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Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Drops & Dart O'Clock! | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1809

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Jason wins the week and still finds a complaint

Jason's Mark Andrews and David Montgomery beat Jahmyr Gibbs, and he posts the League of Record's highest score even with CeeDee Lamb recording a zero. He nevertheless argues that Andrews was not actually good, declares himself unsatisfiable, and answers 'Never' when told to grow up.

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Russell Wilson gets the wrong Unlimited first

Wilson's fourth-down failure summons the clean 'Unlimited' cue. The desk immediately rejects it as the wrong one, then fires 'Unlimited diarrhea. Unlimited' and asks whether Wilson has played his way out of the Hall of Fame.

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Sports cards become a player stock market

A host says he began collecting sports cards with his son and explains the hobby as a stock market for players. Russell Wilson's Super Bowl cards once belonged in a vault, but his late-career decline turns them into a sell, while the market is already trying to exit C.J. Stroud.

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Both hosts traded out of Camp Scadaboo

Two hosts realize they recently traded Cam Skattebo to one another and both moved out of 'Camp Scadaboo' just before his breakout. The desk then lists his team lead in carries, rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, targets, receptions, and receiving yards.

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Mac Jones rips it and gets sent back to backup

The hosts verify that Jones sincerely minimized a defender's catch, mock him for putting the ball on the player's neck, and quote his self-credit—'but I did rip it.' The response is blunt: he sucks and should go back to being the backup.

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Jackson Dart activates breaking-news party mode

The quarterback change arrives live. The desk demands lights, explicitly assigns Mike to break the news, announces Dart as the Giants starter, and declares Wilson's Unlimited Diarrhea flushed. Video visibly inserts a three-host BREAKING NEWS graphic and then cycles the studio through multiple party-light colors.

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Bye weeks are the British offshore

The hosts defend saying bye weeks are 'coming' because they are not here yet, compare the distinction to the British are coming, place the byes offshore, demand lanterns, and congratulate themselves on a perfect Revolutionary War parallel.

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Deucers Alley follows Final Destination order

In a 17-team chopped league, direct video shows two of three visible Deucers raise their hands as already eliminated. The desk identifies Baby Jake as first, Falcon second, Papa Josh third, and Owl as the survivor; Owl says he is not going anywhere. Josh and Falcon each died with all 1,000 FAAB, so they are said to take it with them.

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The podcast needs Thornton find-and-replace

Andy promotes Trey Tucker while repeatedly calling him Tyquan Thornton, discovers the mistake, calls the podcast horrible, and requests global find-and-replace. A related Tory Horton slip follows, after which Dante Thornton, Tyquan Thornton, Trey Tucker, and Troy Franklin become so entangled that the hosts no longer know whom they mean.

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The Great Gadsden survives consonant court

Oronde Gadsden is introduced in the transcript as 'A Rondé Gadston' and immediately called the Great Gadston. The hosts spell G-A-D-S-D-E-N, debate whether a D became a T, try Gadston and Gadsby, and finally leave pronunciation authority with one host.

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Starts of the Week leaks two days early

A host identifies Matthew Golden as his Start of the Week during Tuesday waivers. The others react that it is not Thursday, tell him to turn the reveal down, and salvage the recommendation as a 'drop it like it's hot' waiver note.

