Week 8 Waivers & Streamers + Lineup Locks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/24

to give him more snaps. Now, he got injured. The problem was, is they were getting him out there more, and then he was knocked out with a concussion, finally returned from that, ends up seeing 62% of snaps and making plays in crunch time. If you're in a dynasty league, and for some reason, he is sitting out there on waivers, which is super possible, please toss them onto your roster like I did. Yeah. It was a great pickup. For redraft, I would agree. When Juju Smith-Schuster comes back, I worry about his long-term value. This isn't an offense of the Patriots that you really are clamoring for. But the drumbeat, if you weren't familiar with DeMario Douglas, from training camp and preseason, he was all the rage. And now this offense has stunk. And the first time that they really started getting it together and have an important divisional win over the bills, it was DeMario Douglas who was making the big important plays over and over.

That's where the rookie can just maybe win the job. But ahead of him would be Tank Dell, Josh Downs. Those players are looking really excellent as rookie wide receiver options. Kendrick Bourne has been very relevant for New England as well over the last couple of weeks. In fact, wide receiver 14 and 18 the last two weeks basically plays on every play. 16 receptions over the last two weeks on 18 targets? Do you have any redraft interest in Bourne? Like should he be on your roster? Yeah, if Juju's out. If I know that he's going to be on the field because it's 93% of snaps, both of the last two weeks. Those are the two weeks juju was. And week one, I don't remember what the wide receiver situation was because Bourne played 91% got the 11 targets, was the wide receiver four because of two touchdowns. And it was.

Dude, is Kendrick Bourne actually going to be a full-time player? Because he's been a spot start since his time in New England because he goes off every once in a while. I'd rather have him than Douglas in a redraft to be clear. But then the snaps plummeted back to 50%. Then they've been way up the last couple of weeks. And whenever his snaps are up, he produces for fantasy. Would you trade high on JSN? With the fact that Metcalf was missing, you had a really underwhelming game from Lockett. You have a really, really tough schedule, Cleveland, Baltimore the next two weeks. I would hold, because of what Jason was talking about, over the second half. And they, I mean, they finally stopped with all the freaking bull crap of JSN doesn't get any sort of depth on his targets. He was a real, he was a real boy out there. And what happens? Oh, look, he's the stud wide receiver he drafted in the first round.

the first wide receiver taken this year. Yeah, I mean, it's worth six weeks he had a cast on his hand. Yeah, that's fair. He was dealing with challenges blocking. And I loved the comments from his head coach, which is what led me to put him in my DFS lineup and be more excited about him was the fact that, hey, maybe he's just wasn't that healthy. And now, Brooks, you can't be serious. These drop candidates are really flying in? Yes, sir. Wow. Gabe Davis, Calvin Ridley, Tyler Lockett. Nope, nope, nope. I would not be dropping any of those guys. You can't drop those players. No. But, man, playing Gabe Davis the last two weeks feels bad. Oh, I've played him the last two weeks. I know exactly how it feels. I mean, that's that, Gabe Davis has certainly earned his way to being on the bench. But when you've got, you know, a good matchup, a high scoring projected game, Gabe Davis is a touchdown machine for an offense that is.

historically good. They've got some speed bumps right now. Now, I've got to bring this up because, you know, Mike, you came after Adam Thielen in his 33-year-old elderly body. But you have Tyler Lockett, who's been in the top 15 at the wide receiver position for five straight years, sitting at wide receiver 46 now, just 27 receptions total on the season. Is this a player that you expect to get it going? I do, but I understand the concern for Tyler Lockett, especially in a game against Arizona, which Tyler Lockett has destroyed Arizona many, many times. No DK Metcalfe. This felt like, okay, we're getting the, we're going to get the dust off. Tyler Lockett's going to be back. So him getting only five targets going four for 38, incredibly disappointing. But.

Are any of those? I'm putting him on the bench just like Gabe Davis and hoping that he heats up. That's what I was going to ask you. Are they any of these guys line up locks? No. Do you keep them in your lineup? No, I don't think they have to be line up locks, especially the next two weeks. The Seahawks and the Cardinals play the Browns and the Ravens, kind of they flip-flop the weeks. And so those two teams, you project bad things for a couple of weeks. That's where you could either trade people high now, you know, try to get something for Lockett, the name value, the name recognition, expecting that you're not really wanting to play them the next two weeks or and or trade for those players in a couple weeks because I do think brighter days are ahead for Lockett. He hasn't, to me, looked bad. It hasn't come his way. The touchdowns have been rushed in for Seattle. And we'll point out as well with the Cardinals schedule.

