I think it's different. Godwin in the second versus Evans in the third? I feel like they're both just going to end up second round picks. Probably. You know, in the past, I was always Adam Thielen over Diggs because I wanted the targets. So it's a very, very similar situation. But here, there's more passing volume than what you're going to have in Minnesota. So I would rather have Godwin over even what I thought of Adam Thielen. Number 13 was Jarvis Landry.
The TRUTH: Second Tier WRs in 2019 - Fantasy Football Podcast
The TRUTH: Second Tier WRs in 2019 - Fantasy Football Podcast
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141 passagesBelieve it or not. How did he do that? Number 13. 83 receptions, 1174 yards, six touchdowns on 13th. His consistency rank was actually 20th, though. So finished at 13, less consistent than that finish at number 20. Ooh, he's tied with Amari. Really atrocious start to the year. Look away. Don't glance at those numbers. But, you know, from week nine on, wide receiver three.
Yeah, because they made the switch. What was the switch? They realized that Jarvis was the wide receiver won on the team. So then they started treating him accordingly. Five more targets than Odell Beckham Jr. Do you think that's what it was or was it just, I mean, the offense as a whole started getting it together. Odell Beckham, the injury news started coming out. There were only 38% of these games where Jarvis was good. 19% great, 19% bust. Like I would say you weren't really.
You weren't happy with committing yourself to Jarvis Sandry during this year. No, I don't think you were. At all. This shows, we talked about this on the last episode. You should go back and listen, but Jarvis illustrates how bad it was for wide receivers this year. Because usually the wide receiver 13 is a guy that really helped your team a significant amount. And I don't think Jarvis is looked at this year. You know, imagine, like we said last year, the top nine.
scorers would have been better than the number two score this year. Doesn't Landry feel more like the wide receiver 20? He does. Or lower. Right. And so, you know, I do think that the very beginning of the season, they were focused on Odell Beckham. I looked at the target split is negligible. It's about a half of target a game more in the second half.
It's just the touchdowns. The touchdown started to come for Jarvis Landry, one in the first half of the season, and then five over the second half. They had a much better second half as an offense. I mean, the first eight weeks, you were a disaster if you put Jarvis Landry into your lineup. You know, going into the next year, I can't imagine preferring Jarvis over Beckham because the upside Beckham could represent. If I can get Beckham as my wide receiver two, instead of Jarvis, I mean, I would take that shot.
what, seven, eight years of Jarvis Landry. It's not a bad life to live, but it's not a fantasy championship life very often. He has to have insane target volume. All right, I'm going to give you a couple more names and where they finish, what their consistency rank is, but I want you guys to bring up some deeper wide receivers that we can highlight here. Lockett finished at 14. His consistency rank was 22nd, however. Is there an injury for Lockett that I'm forgetting? Yes.
When did that happen? I believe that was week somewhere in the, it was the thigh contusion, if I recall. Really bad thigh contusion. I think it might have been week 13. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. It's coming back to me. Yeah. So it wasn't the majority of the season, but it was a portion. I mean, the second half of the year is, his chart is just. Looks like Russell Wilson's chart. A little bit it does. So you've got.
Locket and the question of, you know, are people going to go Metcalf over Lockett next year? I'm still on the Lockett side. I think I've made the switch. It's a Metcalf? I think I've made the switch just because I want that year to leap tells me I want the lower, the player that goes farther down in drafts. The fact that it's a discussion at all tells me I'm not going to spin up for the top one. I'm going to take the second option. Or does it say you should grab neither?
That's also an option I will avail myself of. If the low passing volume desires of the Seahawks are now split more, you know, I love Tyler Lockett coming into this year because it seemed like it was his show, and I believed in Russell. But if it's no longer his show and there's two great options to throw the ball to, that might be good for Russell. But don't forget who's coming back. And bad for both. Oh, no, yeah. Oh, wow. Big Montana. He's coming back. Oh.
There's no way. There is no way. He's already practicing. In full. Lifting houses. A.J. Brown. Lifting houses? That's how he trained. That's Montana strong. A.J. Brown. I love the people that don't know we were talking about Will Disley there. That would be the highlight there. A.J. Brown finished at 15, believe it or not, which is absolutely crazy. He almost finished as the top 12 whiteout. His consistency rank was 30th. I throw that.
won pretty much into the garbage can. His consistency rank once Ryan Tana Hill took over from week seven, he was number nine. That one matters to me. Yes. Yes. That's pretty darn good as a rookie to come in, have a top ten consistency score. He won people titles. So will he be overdrafted next year? He will only be overdrafted next year if he's not the real deal. And I believe he is the real deal. So no, I don't think he'll be overdrafted. I think he'll be drafted appropriately high.
I got a little juju juju uh yeah maybe an early my guy candidate worries oh man stay healthy tana hill i don't need any of this backup nonsense it is very impressive when you look at his consistency over those final games and it there's a very clear indication by the team that they committed to him in week 10 when they played kansas he shot up from the 60 percentile of snaps
up to 94 and this is when he took over and they said okay a j brown you're our dude and for fantasy purposes i mean he just dominated from that point i think he's going to be overdrafts i think it's very possible because it's this is he's the next year he's the juju that's what he's gonna be i don't look at him as a juju but i look at him he's like locket and metcalf where he's he's on a team where they're very very content if ryannehill throws 120 yards a game like they're happy
They're ecstatic. And that's, that's tough. I know he was, he was awesome during that, in the, the final stretch of the year. But can that work for an entire season? Can, can you capture the magic that he had and the, and the magic that Ryan Tannehill had? It'd be nice to combine DJ Charks first half and, uh, AJ Brown's second half. DJ Brown. Because DJ Chark.
