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Dynasty Week Kickoff! Dynasty Tips, Debates, and Old Guys Who Can Actually Help - Fantasy Football Podcast for 5/11

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And phenomenal, and they're great. The only way that Jamar Chase makes sense here to be a top 10 wide receiver and startup picks is if he is locked, he's just a lock to be a top five fantasy wide receiver. Like then, okay, that makes sense. But if not, then this is a waste of a pick because first of all, he's not going to be that great.

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player until a couple years from now, usually following the general trends of, you know, history, you know, I have him comped more as like a DJ Moore type. That that's kind of where I see his future going versus a Devante Adams, you know, top.

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fantasy wide receiver in the league. And so that's part of this is just a different evaluation of talent and situation. We don't know for sure that Burroughs going to be great, that Jamar Chase is going to be great. And I can't imagine taking him over a veteran proven commodity. So that's why I have a much lower. When I look at my dynasty startup ranks and who I put above him.

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Those are the names where it's like I'm taking Chris Godwin and Michael Thomas and Terry McLaurin and C.D. Lamb and D.K. Metcalf and these guys that I know have done it over them. And to kind of show a little bit of where a top 10 ranking is over the last several years, our man the Borgogan has some hot research for us. Over the last six rookie draft classes, the highest in Dynasty startup ADP for any first round wide receiver.

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was Corey Davis, who was wide receiver 14. Sure. So a wide receiver 10 ranking is the best over the last six years. It's saying we know he's going to be unbelievable and we're pulling the trigger of that. Of the 18 first round wide receivers taken since 2016, there's only two of them so far that have entered the top 10 in Dynasty ADP by their second year in the league. So we are projecting a really, really otherworldly performance to have.

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Jamar Chase that high. I don't think he belongs that high. I would not draft him in a startup draft that high. Honestly, I feel like I've ranked him really, really high at wide receiver 19. But obviously, that probably is going alongside my pre-draft analysis that, you know, I didn't see the separation that you would want to see in an absolute stud. But he's obviously good. And I'm not anti-Jamar Chase.

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I'm just comparatively down on him. Okay. I think it's fair. I think I'm a little aggressive with my ranking with him. I'm actually surprised. I'm not surprised that Mike hasn't been high. I know he believes in the talent and likes him. And obviously the number five overall pick is a very significant place to go in the NFL draft. And I don't know if there's a way to fact check. This was just one of the things that came out during the draft process that Jamar Chase, when they pulled GMs or coaches, I can't recall which.

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He's the first unanimous number one wide receiver in a draft class since Calvin Johnson. So it's not just fantasy players who believe in Jamar Chase. It's the NFL believes in Chase. Without question. Yeah, without question. I'm excited. I think, you know, it depends on how you're building your dynasty startup composition.

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as well. I mean, so much we all were addicted to the rankings and putting them in a certain order. But the composition of your team matters too. You say, hey, I can't imagine not taking one of these established veterans. Well, I mean, how are you building your team? How are you building your dynasty startup roster? He's what, 21 years old? I mean, just barely 21. He's 21. As far as a quarterback situation goes, it looks like he has a long-term future. I mean, I would take him over Michael Thomas because.

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you're going to gain, you gain eight years in a dynasty league and the quarterback situation for Michael Thomas is really up in the air. Whereas Joe Burrow at, you know, it's all about what you evaluate and believe about the situation. But I think that's where you would draw the differences. Yeah. Just a difference of opinion there. I mean, I, you know, I want the guys that I know have done it and can do it. All right. I have Jerry Judy at 24.

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overall. Jason has him at 32, Mike 33. So I'm more bullish on Jerry Judy and I'm kind of falling in love. Now, is that with Roger, pre-Rogers or post-Rogers? It really doesn't have anything to do with Rogers. Rogers is a little like, what if that sits in the background of like this situation could become nuclear for Jerry Judy, like fast if Rogers is the quarterback. But he's 22 years old. And it wasn't.

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what you hoped for from his rookie season, but not for lack of trying. He was out there giving it his best every week. He was open a lot. 62% of his targets were considered catchable. That's 107th among all wide receivers. The most incomplete targets, Ian Hartitz put this out there, most incomplete targets that were determined to be the quarterback's fault. Jerry Judy was number one on that list. There were stretches of games last year.

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where he was on 100 plus target pace and 35 reception levels of... It's ridiculous. Season totals, which just says that there was a disconnect at the quarterback position. We know that disconnect. His name is Drew Locke. But, you know, he still went out, got 113 targets. He plays in the inside part of the field. I talked about that 10 to 19 range where Calvin Ridley's living. Jerry Judy was like...

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seventh last year in that department. He owns the middle of the field. He's got wheels. And this is year two for him. He is a 15th overall draft pick. I feel like in Dynasty, it's a no-lose proposition to trade for him right now where he's at. People are excited about Sutton coming back. Jerry Judy's coming off a kind of disappointing rookie year, 856 yards on 52 catches, just three touchdowns, which that's a number that's going to change over the course of his career.

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So I feel like they're going to fix the quarterback position, whether it's now with Rogers, whether it's a year from now or two years from now with a veteran. And Jerry Judy just has so much upside. You watch the film. He's, you know, a great dynamic player that just had a disconnect issue at quarterback. If you fix that, you know, I think the worst case scenario was this last year. But I think it can change very, very quickly, just 22 years old. And I am just really targeting him in all of my dynasty leagues right now.