Michael Wilson, we've touched on his name. There's another player where it's like, I'm not starting Michael Wilson right now against Baltimore or Cleveland. But we need to make sure that we look his way in a couple of weeks because when Kyler comes back, I do think Michael Wilson has a really nice rest of season. Give me your top three tight-in pickups this week. And you can throw Tray McBride into the mix now because he's definitely relevant in terms of picking up an option. Where are you, where's your? Top option right now. There's three great options to me. My top option is Tayson Hill, but I think that the top options are Tayson Hill, Dalton Schultz, and Dalton Kincaid. The doctor was really good before the buy, a couple of games in a row. And, you know, maybe he's come into his own in this role. This was a new team. He was obviously been good for fantasy in the past. They need him.

So he's worth picking up. So what's your order on those three? Taysom Hill. I'll probably go Dalton Kincaid, then Dalton Schultz. The injury to Dawson Knox, I think is really important for the rookie Kincaid. And my question for Schultz is, though his success pretty much correlates with Tank Dell not being on the field. And the guy, Tank Dell, taking those slot targets, the middle of the field stuff. So did Dalton Schultz get a... kind of an artificial bump that will go away once take... I mean, I get it. That's a good question. You should go after Schultz if you're tight-end needy, being the tight-end five, six, and two in three straight weeks. You have to pay attention to that, but I have my concerns. Kincaid is at the top of my list. Yeah, I agree with that. Follow by Tayson Hill and then Tray McBride and the Dalton Schultz. I think McBride, you've seen the Arizona offense. The problem has been...

targets to tight ends, it's, you know, three-way sometimes because they have Swain there and Earths and McBride. McBride's been more involved, so I like, I just like going that direction with the potential of the offense. Taseom, we talked about the receptions. You like seeing that, but Kincaid is, he's got such a clear path now. Yes, he does. He's had some good games with Dawson Knox. Boy, Dalton's and Dawson's and all over the place. There's a lot. Is that just a tight-in name? Yeah. Tasms and Dalton's and Dalton's and, yeah. Dawson's. Um, yeah, if you want to put Kincaid ahead, I'm fine with that. I still believe that there are, you know, we've seen a lot of flashing from rookie tight ends this year in, you know, individual games and, um, Leportas looked good for most of the season. But Tayson Hill has really proven that he is a difficult to tackle superior athlete on the field. The way they're utilizing him.

The last two weeks, we've just never seen it before. Now, have you still getting. You'd have to watch the Saints. You don't have to watch. No, you could. You're probably going to have to. No, I'm going to take an Andy Holloway scientific method. And I'm going to make sure he's in my line about I'm not going to watch. But, but you don't watch players that are on the other team. You have to watch your player. Yeah, that is that is the policy. Yeah, you got it backwards. Yeah, you can watch, you can watch your own players. So when you watch. You just can't watch your opponent's players.

It's very... It's very ostrich. Yeah. But the utilization has been there. I mean, you... I have a sleep mask that I wear when my opponent is on the field. You're hoping that Kincaid gets, you know, six or seven targets. And that's what... I'm pretty heavy on the Kincaid side between this, too. Yeah. I feel like... I don't know what, Mike, how convicted are you of that difference? I would, I'd be going Dalton Kincaid. Over Tase him. Yeah. What is the matchups this week? Taysam Hill is a great one against the Colts and Cicade gets the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, Buccaneers pretty decent against fantasy tight ends, but it's just the snaps. I mean, it's the fact that, I mean, there's just not a lot of players to throw the ball to right now. They miss Cole Beasley in this office. I hate to say it, but they do. Other names to throw out there, Gerald Everett.

