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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 12 Thanksgiving Episode Part 2, Matchups, Mailbag

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He's on the wrong line of skirmage. It was just awkward. But he's actually the second most consistent fantasy player in terms of, you know, the balance between stud games and bus games. He doesn't really give you bust games. I mean, you have a baseline with Marshall. He's a really good two for your fantasy team. Let's talk about Landry. What do we expect from Jarvis, Landry? I think Landry can be okay. The Jets defense, we've been...

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We're basically killing the Jets defense right now. They have not been great just all around. I think Landry is still a safe start. It's not a thing where I look at the matchup and just freak out and I bench him. Somehow we still have seven games to talk about. Wow. Okay. So we're going to move it on.

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The Vikings, and we're going to keep it. We'll get everything we need in there, but we're going to try to keep it concise. This is me telling you guys what we're going to do because never. Otherwise, they'll die. All right, the Vikings take on the Falcons in Atlanta. The Falcons are in a tailspin, and I think it continues. Ooh. They're favored at home. This is Matt Ryan. We already got him as a sit of the week for Jason. You're starting Adrian Peterson. The question is going to be about Devante Freeman.

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Yep. You start Devante Freeman if he's back, even against the matchup that's, I mean, what's what I expect him to be in RB2 against a tough matchup against Minnesota. But we've seen even when he doesn't score, he's just so utilized that he should be fine. Do you start Kevin Coleman if Freeman sits? I do. Yep. Yeah, I do. Wide receiver wise, Stefan Diggs. What are your feelings about him right now? Oh, man. Are you digging him? Can you dig it? I'm going to.

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I'll play him if I got to, but he's a low two. Whoa. What are you looking at? Our rankings. Mike, do you know where you have DeVant Freeman ranked? I ranked him as if he was going to play, yes. Numero uno. Yeah. If he plays, Freeman is still a top elite option for me just because of volume, where even if he runs for 30 or 40 yards, he's going to get 50 or so yards through the air, and his likelihood of scoring a touchdown is very great.

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Yeah, I don't have any problems with that. If you're looking at my rankings, I statted Freeman believing that he's going to play. Now, let me throw one thing out there, very interesting. Those are not the stats of a guy I think will be on the bench. Right, right. Fair, fair. Yeah, yeah. The number one running back who didn't even play. Believe it or not, the Falcons give up the least amount of yards on the ground per week in the entire.

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Football. In the entire football? The effects of the... The effects of the Megalodon show are starting to show. They're at home. Do you expect Adrian Peterson to have an Adrian Peterson type of day? I do. Okay. That's all there is to. I think he'll have a good game, but I don't think he's going to be just like that number one guy of the week having a monster. Monster game.

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And I don't know if we spoke to Stefan Diggs and answered your question. I think Stefan Diggs is a fine play here as a low-end wide receiver 2. His utilization has been okay. He had the week before last. It wasn't really used. But he came back last week, and even though he didn't get a touchdown, he had a good amount of receptions, good amount of yards. So he's okay to play. And an interesting note on the descendants of Roddy White.

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Apparently, when they started the last week's game, they had scripted out about three or four plays, two Roddy White. That went five yards total gained on like three or four plays. So, man, Roddy White. Sianara. We loved you. Sianara. But we're, we're all about that new hotness. Sit of the year. That's pretty good. So it's Hankerson over Roddy White, despite the targets of last week. And it's Hulia over Hankman. Jason, Jason. Jason.

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Would you start or sit, Julio Jones? I would definitely, I think Roddy White's going to have the bigger game this week, so you got to go, Roddy. Think about real quick, before coming into this year, the three old men that we had so close together, not we, but the entire fantasy world, Roddy White, Andre Johnson, and Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah. One of those things is not like the others. My preseason hated Roddy White.

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loved Andre Johnson, so it was rung there and was mediocre on Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah. So. Anyways, just fun to music. Giants, take on the redskins. Well, hold on. No. Tight-ins. Kyle Rudolph, coming off a monster game. Are you going to stain the flames or are you going to put him back on the bench? I think the embers are simply burning. The embers are burning. They're not flames for me for one game. You might pick up, but... If I have a better option...

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You know, a normal barnage gates. Those guys are all getting starts above him. If I'm having to flip a coin between him and Iber, and then I'm just am sad about my team. So the Giants and the Redskins, we do have Jordan Reed as your start of the week in this game if he plays. Also, you've got Eli Manning, your start of the week at quarterback in this game. And Deshaun Jackson, my start of the week on the other side. Oh, we like this game. Well, and so does Vegas, right? High point spread. So.

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Let's talk about some of the guys we haven't discussed already. Let's go with Matt Jones. Alfred Morris is dealing with a rib injury. There could be some baseline production available for Matt Jones, am I right? Yes, I completely agree that if Alf is to miss the game, then Jones is a decent start. Could be some rain in this game, too. And the other guy who, if you're going super sneaky, is we've talked about him before, but it's Chris Thompson. And I think Washington...

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is likely to be trailing this game, which game flow, if you're trying to read into that, that says Chris Thompson's going to be on the field a good bit. And if Matt Jones continues his streak of fumbles, he's, he's done. You're going to see Chris Thompson nonstop. Yeah. So he's a decent, if you really, really have been hit by the injuries of the running backs, then Chris Thompson. I've been pretty disappointed in Thompson's.

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workload since week six. You know, he's only had two, one, three in terms of reception. So that would be my concern. But if Morris misses the game, then it changes that equation quite a bit. Now, if the rain is a little bit heavier than, you know, light rain is okay if you got a little drizzle. If it rains a little bit more, what you're going to see.