Finished at 16, consistency rank of 32. The back half, the injury, the quarterback tumult. It led to basically a disaster second half for him. And he was a great story from the first half of the year. He was. From weeks 1 through 11, he was the wide receiver 5. You know, is he better if Gardner is the future there? We have so many question marks, but Morone is back. Yeah, we're going to get a new offensive coordinator. Yeah, John D. Felipe, congratulations. You're fired again.
Good job working. They've got an opening in Minnesota. Oh, goodness. Oh, that's funny. That's not going to happen. Please. No. Go save Thielen and digs. Yeah. You know, it's hard. He's certainly the wide receiver I would take over any other Jacksonville wide receiver. No question. Yeah. So when it comes to DJ Chark, who had a big blow-up, monstrous performance, comes onto the scene and says, I'm the real deal.
And is the clear target leader there on a team that will probably pass more, although they do want to be a running team first, compare him to A.J. Brown. Who do you have more confidence in next year? DJ Chark or A.J. Brown? AJ Brown. Okay. So we're all in agreement there. Yeah, not a ton. But Brooks is reminding us as well that once week 12 hit, he had that ankle injury where it was.
If you remember, he's not going to play. And then he did. And it was... Both A.J. Brown... He was pushing through it. And DJ Chark, look, this was not just anomalous. This was talent. Right. Go watch the film. Watch them compete for the ball. You know, when it comes to A.J. Brown, look at what he does after the catch. Look what he does. Such a beast. On breakaway plays for DJ Chark. What he does on contested catches. DJ Chark, Devonte Parker, probably...
the two most impressive contested catch guys that I saw in film from last year in terms of... Certainly the most surprising. Consistently competing at the point of the catch, physical freaks, you know, both of them. DJ Shark is huge. So I'll be interested in him next year. Robert Woods, you brought him up at the beginning of the show. He finished at 17 at the position, 90 for 1,134 yards, two touchdowns.
which we can talk about. 139 targets. His consistency rank was actually 13th, and from week 10 on, he was very, very, very good and very consistent on a team that didn't have that on the offensive side of the ball very often. So first half of the year, wide receiver 40. Second half, wide receiver 6. First touchdown, guess when it came? It's like week 14 or something? Week 14. Oh, boom. Nice. Consistent.
home road splits, consistent top, bottom defense splits. You know, Robert Woods is a very good player. That's what he is. Like, when I think of Robert Woods, I literally, the first word that comes to mind is he's consistent. I agree with that. And he's who I like as a two. Yeah, totally. I felt really stupid at the beginning of this year because I was very demonstrative saying he was the number one target for golf. Right. He's the first read. And that first month, he was not the first read. Everything was his best friend in Cooper Cup.
And then you started to see it, though, the rest of the year. So going into next year, who do you expect to have more targets? I'm not going to choose that way for next year. I'm not going to be looking at who's the number one target for Jared God because I don't think the answer is one name. I think it's Tyler Higby one game. It's Cooper Cup one game. It's Robert Woods one game. Higby is going to be fascinating. Total targets. I don't know. I'll still take Woods for that. Yeah. I mean, Cup is the younger player.
Cup is still, believe it or not, you know, he's one year off of the ACL last year. Did that wear down over the back half of the year? I don't know. It's certainly not going to, I won't. I'll tell you who I won't pick and it won't be Brandon Cooks. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, here's a name we need to bring up. If we, can we skip around a little bit? We can skip all over the place. So Devante Adams crushed people in fantasy this year.
Nobody who had Devante Adams was happy. I can attest as a Devante Adams owner unless somehow you made it through to the playoffs. And you had him great. But for the most part, you know, the first nine weeks of the season, he had two decent games, bad games and missed the rest. But the majority of those were games he missed. He didn't play. And our consistency metric takes those games out because obviously he wasn't in your lineup. But when he played.
How was he? And he was phenomenal. He was our consistency rank number five. He was very, very good. And you've seen it in this playoff stretch. Yeah. He is the clear number one. His targets will be there. The touchdowns will be there. He's usually the guy that's up there in the high double-digit touchdowns, and that wasn't happening. He's probably my wide receiver three for next year. He's probably my two. Yeah, he should be up in that conversation. I mean, I'll take Michael Thomas and DeAndre Hopkins, and then I'll go Devante Adams. I'll do that before Chris Godwin.
or, you know, I need these other guys. Yeah, certainly there with Julio. I mean, we can't forget about Devante Adams. Right. And this consistency rank helps illustrate how good he was. That's the point. The truth is, Devante Adams still was awesome this year. It just didn't help you for fantasy because of his injury. Yeah. Yeah, he had kind of the ping pong beginning of the year and then the injury and...
You were off to the races on your disappointment, and that could blind you from how good he was. DJ Moore finished it. Yeah, that's why I want to talk about. He finished at 18, but his consistency rank was 7. 87 for 11, 75, and 4. I think people will forget how good he was this year. I think maybe that'll work to their advantage depending on their quarterback situation for next year. But it's important to know he only scored four times. And DJ Moore...
ending up at number seven consistency-wise with just four touchdowns. That's hard to do. Right. That means you're the centerpiece of the passing game. And it means that there's some positive regression possible for the talent level of DJ Moore. You know, you talk about four touchdowns for him, two for Robert Woods. Both of those guys, you know, I look at more in the sixth touchdown range. And he finished at wide receiver 18 and he didn't play the final two games of the year. I mean, technically he was in.
Week 16, but he got that concussion right away, which sucked for fantasy championships. But wide receiver 18 in just 14 games. I mean, that's very impressive. I'm all in. The breakout was real for DJ Moore. Just hope that the connection for Cam Newton, who I'm projecting to be their quarterback next year, can be there like it was this past year. To use Jason Morris.