Okay, you can always take your shot there. That's a pickup for no fab. And then Logan Thomas, you know, we're back. Four for 51. The targets were there. I mean, it's okay to ride with him. That's not a big fab spend either. Agreed. Yeah. If Kincaid was somehow out there, which he is in like, what, 59% of leagues, I'd be spending $15 to $20 on him. Yeah, I'd be pretty aggressive. Yeah. Defensive options this week, Baltimore, please. If they got... you know, drop for some reason. They play Arizona. It's weird because they're rostered everywhere, but I'm in two different leagues. Why were they out there? Why were they out there? I grabbed them in one. You grabbed them in one. It's because they played Detroit and Detroit was averaging 30 points a game and people were afraid. People dropped them. The Chief's defense has proven to be great. They get the Denver Broncos this week, even though it's on the road. Not afraid. Yeah, that is a no, I don't feel like there's any way you're burned by that.

No, no, I would agree. You've also got, if you want to get sneaky, you want to look at like, well, yeah, those are great defenses. They're not available. You know, the jets are great against the Giants. Great. They're not available. You want to get stinky and nasty. The Atlanta Falcons. Oh, yeah. No, that ain't sticky nasty. That's good process, man. And the Falcons are a good defense. They really are. You want to look for. And they play Tennessee as the point. Rookie quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks being thrust into action. They almost always will have a couple of turnovers. They will take more sacks. The things that score for fantasy, that's usually my secondary focus. I'm looking for a great defense in a plus matchup. That's first. And then after that, I just look at, like, who is the quarterback they're playing? And tell me that they are brand new to playing quarterback. And I don't think Derek Henry has a good game this week. I mean, if you look at the fantasy points giving up,

to the running back position this year. Like Atlanta is dominating. They're second best in the league. You know, it's not every opponent that they face has Derek Henry, obviously, but they are keeping the damage to a minimum, making people beat you through the air, which Malik Willis and Will Levis aren't going to be able to do. And they haven't given up a single touchdown to opposing running backs. So I think this is one of those things where, you know, you thought Atlanta looks really juicy on the matchup sheet, and it's not been the case. And if you adjust for schedule to factor in the fact that they haven't played a bunch of Derek Henry's, they are still the sixth best given the schedule they've played. Packers are, sorry, the Vikings are sneaky this week against Jordan Love. Ooh, man. It's going to become Jordan 8th. Yeah, pretty soon. I call them Jordan Just Friends. Oh, okay. Yeah, the Friends Zone. The wheels have falling off. Yeah, I mean, they're not helping Jordan Love very much either.

You know, there's been a, Jordan Love has had a lot of downfield targets, so his completion percentage is very low. But no quarterback in the league has had more drops from the running back, or less completion, like a lower completion percentage from his running backs than Jordan Love. So they haven't done him any favors, not having Aaron Jones has hurt him. And you're just, you know, a couple completions last week that probably weren't his fault. And they win the game. Maybe we're talking differently. But Minnesota's defense did some stuff last night that looked really good. They're in the mix again. They're a really low-rastered dart-throw defense this week. The Jets play the Giants. The Giants play the Jets. I think the Giants' defense has looked outstanding for two weeks. And I know everybody's going to run to the Jets, and we don't even have the Giants on the list. But how are they not a play this week? Sure. I mean, they're at home against Zach Wilson. Well, Breesall's going to run for 150.

I don't think so, man. You don't? No, I mean, the Giants, the last couple of weeks, am I wrong? This defense? They gave up nine points. No, I'm sorry, they gave up 14 points to Buffalo, and then they gave up seven points to Washington. They've looked apart. Yeah, defensively, at least. Defensively. Not offensively. Do we know if it's going to be Tyrod or Daniel? Is it bad that I really want it to be Tyrod? No. because he has looked much better than Daniel Jones has looked to start the year. Did you have something you're going to add? I was curious if we know Zavian Howard, Jalen Ramsey, when these players are coming back because the Dolphins defense will get much better when those elite secondary players come back. And they've got a great matchup this week. I know it's been talked about like they're going to be back soon. So I'm just not sure if that's this week. But if it is this week, you know, Mack Jones and the Patriots haven't done anything.

offensively. It's a home game for Miami. I think they could score a lot of points. Certainly, this is from Adam Beasley. Certainly does sound like there's a real chance that Jalen Ramsey plays this week. And Howard was supposed to play against the Eagles. Like all the reports leading into that game was like, he'll be out there. He's looking forward to it. And then he just didn't play. Right. So if those two players are back at home against Mac Jones, they're available in the majority of leagues. All right. Let's talk quarterbacks. Full stream ahead. I. I'm going to share my streaming quarterback for the week. It's a, it's somehow a, with no bye weeks, it's not a great streaming week. No, it wasn't. It's not a great streaming week. And what I was getting to is that I am, Jason has chosen my number one least favorite to watch player as his. So actually, why don't you start, Jason? Okay. Well, let's send it in, baby. I don't. Send in the car. Dude, send in the car. So you're sending in the car? Hold on, hold on. I'll jump in here.

