Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - The Rookie Show, Fantasy Outlook, Draft Day Foods

I think can develop into a good blocker. And he was great downfield and he runs the same type of route. So I like Bucky Hodges more than Evan Ingram. Bucky Hodges, my favorite part of his tape is when they line him up outside and he just becomes a downfield blocker. Because they put him on these DBs. The little tiny corners. And he's 257s. I mean, he is he.

It's not a good feeling if you're a little DB. He takes him out of the back of the end zone. He's like running them into the hall down, just blocking them forever. It's very fun to watch. My favorite part of him is his name, though. I mean, Bucky Hodges, that's an NFL tight-in name for a decade. Yeah, just like Jake Butt. Quarterbacks. We are adults. No, we're not. Someone gave us a three-star iTunes review because of the voice of public opinion. Oh, but. But you can, you make me sad.

Yeah, they said it's a five-star show, but the voice of public opinion was annoying. Oh, man. I'm sorry. I found that offensive. I find it highly accurate. All right, let's talk quarterbacks, guys. I've got some strong opinions at the quarterback position. I know, look, every year, it doesn't really matter how good the quarterbacks are. They're going to go in the first round.

There's going to be a few because the NFL teams are desperate for quarterback play. And we understand that. We've seen it year over year. You see how high guys like Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbard go. The names. Whoops. E.J. Manuel. I mean. Jamarcas. Yeah. I mean, this is a tradition, right? You're going to have some flops at the quarterback position. The question this year when we dig in is, look, we're a fantasy football show. So for one, is there a guy that can come out?

establish themselves over the first couple of years and become a player. I mean, look, last year, Carson wins. By all intensive purposes, great year. Not a good fantasy year. No, that's really my point is that great year. Met expectations or exceeded them from a team perspective, from a fantasy perspective, we're hoping that happens this year. Yeah. We're hoping that with the weapons and with the evolution of the player, it happens this year. You had a year where one, two, James Winston and Marcus Marietta.

They weren't reliable fantasy options that year. Since 2000, Carson Wins had the seventh best rookie fantasy season. So, like, you can't ask for more than that, and it was still irrelevant for fantasy. So none of these guys are anywhere near as good as Carson Wins, in my opinion, of the four major guys. And, you know, if you're talking about this year, forget about it. No one's coming in and helping your franchise this year, in my opinion. So, you know, look, we can be here and we can pretend to be.

you know, scouting experts. We're not. But I think that the best goal here is to say, is there any of these guys that we believe could develop into, and I'm not even going to go as far as just say Carson Winston. I'm saying, can these guys develop on a roster into a 10-year starter, into an Andy Dalton, Philip Rivers, even an, you know, an Andrew Luck type of guy. Now, the guys I want to bring up are the potential first round guys, Mitchell Trubisky, Deshaun Watson.

Patrick Mahomes, and then Deshaun Kaiser. Those are the big names. And you can throw Davis Webb in there if you want as well. He transferred out of Texas Tech where Mahomes was and went to California and really put up impressive numbers in his final season there in the Pack 12. For me, I like Mitch Trubisky. I think Trubisky is the most NFL ready quarterback. I love the size. I love the accuracy.

I love the smarts. And I think when you see a player, there's two sides to the one-year starter argument. There is the not enough experience, so it gives a coach hesitation. There's also the room to grow argument, because what is this guy and what can he become with even more experience? He had such an impressive year at North Carolina. What I love is that...

30 to 6 TD to interception ratio. I don't want this guy coming in. That's my concern with the guy like Mahomes, who I think has an incredible arm talent. But is he going to throw 18, 19, 20 interceptions? And Watson, who's got high levels of interceptions. So for me, if I were to rank him, it'd be Trubisky. And then I think I would take the chance on Mahomes. Then I'd go Kaiser and then I'd go Watson to round out my four. And now I'll just pass the mic. Sure. For me, Kaiser would be my number one.

I think he has the best combination of potential and level-headed maturity. Because, you know, Mahomes has the highest potential, right? It seems like these four guys, you kind of have sliding scales, right? Like Deshaun Watson has the least upside potential, but the lowest floor. Mahomes is, I mean... He could have the most potential. I don't know if that's kind of a... His arm.

is unbelievable. Yeah. His physical traits are things that make, you know, NFL GMs drool. But I don't think that he has the experience, the, you know, the level-headed mind of an NFL quarterback to succeed. Whereas when I look at Kaiser, I mean, you talk about the one year, right? If Kaiser had come out after 2015, he might have been a top two pick or three with, you know, after Wince.