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Episode notes

All three regular hosts are named and visibly at the desk, with no missing host or Jay Griz presence. Jason wins his Monday League of Record matchup with Mark Andrews and David Montgomery, scores the most points in the league despite a CeeDee Lamb goose, and still argues that Andrews was not good; the others tell him to grow up. Russell Wilson's decline then misfires the soundboard: a clean 'Unlimited' cue is rejected as the wrong one before 'Unlimited diarrhea. Unlimited' lands, reviving both the Wilson cue and Week 18 Nasty Boys phrase. A host explains sports cards to his son as a player stock market and watches Wilson go from Super Bowl cards placed in the vault to an urgent sell. Two unnamed hosts admit they recently traded away Cam Skattebo to one another just before his breakout, turning his all-category team lead into shared regret. Mac Jones's refusal to credit a defender's catch is replayed as arrogant self-congratulation—'but I did rip it'—and the desk tells him he sucks and should return to backup duty. Andy's prior-day Cardinals camera stare returns when he says he hates the team but still finds Atlanta's passing offense worse. The biggest production payoff arrives live: the Jackson Dart starting announcement makes the hosts demand lights, Mike breaks the news, a dedicated three-host BREAKING NEWS graphic visibly appears, and the studio visibly cycles through colored party lights. Russell Wilson's 'Unlimited Diarrhea' is declared flushed. Bye-week planning becomes Revolutionary War narration: the British are coming because the byes are still offshore, lanterns must go up, and the hosts openly congratulate themselves on the parallel. Deucers Alley then gets a physical chopped-league audit. Direct video shows three producers and two raised hands; the dialogue identifies Baby Jake as first eliminated, the Falcon as second, Papa Josh as third, and Owl as the survivor who says he is not going anywhere. Josh and Falcon each admit dying with all 1,000 FAAB, prompting the claim that they are taking it with them. The sequence is compared to Final Destination. The waiver discussion later collapses into names: Andy spends a Trey Tucker argument saying Tyquan Thornton, requests global find-and-replace, Jason is caught in a related Tory Horton slip, and the hosts lose track among Dante Thornton, Tyquan Thornton, Trey Tucker, and Troy Franklin. Checked video shows ordinary Waiver Wire framing, not a corrective graphic. A premature Matthew Golden Starts of the Week reveal gets a 'turn that down' response, and Oronde Gadsden's name ends in a pronunciation loop plus 'the Great Gadsden.' Routine waiver advice is omitted.

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Mine sounds similar. Mine made sense because I said Dante Thornton and Trey Tucker and Taequann Thornton is two T's. Who are we talking about? I don't even know anymore. I'm going to jump in. Troy Franklin. Dante Thornton. Trey, Troy Franklin is someone that I'm still going after. The output was not what you had hoped after the, you know, the week two sensation where he was the wide receiver too, but he's out there. Like these other guys, Trey Tucker, I'm fine going, I'm chasing after Trey Tucker. You know, I don't think he's a rando enough that you just completely dismiss it

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and he's super speedy guy. Can he be the number two for a while for the Raiders where Torrey Horton's an exciting rookie, but you have two other established guys on that team. Denver, they're kind of the thing of the offseason was who's going to be, who will step up and be the number two guy. Marvin Mims was getting the snaps in the preseason. Those have evaporated. Franklin's the one who's getting the snaps. So he is the, he's the one I think I'm chasing the most of and he may not even be the most expensive. So he's number one on your wide receiver list?

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I'll go verify that, but I, of the guys we've talked about so far, he's the one I want. And Horton's number one on your list, Jason? Yes. So Iow Manor's still out there. Sterling Shepard will have a huge opportunity in Tampa Bay with the Evans injury, even if Godwin comes back. Sterling Shepard basically available in every single league. He's a perfect spot start. He's had four more targets in every game and those should go up and Baker's cooking. So, I mean, you have opportunities to, you know, Philly's going to stop the run. Maybe Sterling Shepard is a little spot start

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option for your team. That is the cheapest in the fab department. You know, people may chase the three touchdowns of Trey Tucker. Like I'm, they probably will. He's number one on my list because I think it will sustain. He ran 37 routes last week or actually he's averaging that per game. He's playing every snap and Geno is a spot start. I know for us this week, sure. So, he's number one on my list but I'm not going to break the bank on him. You have to, and a lot of people might after chasing those numbers whereas Shepard is rather free.

