going to be more competitive than people think. Ty Y Houston. Yup. Yeah. Play him.

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He might be Mike's permanent start of the week right now. I'm sure the Texans figured him out by now. I have seen a lot of questions about Michael. I've seen Michael Pittman questions. Last three weeks, he's been outside the top 58 at the position. No, I'd play QT over Michael Pittman. We joke around the office because Andy saw it from even weeks prior to the two-game breakout that we saw from Pittman. Pittman has one route.

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As far as when he catches the ball. Maybe he runs Phantom routes. It's hard to call it a route even. Yeah. It's a crosser. He just runs across the field. It gets hit in perfect stride. Yep. That's a good job, Philip Rivers. And then sometimes he's able to take that to the house. Yeah. He did that in two back-to-back games. He could do it here. That's it. That's his whole route tree. He could do it here. But that's the way it comes. Will he break a crossing route across the field to the end zone? Yeah. Yeah. That's it.

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lower than 50%. Right. He's a more upside play because of his athleticism than other wide receivers, like a Hunter Renfro, for example. But he has a real low floor. Trey Burton and Mowali Cox might not play in this game. Oh, baby hands! So baby hands Jack Doyle could be a sneaky last second start for...

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Somebody. I mean, Mike, if you've got Dalton Schultz, the problem is in order to have that confidence, you need Burton and Mowali Cox to be out. That is correct. But if I knew they were out. Now, Jason, you follow the weather, probably closer than both of us. Out of curiosity, how sunny do you think it will be? I'm asking on behalf of Jordan Akins. Well, fortunately for him, it's a dome game. So it shouldn't be sunny. Shiny underside of that dome, or are we good? We are completely good. Do they have spotlight capability?

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Yes, if you are maybe a Colts fan, just bring a flashlight and you can stop Aiken's from doing anything you want. Gosh, that was painful. Just shining his eyes. That was painful. All right, let's move on to our starts. Starts of the week. Let me speak on behalf of all of us, starts of the week wise. And for those saying, why didn't you talk about Jonathan Taylor? Yeah, you start Jonathan Taylor.

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in that game i my start of the week yeah jonathan taylor all of our and everyone's start of the week yeah all right let's kick it off starts of the week for week 15 and um jason why don't you why don't you start sure i'm going to go back to the aforementioned tom brady uh i i am absolutely fine playing him in my playoffs he has lit up the playoffs before there's

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