Fantasy Football - Week 4 Studs & Duds + Jason Goes Full Tilt - Podcast for 9/29

Okay. Nick Chubb is, uh, times running out for Nick Chubb. Yeah. 44% of snaps. Yeah. He, he, I'm not dropping Nick Chubb, but I'm going to try and bench him. Panic alarm for Lad McConkie. One for 11 on six targets for Lad McConkie. Yeah. That's, I would need to go back and watch the targets, but. He had some, uh, huge like drops in this game. Cause Herbert is getting rushed. Herbert completed. I mean, obviously Lad McConkie helped him on that one, but he completed 56% of his passes this week against the Giants. I mean, panic alarm, not full panic yet, but we are approaching it.

I think we said last week, we'd rather have huge than Lad rest of season for this week. Correct. Um, Lad right now is slotted in as one of the biggest first two round disappointments that you, that you could have drafted. Yep. Um, AJ Brown two for seven. And he is also one of the bigger disappointments you could have drafted. Yeah. And he's, he's vague booking. Oh man. He's so back. We are so back. Uh, we got a quote here from AJ Brown after losing the game. He put this quote up. He says, quote, if you're not welcomed, not listened to.

Quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and be on your way. Four and oh, Philly. Um, yeah, it's tough to have wins. Now, I know you just probably read his, his stat line. Mike, look away. What am I looking away for? Do you know how many yards AJ Brown had? Uh, I remember you talking about him a lot. I'm going to go. We're under 20. Correct. Okay. Are we under 15? Correct. Under 10? Correct. No. No, no. Yeah. Get. I want. We're about specifics. We're about detail here. Seven. Bingo. Now, seven yards. How many targets? Seven. More. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, brother. No. Hey. Nine targets. How do you turn nine targets into seven yards? Because, Jason, targets don't matter. We've learned that on this. Oh, that's right. Thank you, Andy. Andy is famous for that. Targets don't matter. And proven right again, man. Proven right again. Cleveland. In Cleveland. Or Philly. Apparently. I mean, Devontae Smith. Nine targets? You end up with seven yards? Well, he had the, he was strapped. They had him locked down. Three straight targets on that last drive. And he was clamped. What do we do with Brian Thomas Jr.? I mean, this was not that bad of a game again.

When you say not that bad, you're correct. But if that is the case, it's not been bad the whole season. I think it's less bad in reality than it is in our minds. 8.5 fantasy points. 6.9 fantasy points. 6.5 fantasy points. I'm going to. 8.1 fantasy points. Those are his four weeks. I will try to trade for him this week. I would, too. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to try again. At least he caught the passes this week. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter's a non-factor. The fact Britton Strange is leading the team in, I think, receptions or targets, not good.

So, Ted Oroa McMillan, what are we doing now? We're four weeks in. Ted McMillan, four for 62. I saw some targets that, like, the targets are always there, but obviously they don't matter. But, I mean, Ted McMillan is sitting at a catch rate of 50%. Three for eight last week. Four for eight this week. I'd like to say he's a trade for. Three of eight. You mean three for four? Three of eight. Yeah, yeah. I'd like to say he's a trade for a target. He hasn't gotten in the end zone, but the kind of polarity, the fact that the Panthers

have looked like maybe the worst team in football in three of their four games, and then they dominated Atlanta at home. Like, now they've been on the road three times. They lost all three of those games looking horrible. They're at home for a couple more weeks. Is this the moment before they come home? This is the moment. I would trade for Ted. I'm still in on Ted Oroa McMillan. He, through four weeks. Would you trade A.J. Brown for him, Jason? Yeah. I think I would. I would. I'm going to go make that offer right the heck now. Obviously, there's some more wide receivers that need to play tonight because we have

the two full games. True. But as of right now, even while it feels very disappointing, rookie wide receiver Ted Oroa McMillan on that bad team is the wide receiver. He's 25 is what I'm seeing. It's not. That's not what you. But with zero touchdowns as well. It's a quarterback problem, though. It's whether you believe that Bryce Young is going to effectively get him the football on a regular basis. He's effectively trying to. The targets are there. He's on a pace for 170 targets. So that's a buy normally. Miami and Dallas are the next two games and they are at home.

This would be your moment, I think. Yeah. I would be buying in right now. And if we get to the end of week six and he has not made, we don't have some sort of statement game either against Miami or Dallas. Like Matthew Golden. I'm not going to call it a dud game, but super disappointing. Super disappointing. So we should talk about. So he was at like eight and a half fantasy points. He had the target in the end zone at the end of the game. I agree. It's a disappointing game. I mean, how many he had a what was like a 20 yard catch in overtime.

So it was it took overtime for him to get there. Let me it was it was not overtime. It was the field goal. Oh, it was right before to get to overtime. Was that what it was? OK, it was the fourth down conversion to try to get the field goal to go to overtime. But but I would say like so there's two players that Golden and Jameson Williams want to talk about Golden. I am worried about. Yeah. Because of the snaps. And the opportunities I go watch. Go watch the green bag game. I don't have the numbers in front of me.

