Top 10 TE Rankings + Hit Rates, Danger Zone - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/13

Yeah. Is that he had 10 touchdowns on 889 yards. Over the last decade, every single tight end with 10 touchdowns on fewer than 900 yards regress in touchdown department, all of them. And not like they went from 10 to 9 and not like bums. We're talking about Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, multiple times, Mark Andrews, George Kittle, and they've gone from 12 to 5, 12 to 5, 10 to 2, 11 to 2. Like these are, so it's just like. I worry because of his utilization. I think he's a great player. He's super involved in the offense. He is going to be a very good fantasy asset. However, he's often the first tight end drafted off the board. And I think the touchdown regression based on his utilization and his expectation, that has me scared at the cost that he won't pay off there because where he's being drafted are.

obviously the best wide receivers and running backs that you're going to have to sacrifice for a tight end. What was the stat at the top of the tight end section? It was just a, the success rate. Tightened one through three. They hit, they hit in the top five, 60%. So you just, yeah, it's 60% of the time that they finished top five. Yeah, it's a good bet. I'm not betting against Laporta for the season. I'm just, I'm betting against his ADP of being the first guy drafted. often in the second round. If he finishes, if he finishes as the three, where you had to draft him, that will feel disappointed. I think it'll feel fine. I think it'll be disappointing. Travis Kelsey. Number one. Man, it's been a long, long run for Travis Kelsey. 7-8-1-1-1-1-2-1-3. So if you want a case of a guy finishing at three being disappointing,

Look no further than what happened to you with Travis Kelsey last year. Right. But he was also a field lapper historically, and that was what you felt as well. And he was like the fifth pick in the draft. Yes. Yeah. And LaPorta is going where? Second. 301. Yeah. Early third and late second. Yeah. Look, I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay if it's somewhere in the third. Kelsey's at 302. You know, those guys are back to back. I mean. Yeah, on a per game basis last year. Not a first round pick. Sam Laporta was over the course of the season was the tight and one. But Travis Kelsey on a per game basis was the tight and one. Right. Tide. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, tied. So he's right there with him. And I do think that there is positive regression coming for the Kansas, the Kansas City Chiefs offense into just the total touchdowns scored offensively. That will obviously be a lot to do with Travis Kelsey.

You know, he might be a better value this year than he was last year, even if he finishes worse this year than he does last year, which I expect. I expect him to not be as good as he was last year to still be outstanding. So it's just a matter for me, I like these top five guys. I think all five could have a case to finish as the number one tight end. So I'm going to take those second and third round wide receivers. And in the fourth, fifth round, I'm going to try to grab the value of one of those.

you know, top guys that, one of those guys, that's just my personal strategy, the Dalton Kincaid, Mark Andrews, and Trey McBride. I think they're the best values that are still good because we haven't had this opportunity in recent years. In recent years, it's like there's one or two guys and then you've got to punt the position forever. I think there's enough guys where those middle rounds, the higher middle rounds, the fourth and fifth, you've got, you've got security there. and you're not sacrificing the same running back or wide receiver that you are elsewhere. Andy, for Sam Laporta, because you're cool with the ADP. Let's say you're at 208. And so, I mean, ADP-wise, you're not slotted for him, and the chance of him actually...

rounding the turning coming back to you at that point is very low. So if you're like, if you're there and you want Laporte, I would gamble on the, on him coming back. Okay. You wouldn't force the action. Yeah, I'm not going to force the issue. And to Jason's point, like you do have security and more than one name, which is also why, you know, if those three through five guys didn't exist, I don't think, I don't think Kelsey and LaPorter are going in the third round. Yeah. I think the demand for them. Yeah, supply of the differential would be higher.

I mean, Kelsey in the first round, you had to, I mean, talk about expectation differences between, you know, 105 and 305. That is a big gap in what you need from them. Yeah, you had for two years ago in, I mean, 22, Travis Kelsey was over 15 points a game. And he finished this year at 11 and a half, which in points of game was tied for number one. Like that's. I can't wait to see what happened. That's a shakeup of the whole tight-end market. One thing I will say in favor of Sam Laporta, and it's worth noting the UDK, we talked about how much changeover there is defensively. You don't always know that last year teams that are bad at tight-end are going to be bad at tight-end this year. They might have solved for that. That being said, it's still a useful tool to look at for the first three weeks because if you are going to stream the position, look for some guys later. But the combination of...

the questionable hamstring right now with Jemir Gibbs, and the Detroit Lions have the second easiest first three games. You could draft Laporta and get off to a really hot start that way. Sure. And if you want to just throw out some of the other names of the first three weeks, hot starts for your last round type of pick, number one is Pittsburgh Steelers, so that's Pat Friarmouth. Number three, you've got the Patriots with Hunter Henry. Do you have, do you guys have any? Okay, you listed those guys off, but do you have any, uh, essentially 10th round plus tight ends that you're looking at that you feel like can sneak in? Maybe not top five, but I would say those two guys and then dart throw. It's so, it's so dumb to even bring up the name. Do you want to save it for the my guy episode? This is the good stuff. Greg Dulcich. Okay. All right. He could. He also has a top five.

schedule in those first three weeks. And that's a team that has not a lot of answers at the wide receiver position, which is something you're looking for. Also, Greg Dulcich is a tight end for the Denver Broncos. If you don't remember who Greg Dols. I'll just say one name that I think could. It might be the name. It's Brock Bowers. Oh, okay. Brock Bowers is like when you talk about. But he's a seventh rounder. Or later. And, and, uh, or earlier. I mean, he's not making it that far. I'm okay, 710. All right. I was talking about like full on punts. No, I'm bringing his name up because I didn't want to ignore it on the top 10 tight in show because I do think that there's great potential for Brock Bowers to line up as a wide receiver almost every play and be a constant threat down the field.

And so I just, you know, he's 909 on ESPN, Jason. Even later on. Find me a higher one. Right. I'm just saying he could go either way. So depending on your platform. But like Pitts versus Bowers, that's crazy to me. That's crazy. Really? Why do I want to go on the pits ride? Okay. Let me make the argument for you. Right now you're talking about a not rookie tight end who historically tight ends, even the greatest, aren't great. They're rookie year with the sole exception of Sam Laporta and maybe Evan Ingraham, if you want to throw that out there. or go all the way back to Jeremy Shockey. And then... Dalton King Kay's performance last year would outperform Pits. Also, you're talking about the quarterback position of Gardner, Minshu, and Aden O'Connell throwing behind Devante Adams versus... Yeah, you can have pits, dude. Oh, yeah. He's yours. A Pitts versus Bowers... Oh, yeah, he's all yours. Pits versus Bowers bet. Foss show. Yeah, how much money you want? $1,000.

Waterbed. Yeah, we'll figure out. I said, speaking of platform, and this is, I have to say this, I have to choke through the humility of Taysam Hill needs to be on people's radar. It's, it's awful. I hate it. I hate everything about it. Josh is back to celebrating because he's a Saints fan. But Dennis the Menace loves Tysm Hill. Everybody who's ever met him and loves it. I don't know what it is, but everybody loves Seism Hill. He just must be electric. He can bench a lot and freaking squat a lot. Yeah. Pick up the UDK at Ultimate DraftKit.com. Chance for the UDK for Life. Friday live stream. And then tickets going fast. There are a few lower level seats remaining at Ballers Live.com. If you want to come see us in Los Angeles, two weeks, less than two weeks away.

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