Kaiser, there's plenty of knocks on him, right? There was a chance that he didn't want to keep playing football. And when I'm a GM, all I care about for my NFL quarterback is like, I don't want them to have a girlfriend. I want them to be married to football. And so that's a big red flag. You're mean. I don't love anyone in this class, but what I see with Kaiser is a strong arm can make every throw, huge body, and a level-headed mind.

I think he's got everything I need to say, you want a future Andy Dalton. Kaiser's my pick. Yeah, Kaiser's also my favorite quarterback of these guys. What's interesting for quarterbacks is it's so hard to scout guys to who's going to translate to be a good NFL quarterback because it's not like a running back or wide receiver where you can.

Look at these, how do they do at the combine? How athletic are they? And that can really help factor into, you know, who's going to be able to separate at the NFL level. Meanwhile, you guys, you have guys like Mahomes, senior year, put above over 5,000 passing yards. Dude, he had a game over 800 yards. And you have Kaiser, who is never above three. I mean, you have completely different offenses. 700.

It's, well, it was 800 total. Oh, I thought it was a passing yard. Yeah. So it's just very, very difficult. But of what I've seen, I like Jason pretty much made all my points of Kaiser is my favorite guy of this. You guys have read the Parcell's rules for quarterbacks before? Have you guys either? I don't think I have. Give them to me. He's come out and he's talked about this before about what he looks for in a quarterback. And so for him, it was he must be a senior because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.

needs to be a graduate, somebody who takes his responsibility seriously. Maybe that's a little, you know, get off my lawn, old school. Three-year starter, you need to make sure his success wasn't basically a one-time thing. But he was the guy for a period of time. If the next one is throws slowly, then you've got a home run here. You're describing Deshaun Watson. He must have at least 23 wins because big passing numbers, like Mahomes, must come in the context of winning.

ball games that is uh now it's interesting when you look at those college has changed so you look at there are you know romo manning breeze wilson rivers palmer and then eli manning those were four for four on those points for the parcells things but you have had guys like cam newton who was only a one of four of those um erin rogers was only two of those but it john watson fits all four right no he's not a senior

He graduated as a junior. Yeah, yeah. But he was a three-year starter. Right, right. So. Or no, two. And I think people, if they're listening, and we need to wrap it up before we get to get out of here and then get to the draft on Thursday in the draft show. Get those sleeps in. Get those sleeps started. You know, I think people are surprised maybe that Deshaun Watson's name didn't come up more in this conversation. And I think.

I think that's just, when you look at Deshaun Watson and you look at Mitch Trubisky, you see the exact inverse of kind of how the college game and the NFL game works. And you saw this with Tim Tebow, Heisman Winner. Now, Watson didn't win the Heism, but he was twice a finalist. Was a winner? Was great. And I'm not taking anything away from the person or player of Deshaun Watson as a collegian athlete. But you contrast him with a guy like Mitchell Trubisky, who plays 13 games, only one season in North Carolina. But as all the physical tools.

that translate to the pros, and you see the teams, you know, Trubisky is going to get drafted before Deschon Watson. And the odds of Deshaun Watson being successful in the NFL seem a lot lower to me than Trubisky. So it's unfortunate that that's the way it works, but, you know. I was talking about it's, it's hard to find metrics on these guys. And this, I was, Matt Kelly was talking about this from Roto Underworld. He was saying that throw velocity, which is, you can track that. That's an easily, easily trackable stat.

maxed out this season at 49. And there's no, not nobody, there's, in the NFL guys who throw under 50, Tyrod Taylor, Mike Glennon. Those are the two starting quarterbacks who their velocity is not over 50 miles an hour. So there is not a great track record of guys. I mean, that sounds, it sounds ridiculous. You're like, well, 49 or 51, but when you're throwing an out route, that is a major difference.

Yeah, for a defender to be able to jump that route. Yeah, and yeah, the distance the ball travels. We read an article on that. It's just, it's night and day. And then you combine that with his accuracy problems where he doesn't have accuracy mistakes that are all repeated. It's not constantly overthrowing guys or constantly underthrowing. It's just kind of sometimes is right on point, sometimes it's behind, sometimes it's ahead. Those are scary things for me.

When I look at college quarterbacks, I want an accurate guy, not a Logan Thomas. The tight-in? Yes, the now tight-in. All right, that does it for today's show. Hopefully you've got these names in your head. You're ready for the draft. We'll get you some more draft in team previews on Thursday as well as some mailbag from the Foot Clan.

And all the news and notes, anything we missed, anything we didn't get over the weekend recording this show a couple days early. And our live stream is coming up on Thursday as well right before the draft. Oh, my gosh. For the join the footers. I guess I like football. Mike, have a good trip. Thank you. And check out fantasy jocks.com. If you want to pick up a trophy, the promo code is footballers. Hey, oh. Goodbye.

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