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Taequann Thornton legitimately talking about him this time. Right. He was, he had nine targets. He was five for 71 and a touchdown. He was so close to another touchdown on two separate plays. Made a great catch the week before had a touchdown. He might be the best pickup. He's a great. The matchup against Baltimore who has given up the most points in the league. Now granted, the points that they gave up was against Buffalo and against the Lions. Great offenses. But they're playing the Chiefs. How crazy is it that one of those two teams is going to be one and three?

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That's fascinating. One of them will be a three-loss team into week four. The Chiefs or the Ravens? Now are we saying the Chiefs are a good offense? I was saying they've got a quarterback that can throw a ball to Thornton. You're not playing against someone incapable. A good offense or a quarterback that can throw the ball to Thornton? Which one is it? A quarterback that can throw it to Thornton? Oh man. Look, he's the best weapon they have right now. Now Worthy, is he going to be back soon? Hopefully. But it's still one of those over-the-top type of players that the Ravens have given up.

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And if you want to talk a spot start from an over-the-top defense that lets you go long, I mean, it'll sound weird, but Dontavian Wicks is matching up perfectly against those Cowboys. There was a play, if you didn't see the flea flicker from the Chicago Bears, and it was talked about afterwards that the coaching staff of the Bears kind of found that if you pull the Cowboys in, you can beat them over the top. They just found that. And it was so true that DeAndre Swift did the worst flea flicker passback of all time. He threw it 20 feet in the air.

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He did a softball slow pitch. Yeah, and it was like, gave the defense tons of time to react, still worked. Yeah, I mean, to me, that's why Matthew Golden is my start of the week this week. Oh. I mean, whoa. For those reasons. It is not Thursday. No, but it is. He is, you got to turn that down. He is, he's only 80% rostered. He's the same as Addison. So you need to glance. That's a drop it like it's hot. People let go of Golden. He had seven opportunities last week in a week where the Browns were terrible. He is a must start

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to me this week. Yes, perfect. Either one of them. Someone is getting a bomb touchdown in that game. Yeah, I agree. Other names to throw out there, Luther Burden. Yeah, that's the... If you're going to put like Horton on your bench, you can put Burden on your bench. Yeah, he's the other kind of stash type of a name. It was only, you know, three targets. Obviously, he hit the big play, but with the way that the offseason went, it was destined to be a slow burn, a slow start here for Luther Burden, but... Yeah, very limited snaps, so it's a stash.

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But both him and... We'll talk about Love when we get to tight ends, but like, what is DJ Moore in this offense? Running back. And... Because Rome, you know, Rome seems to be just taking the wide receiver one position away from DJ Moore despite what the bank accounts say, and... I've kind of said all offseason, like, Luther Burden would not surprise me if he ends up as the number two wide receiver. I don't know who the number one will be, but I think that Burden could just end up being that number two guy, especially if Ben Johnson starts figuring out,

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you know, utilizing him in the slot and everything, Amon Ross style, so I think Burden is a good stash at the end of the bench. Well, if other people are burning Fab to get, you know, to chase Trey Tucker and Taequann Thornton, then okay. If you don't need a start... Yeah, I'll just put Burden on the back of the bench and see what happens this week. A couple of... You go first. Well, I was going to get to drop candidates, so if you have other players you want to mention, mention them first. There's a couple of kind of injury situations.

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One is CeeDee Lamb is gone, so do either of you care about the other guys in Dallas that can step up? Yeah. Okay. Moving from there, another deep one, Parker Washington had 11 targets. Diami Brown is injured in a PPR league. There's that, and then Christian Kirk. I don't know if we brought him up. Kirk is worth bringing up. Eight targets and back for Houston, and they just really needed him. Yeah. So, yeah, he's rostered in half of leagues. Drop candidate names are tough, man. They're tough ones. Josh Downs, it's been three Downs weeks for him, although the targets in week two