So I missed Friday's show because I was dealing with an emergency surgery for my dog. But that started Thursday night. I get home from work to uncontrollable vomit for my dog. And it's, don't crap, we got to take him in. So if you've ever taken a dog to. And he wasn't just watching Derek Carr. No, we haven't got to that part yet. But we, if you've ever taken your pet to an ER. It's just like a real ER where you can be sitting around forever and ever and ever. So we are waiting. And I'm just, I'm watching, like I'm dealing with my dog situation. And now I'm watching the game on my phone. So I'm watching Derek Carr. And I'm like, I don't know what I feel worse about right now. Oh, gosh. It would, I get the ending of the game was exciting. But to get to that ending was just an absolute fart fest forever. What was that? You remember watching Brady the final year?

Yeah, yeah. That's what it reminds me of the most, which is like you get a ton of pass attempts, but I don't want to see this. I don't want to see you target Rashad White a thousand times, Thomas. The first half of that game, I just, I wanted to print out a photograph of Derek Carr and just do, just throw up on it or something because it was. It was unwashable. You make me do this. I'm going to look you in the eyes while I do this. That's one of the most weird. I'm thinking, I thought you were going to say throw darts at it or like, you know, punch it. You print it out and then you vomit onto it. But now he's my stream of the week, baby. Here's the reason why I think he is an actual streaming candidate this week. The Indianapolis Colts.

We've talked a little bit about their pace of play. Shane Stuyken, I think they've really surprised in an impressive fashion. But they are going over the majority of their weeks, no matter what the line is. Five of seven weeks, they've hit the over. There's more plays run. Surprising, I mean, this last week. I did say it felt like there was an extra quarter. In the Cleveland game, it felt like there was legitimately five quarters. Targeting the. Colts games right now has been a successful brand of fantasy football. And you combine that with what we've seen from Derek Card the last two weeks, ugly, ugly, ugly, but 50 attempts and 55. Are you kidding me? He's throwing the ball a million times. He's actually disgustingly been a top 10 quarterback the last two weeks. Not to the eyeballs, not in NFL terms, but for fantasy purposes, those dumpoffs to Alvin Camara.

You know, you look at who's going to score touchdowns. You've got Michael Thomas or Alvin Kamara in the past game or Chris. Camara is averaging 9.8 targets at the running back position. What? The next highest is 5.6. That's so, so gross, so bad for your offense. But good for fantasy. All right. Just so you all know, associate Jason and Derek Carr this week. Jason? Hey, Derek Carr. It's tough in the streets right now. C.J. Stroud is the pick that I was going to bring up. Takes on Carolina coming off the buy gets Tankdale back. Nico's been great. Carolina's 27 against the opposing quarterbacks. This is the, I was happy to get into the dock before you guys. Yeah. It was CJ Stroud and then otherwise it would have been stuck with a guy like Derek Carr. Yeah. Or. Come on, Mike. Hit the button. I don't know. I'm going to say we have to go level three. Wait, you have a third level?

Unobtainium underpants. Yes, Unobtainium from Avatar. Wait, that's the third level of underpants. Yes. You will need all three. I kind of want to hear it again. Unobtainium underpants. Because the pick, it's Kenny Picket. It's not a good streaming week. We laid it out. Derek Carr, who was just top ten, that was against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jacksonville. The ninth best matchup and schedule adjusted points for fantasy quarterbacks. It was Kenny Pickett's best game of the year. Deontay was back. He's at home. We're talking, it was a 9.2 yards per attempt for Kenny Pickett. George Pickens still was able to do his thing. Pickens looks great. And with Deontay back and, and Najee Harris finally had himself an okay game. I know it was a great matchup for them, but.