If you want to know when they're going to run the football, just look to see whether Matthew Golden's on the field. Matthew Golden was like off the field every single time. It was a designed run play. And they have a lot of different weapons there. I expected them to have a chance at a deep shot. They didn't really take one. They had the early one where he caught it in Wicks and him were in the same spot. Which it looked like the ball was going to Wicks. And Matthew Golden's like, that's I'm gonna take that. Give me that. It is a tough call because we expected the breakout game in this one.

I don't know what the final numbers were. I think he had like five catches. Five for 58. He had the end zone target at the end. You know, it's like if he catches that ball, does your perspective completely change on the season? I don't know. I was a little disappointed in the snap counts. So yeah. That was my opinion there. It feels like he is who we thought he was. You know, I know we are excited going to a good offense with a first round draft capital. But this was a surprising like before the NFL draft. We knew he's a talented wide receiver and a special athlete.

Both of those things are true. But he did not project or profile as an alpha wide receiver. As a, you know, a team leader at the wide receiver position, we kind of hoped and gave him that based on his draft capital and then based on Jaden Reed's injury. But this is a guy who never had a thousand yards in college. Sure. Like why would he come to the NFL and dominate and take over the NFL when he didn't take over his, you know, his team in Texas? So, you know, I don't know. I think he is not. He'll have a lot of big games.

And I think he's going to be in his career a great best ball player. I don't know that he ever develops into what he has never developed into prior to the NFL, which is the alpha possession receiver. The guy who has a target market share that says, give me that. Oh, there was Kyle. Kyle managed to pull this data very fast. He was on the field for five of the 22 Jacobs carries. That's what I noticed. I knew exactly what the team was doing. I hate it when teams do this. They do this all the time. To me, it's like the biggest tell ever.

Just look for zero. If he's not out there, go tackle the running back. That's about, that's how it worked. Jameson Williams, he was two for 40. Every time we looked at the television, every time it looked like he was going to catch an 80-yard touchdown. He smoked the defense over and over and over and over in this game. His average depth of target was nearly 27 yards. Just him and Goff could not connect. He's a bust so far, right? Yeah, probably. What is your, is he trade for, neutral, trade away? He's pretty neutral to me because you've got to know what he is, which is a big play,

like huge week, but very, like his variance, he could easily, half the games going forward, go out there and score less than five fantasy points. It was awesome to see the eight targets. He was this, he was targeted on 32% of his routes, which is, that's a tremendous number. So they took so many shots that should have worked. Yes. And two of them, I, this is from memory. I don't have the data in front of me, but I think two of them were his fault, like drops. Agreed. I know one, one was, oh, he turned to the right and then turned to the left.

I, that was a drop of all drops. I know. Not a drop of all, you didn't have to overstate it. I would have agreed with you if you said it was a difficult catch. It was a drop entirely on him. $80 million receivers make that catch. It was a difficult catch that was a drop entirely on him. Jared Goff put that ball in a catchable place with plenty of time and air, and he did not catch it after it hit his hands. But the others were all missed. Like the others, there were so many plays where it was, he's going down,

he's torched the defense. And then he underthrew it. And then he underthrew it or overthrew it. It was weird. It was wild. But if you watch the game, Jamison Williams had the best game of sub-five fantasy points I've ever seen. Like he was dominant and a complete failure. He was disappointing. Yep. And let's have a conversation. Brock Bowers. Let's have a conversation. I mean, Gino. Brock Bowers is, his average depth of target has gone from 11 to 9 to 6 to 2. He's caused two of our chopped league teams to be chopped. Oh, yeah. He was on one of the chopped teams.

He was. And now he's chopped again. And I bid a lot to have Jack squat for him. And he's going to hit the waivers again. Because he was the chopped. You guys should pay up for him. He was the tight end one. And then he was 16, 14, and currently 17 on the week. He hurt his knee. That will be pushed lower. He hurt his knee in week two. Yeah, he did. And this is the conversation. Gino's not been good. They're not running him on downfield routes. Ashton Jinty does change what the offense was doing last year. They didn't have any running game at all.