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He should get better. He's young. Obviously, there were very few people more pro Jerry Judy than I was last year, had him in a lot of places. I do think that there is more that is on him than is credited. It's not 100% Drew Locke. He was open, but he dealt with a lot of drops. I remember watching and being very disappointed in some of those things. I still believe that Cortland Sutton is the alpha of the team. But I think you're right, Andy, that it...

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Right now the value of Jerry Judy is not at an all-time high, right? He came out and had a disappointing rookie season. You're not going to, like talking about, okay, you want to trade for Calvin Ridley. What's it going to cost you? Everything. You want to trade for Jerry Judy. That's a deal you can get done. That's where you could trade a veteran. Well, you can try. Well, right. I mean, I failed. You tried? Yeah, I tried a lot. What did you offer? I had to trade with Al. Ooh.

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I offered him quite a bit. I offered him Fuller and James Robinson for Jerry Judy. He's still trying to unleash the James. What do you expect me to do? Not hand someone a bag of flaming poop? And try and convince him that it's good for their team. Ask him who his third running back is on his dynasty roster. Oh, who's your third running back on your dynasty roster? Now does James Robinson sound slightly better? Yeah. Look.

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I like how I like how the argument here is that you can't try to trade your players that, you know, you have on. What am I supposed to do with James Robinson? Just sit in it? Yep. You got a hold and you get whatever value. I don't have to do nothing you tell me to do. But, but I think I like him a lot more than Sutton in a dynasty league. Cortland Sutton's coming off a major injury, unrestricted free agent in 2022. Jerry Judy.

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As more upside to me over the course of his career than Cortland Sutton does. No disrespect to him. I think Sutton's a great player. But I think the future of that team at the wide receiver position is Jerry Judy soaking up targets. And I don't think Sutton's going to hurt him this year at all. I do know this. I know that Sutton is referred to as the heart and soul of the locker room. He is like the leader.

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of that offense in the beat writer circles. So I fully expect it. I realize he's, you know, his contract is coming up, but everybody does this time after they're, you know, drafted. And I think he'll get a long-term extension. And this should be a good one-two punch. I mean, that's the thing for fantasy football. We know this. We talk about it every offseason is that there are so many teams that end up with multiple.

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top 24 wide receivers on the same team. You need that one to punch. I still have. You need a quarterback to be able to support that, though. Yeah, that's true. Yep. Mike has Rahim Mostert lower than both of us. 29 years old, Rahim Mostert. Mike has him at 37. We have them around 25, 26. Yeah. I'll admit, I mean, Mostert is a scary proposition for Diancy. The scariest can be because I feel like he could disappear in three weeks. And you kind of went quickly through that age part.

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Rahim Moster is 29 years old. Now, it's been a very different ride to where he has gotten in the NFL. He essentially came out of nowhere, had to work his way up. But he's 29. He is on the last year of his contract. His team just traded up in the third round to get a running back. They also grabbed another player in the sixth round. He's never really held up to a real workload.

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He played 16 games in 2019. But if you remember what happened, it was Coleman on the team. And Rahim Moster wasn't unleashed until the second half of the season. So they have never gotten a full-time workload for Rahim. He is an electric player. His story is awesome. I'm very happy that the man made the money that he made. But his replacement is already here. His replacement is on the team. And...

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This is exactly what I was talking about. I mean, a little bit more advanced in age than I was talking about with the running backs that are 27. But I would be trying to trade Rahim Mostert. You're not going to get extreme value. And maybe it's, let me say this. If I'm a contender, I'm probably just going to hold on to Mostert and let his fantasy value expire.

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on my bench after the year because he can still be very good. I think this year could be very, very good. I agree. It's very hard. He has fewer career carries than Henry had last year. He has 282 career carries and yet is advanced in age. And you look at the pace he was on to start the year last year. 1,200 yards rushing, 637 receiving. Yes, he was dominating. And yet, you're right. I mean, we've never seen a sustained...

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Which is counted into his value. I think people don't look at Reim Mustard as somebody who you can trust at all. But you're saying, you know, be a little bit more careful because he could disappear as a dynasty asset overnight. Yeah, if he gets... Next year. Next year, he's... It's done. Yeah, his career is one more season long. And it could be a great year because his legs are fresh. First four years of his career...

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He was on five teams and had 44 total carries. So to be clear, I'm not allowed to try to trade him next year. You can try, just like James Rod, hold it too long. Or you can gamble again. He's an unrestricted free agent after this season, and he'll be 30 years old. Like you said, they just drafted two running backs, but they spent good capital on Trace Sermon. So, yeah, his career is this year. And I understand having him lower in startup rankings. Like if I'm drafting.

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He could fall to a value where I would grab him, but he's certainly not someone I'm targeting. It's tough to draft a running, to draft this, because that's specific what I'm talking about. It's very tough to draft a running back that you know has one year max. Ironically. Yeah, you guys are giving me, I'm freaked out over here. Sorry, man. This has been a horrible episode.

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Why? I'd rather be ignorant. It's Dynasty Week. No, I'm kidding. But like, seriously, I'm sitting here going like, you are, you're putting it into my brain that this is his swan song. 17 games left in the career of Rahim Moster is what I'm hearing. That is correct. Well, no, you'll probably miss a few. Eight.

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