I hope, I really hope you don't have to do it. But I think there is a world where Kenny Pickett ends up streaming, you stream him and you're like, hey, I got a top 14 quarterback this week. It would bring me great joy if you two wanted to like have a little Derek Carr versus can you picket bet? But I just, I would. It's just a bet of sadness. He said he would do it. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I'd rather have Derek Carr. I was the last one in the dock, man. You're putting on the underpants. Fine, put it on the board.

Waterbet. All right, real quick, though, beyond the streaming candidates we brought up, I do want to talk about Kyla Murray and, you know, stashing him on your roster. If he's out there, he's out there in 50% of leagues. The schedule, Baltimore, Cleveland, the next two weeks, it's gross. Like, I wouldn't have any confidence starting him if he was active in those games. But he's Kyler Murray. Like, this is going to be better in the future. I've got a couple teams who are like, I drafted Deshawn Watson. So I'm not happy there. And I'm throwing out, you know, Gino one week and then it's Russell one week. And then it's, you know, it's a competitive league where there aren't good options on the waiver wire. I don't want to start those other guys. I would rather eventually get to the point where Kyle Murray is the player I can play. Yeah. And in order to do that, you might have to stash him for a couple of weeks. You don't expect to have him back. Certainly not this week. And next week is.

50-50 right now. But it's worth it. I believe it will be worth it going forward rest of season. And the same, to a much lesser degree, is true of those ancillary options, the Michael Wilson's, the Trey McBrides, where you probably want to wait one more week, use your bench space now, but be a little bit ahead of the curve, get them before they break out. I think this week in particular, in... For all the reasons you like Derek Carr or all the reasons I'd be fine with Gardner Minchu. Like I think in that exact same matchup, like Minchu faced the Browns last week and managed to let the Browns have a huge fantasy day. And also four, he scored four times. I mean, two of those touchdowns are pretty wild. The rushing ones? No, no, no. Well, yeah, I got all four. But the passing touchdown to downs, which was like just somehow ended up a broken play, which was surpassed by the Michael Bittman play, which was even more broken.

But the pass attempts. I mean, if you're going to, like this past week, I guess it was only 23 attempts. But he had 55 the week before. And he does, he runs a bit. Yeah, he was the number three quarterback. So it's gross. It's nasty in the streets. Nasty men's shoe. And a reminder for for Kyler Murray, because it feels like forever since we've seen Kyler Murray play, the whole discussion has. of do the Cardinals tank and go get Caleb Williams and try and move on from Kyler, do not let all of that dissuade you or move you away from the fact that last year when Kyler Murray was playing, we have 10 full games of him, and only two times was he not in the top 12. Like he wasn't his elite normal self where we had huge spike weeks from time to time, but he was very solid and a very good fantasy quarterback. Absolutely.

All right, tomorrow we have Hungry for More, the Thursday night preview. We'll be getting into some second half sleeper picks. Yes, sir. Oh, my. Can Josh Jacobs be a second half sleeper? Because he's, he's already been asleep for the first half of the year. I've warned you about the buffet. I mean, it's just none of the, the storyline was a gag, Mike, and yet. Here we are. The nickname was a gag. Him showing up completely out of shape was a gag, but him skipping the entirety of preseason and walking right into being last year's Josh Jacobs. That was not a bit. No. That was a concern. Yeah. And it's so much, he gets so much work. Yes. For so little. It's whatever, the orange with the least amount of juice. Biggest orange with the least. I'm going to abandon the analogy now.

We're moving on, like I said, tomorrow, hungry for more Thursday starts of the week. Friday, the fantasy face software. Mike, you get to spend a special reel this week. You didn't get your customary second place. No. I felt really good at the beginning of the game. Yeah, with Zay Flowers. With Zay Flowers had a huge catch. It was like, here we go. And then that was against. No, I ended up with JSCN. Jason had Palmer who carried them. Which that... I mean, we all scored not enough points. No, no, no. Let's be clear. Our teams were terrible. Did you guys talk about the Palmer not touchdown? Like his huge catch where he decided to change angles a few times and it was like, why don't you just run into the end zone, dummy? It would have helped. He's actually, it's funny between that and the week before he had a big touchdown call back on a penalty that had nothing to do with him. Uh-huh. So, yeah. All right. That is it for today's episode of the show. YouTube.com slash the...

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