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probably working against my Deshaun Jackson is the shorter passing game, which would be one of the guys that I think is not talked about enough on our show is Crowder. Jameson Crowder is a rookie against a not a very good passing defense. You know that's Jason's street name, by the way, Little Drizzle? I did not know that. You didn't know that? We've been calling you that for years. On the street. Yeah, only on the street. I just cut off a very good point about James and Crowder to call him Little Drizzle.

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Worth it. Nailed it. All right. Raiders at Titans. Marcus Mario is my stream of the week. I like the matchup. I like him at home here. I like him getting Kindle right back into the mix. I don't like Antonio Andrews at all. I really don't. What did he do to you? I think David Cobb is going to be more involved. Really? I projected Antonio Andrews. David, David Cobb was involved last week. Involved in negative runs. Well, okay. Yeah, I don't care.

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Okay. I don't care. It's his first game back. He's a rookie. The coach's staff came out and said he needs to get more work. They need to get him more involved, and they lost the game. So I don't think that there's anybody in the Titans organization that says, well, you know, Antonio Andrews is our future at the running back position. So he's productive, but he's not prototypical running back the way that David Cobb is, at least in the makeup. All that being said, I like Delany Walker as the start of the week.

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Now, the Titans are a really, really good pass defense. So you guys tell me, the Cooper, Crabtree, Latavius Murray, Carr, what are you expecting from a team that's facing the Titans who are third in the league against the pass? You have to temper the expectations, but I'm still, I'm not going to let last week's reign on my parade. The horribleness.

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That was up there with Derek Carr in Detroit. I'm not going to let it dissuade me. Really? From jumping off the bandwagon. I'm still going to start Cooper. I'm still going to start Crabtree. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm still going to, I know the defense. I know the matchup is bad, but I'm not going, I'm still believing in what the Raiders have done for the majority of the year. And I disagree. I have Carr.

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in our listener league, and I won't be dropping him. I'll be benching him. I think there are so many good streaming options this week that I will probably pick up somebody from the waiver wire and start them over car for this week. When it comes to Cooper and Crabtree, it just depends on who you have on your team, whether or not you start them. They're not a guy that you go, hey, these guys need to be sat. They need to be a sit of the week.

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They're lower in my brain. Derek Carr is a quarterback won this week. I don't doubt that. Let me look at my rankings here. Just give me a second. You have them the highest, so that would be funny if you said no. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm not going to make that back. Okay. All right. I'm not going to make that. Okay. And it was just a matter of the Titans have given up only 214 a game through the air and this game's in Tennessee. I don't think Carr stinks, but I think you just have to temper it like you said. We all have Derek Carr ranked as.

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a quarterback one. He's just a low end quarterback one. Yeah. And on the other side, the Raiders give up 250 plus yards in 90% of their games in terms of the quarterback position. So Mariotta, that's the basis for that stream. Let's move it on. Let's talk Cardinals. Let's talk 49ers. The great Palmer Gabbard matchup of 2015. You're raising your hand. I am because I see an obvious question that I think people could run into. In this specific game, would you

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Andy stream or play Derek Carr or Marriota. Who has the Better Fantasy game do you think? If you've got Derek Carr, do you go out and sign Mariotta or do you play Derrick Car? I know what our rankings say. I'd rather play Mariotta. But I don't want to lose car rest of season. So if it was a matter of that, I probably, you know, if I'm in a must win,

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I'd rather start Marioada. If I'm in a prep for playoffs, I'll take the number that Carr gives me. I don't think he's going to be some giant gap between the two. I just, that's how I'd approach it. Okay. All right, so Cardinals go to San Francisco, take on the 49ers. 49ers have a little bit of fight in them. For a team that's struggling this year, they came out, they kind of came back in the game against Seattle last week. That's the best way that I can spin this game to be competitive. Cardinals are sixth against the run.

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Eighth against the past. The 49ers are 27th against both. Palmer's on fire. I love Chris Johnson in this game. Yeah. Love him. Yep. Ranked him very high, probably way higher than you guys. Probably. I doubt it. I think I really like Chris Johnson in this game as well. He looked good last week. No, don't doubt it. You guys have him at 24 and 15. I have him at 3. What? I have Chris Johnson at 3 in this game. I think it's a Chris Johnson.

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high workload, high production type of game. They just gave up 209 on the ground to Thomas Rawls last week. Yeah. I don't at all... The logic, I think, is pretty sound. What it comes down to me is touchdowns, and I just think that the touchdowns will go to Palmer. Bruce Ariens, if people are concerned at all, maybe the Cardinals are going to not full throttle this entire game, they will. And I like Palmer. He's...

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Either my number one or my number two quarterback this week. He is a must play over basically all other options. And the same can be said for Larry Fitzgerald. I think he's going to have a monster game. Him and Brown, Brown, who looks healthier. So let's talk about John Brown. How are you guys feeling about him coming off of his hamstring injury? Got more involved because anything over a zero is more involved. I'm feeling a lot better about him.

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He got involved. They had two into rounds to him. He got rushes. He seemed to be running well. It's a confidence booster. I think if Michael Floyd's back, then you, you know, I don't know if I'm starting, John Brown. Yeah, if Michael Floyd is out. I agree. That's what I was just going to bring up. I think if Floyd is out.

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John Brown has to step up a little bit more. This is a defense that's beatable, even in the screen game or the short game. So I'm fine with John Brown. I actually, when I was statting him out, I felt like I was giving him a little bit of love. He's 35th in my rankings, which I think is a little low for John Brown this week if Michael Floyd is out. On the other side of the ball, the Niners, can you start Sean Drone? Yes. Yeah, I'm glad you brought him up. Yep.

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