Now Jinty involved in the passing game. Now Jinty involved big running game. I mean, they were running Zemir White last year. He was a healthy scratch this week, I believe. Raheem Moser. No, I said last year. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Zemir White was a running back last year. And so I'm just saying, having a running game, having a different quarterback, having a different offensive coordinator, having an injury, like Brock Bowers, he's such a big name. If you don't believe that it'll get right for him, he is an easy player to trade. That's all I'm saying. I would say if you wanted to trade him away right now and you can get a haul,

great. Warren plus. Jalen Warren? No. I don't think you'll get it. Tyler Warren. Oh, yeah. I would do that. And I think you could. No, I think you could. I don't think you could. Would you do it straight up? I would do it. Yeah. He wanted to make sure that sound bite wasn't off. It was. It's close. But if I could get Tyler Warren plus, I would do it. I believe that this issue we're seeing right now with Brock Bowers is the knee. And so the second half of the year, you know, they've got a week eight bye. So that's a month from now when he's, you know, two months and a week of rest

recovered from that knee. I think he's going to go out there and dominate. I mean, all those things. That's a scary amount of time away. It is. That's why I would be willing to take Tyler Warren plus. But, you know. I think you would have to. I don't think that trade goes through. I do not. It might not. Tyler Warren is currently. Week one was 11.4 points. This is a half scoring for him. 11.4. 10. Five against Tennessee. Gross. And then currently just under 16 points this week. There is currently the tight end three. He's been. Just say like if I have if I have Warren and someone comes to me and says, hey, I'll give

you Brock Bowers. If you give me Warren plus the trade conversations done. I'm going to laugh in your face. I'll be like, yeah, sure. OK. I'm going to take the guy who's dominating right now as opposed to you. You might. But I don't know if everybody. You can. Yeah. Go ahead. I don't think if everybody everybody a spot, you know, new Tyler Warren. He's a rookie coming into the league. I think in some other leagues it might be different. Juwan Johnson, three for 28. Sam Laporta, three for 39. Both duds. Juwan Johnson got injured in that game, right? He just he had a play where he looked a little shook up.

I don't think anything got officially reported. He came back in and played? Yeah. He did. Yeah. He actually played the same amount of snaps this last week. 90 percent. Sam Laporta, disappointment. TJ Hawkinson, disappointment. He's only been above six fantasy points one time this year. I mean, I really thought Hawk would get it done in this game. The fact that there was a complete negative game script or I guess positive for what he needs to do and didn't get anything going, I would into the into the shadow realm. Hawkinson, I'm done. Mark Andrews still had eight targets with seven for 30.

Isaiah likely was not targeted. Yeah. Isaiah likely played around 45 percent of the snaps, I believe. He's just working his way back in. Andrews did what I mean, old guys. Andrews, eight targets, seven for 30. Travis Kelsey, five for 40. It's just like these are. Yeah. These are small like. Zachary, two for 21. Safety valve type of guys now. One of the biggest names I saw actually in the Monday Punday, but none that I settled on, was David Njoku, who was two for 11. So David Njoku at this point is. Harold Fannin ran more routes than in this. Yeah. Njoku.

It's is. I mean, 11 yards. He's unplayable. He. So I had him in three of my eight main leagues and going into this week, I replaced him everywhere I could. He's unplayable. And Harold Fannin Jr., the rookie who looks awesome and is awesome, equally unplayable. These two guys are taking each other's work. They're splitting a good tight end and they're making it into two bad tight ends for fantasy purposes. You remember when I said the targets don't matter in Cleveland? Six targets for Harold Fannin, two catches for Harold Fannin. They're not good targets so far this year. Every single one of their receiving options has underproduced from that target to catch ratio.

Before that, he was an 83% catch rate. Harold Fannin? Yeah. He's catching the shallow stuff. Yeah. So, I mean, Detroit, terrible week. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. Well, Sutter Tillman will miss weeks. Yeah. Does it make you feel better, Jason? It wasn't just a hamstring injury. It's a bad one. It certainly made me, because I put him in my lineup, it made me feel much better knowing like he missed three-fourths of the game. And really, the second half is where I was waiting for that kind of, hey, we're down.

We got to throw it a lot. They did. They threw it every play to Jerry Judy who couldn't catch the ball. And so, yeah, I mean, it's nice to know that the process was okay, but it stinks. And I've got Tillman in a handful of places, and so I've got him number. We have another update. If you want to pick the pickup of Woody Marks, we have a quote from D'Amico Ryans, the Texans coach. He specifically indicated that Joe Mixon is not ready to return at this time. And per sources, it will be much longer, if at all, for Mixon to get back on the field.

Who's your number one pickup for the week? Who's my number one? I mean... Woody Marks. Woody Marks is... He'll be the number one pickup. Who else would it be? I just wanted to make sure, but it's probably Woody. 37% rostered? Yeah. Let me ask you a question here. No, I won't trade him for Travis Hunter. I have a league... I have a league where I have lost CeeDee Lamb, Aaron Jones, George Kittle. This is a very deep league. We have three injured reserve spots. Okay. I drafted Joe Mixon. Oh. Oh, I cut him in a couple leagues. You cut him in a couple leagues?

I cut him in... Yeah. When I had limited IR spots, I cut him in a couple of leagues where I wanted to move Aaron Jones in. I've got three IR spots, and I'm like... No, I would cut Joe Mixon. The upside's not there. I mean, even if he got back out on the field in six to eight weeks... Yeah. You know, Woody Marks is there. Nick Chubb is there. Where's the team at that point? Is this team going to compete for the division? Is he going to be good after missing a year? Yeah. You know, or close to it? Fresh legs.