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was pretty good. Stephon Diggs, we see, like Diggs is just, if he catches the ball, if he catches the ball at some underneath eight-yard route where he falls down afterwards, it's not explosive. We have all the games on, all of the televisions that are in the lobby, and if, I know Stephon Diggs is getting catches. You're just like, hey. Have you seen one? No. Yeah. They feel like the most inconsequential receptions ever. Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley has 27 yards, 57 yards, 27 yards, new play caller. Io Manor is more valuable to me. That's tough, man. Eight targets, six targets, seven targets,

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and air yards. It's a really hard drop for me. It is, but I think I would, I'd plant a landmine. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter had good target numbers the first two weeks. Last week, just two. You just talked about, like, Damian Brown's hurt. Parker Washington ended up with 11 targets. I'm not dropping Hunter, but I am benching him. Oh, man. Yeah. We're very close to a drop, though. All right. We'll take a break and come back with tight ends, defense, and our streaming quarterback options. Foot Clan, the season, look, it's underway, Al. The season is underway. You got those rankings,

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like are you actively fab bidding on Hunter Henry? I think Hunter Henry is someone that you can pick up. Yeah, if you've got David Najoku, I'd rather roll out Hunter Henry right now. I'm not spending up on Hunter Henry chasing an incredible game to touchdowns, tons of targets. Hunter Henry has done this plenty of times. We know that Hunter Henry can go out there and get 10 catches for 70 yards and a touchdown or two. This isn't the first or the second or the third time he's done it, and then he'll go away. It seems like Diggs, though, and Douglas,

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Diggs and Douglas are invisible, so I just wondered if maybe the offense is different for Drake May. It is possible that it runs through Hunter Henry, but really what we've seen, and we don't like this for fantasy that much, but Drake May has spread the ball around a lot, which is usually unfortunate for, you know, you want the consolidation of targets, so Hunter Henry is fully capable. You could chase this. Eight targets week one, 11 targets week three, but I don't think he's going to be a consistent eight target every week. Mark Andrews or Hunter Henry? I would take Hunter Henry.

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Isaiah Likely is going to come back. I just mentioned it earlier. Isaiah Likely is a pickup for me. I think that they will utilize him in the passing game more. I know Mark Andrews had a humongous game this last week. Zay Flowers was taken out of the equation, and Mark Andrews was the beneficiary, but up to that point this season, we've seen Mark Andrews really utilize as a blocker more than as a field stretcher, and they haven't had likely. Yeah, I'm prioritizing Henry. Kate Auten is to be paid attention to, but it's hard when he had... He's Kate Auten. I mean,

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he had a goose in week three. I feel like Kate Auten is a fine pickup. Yeah. I really do. They will have to throw it around. Baker spreads the ball around a lot as well. Buka can't catch, you know, he can't get 100% of the targets. I mean, we had the... He's just been so bad so far this year. He has. It freaks me out. I mean, you're right. We're talking about Sterling Shepard, so we should be talking about Kate Auten. He is. Yes, Kyle, he is the Charles Clay type of a player. This is a Mr. Necessary. You had a run last year

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of four straight weeks of a top 12 performance, tied in 12, 4, 2, 3. I wonder if he's not healthy. Yeah. Because he was banged up and hurt and then playing through it. The way that he gets... Every catch, he just gets exploded. Destroyed. So it's very possible he is hurt. The optimism I would have for him if you're going to go into, if you're going to dive into that pool, is now the game plan will be different. Exactly. Like, they weren't planning for Mike Evans to strain his hamstring. Now we have to build it around the guys we have,

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and Kate Auten should see five plus targets. Kate Auten's playing 90% of the snaps, too. So that's what you want. You want a guy that's, you know, on the field, actually running routes. And if you want somebody that has not been rostered by anybody but could be their starting tight end next week if Will Disley misses more time. Sure. Had seven targets, five for 46. A Rondé Gadston for the Chargers. The great Gadston. Okay, thank you. I like it. Yeah? All right. Well, he's got to do something. It's a tough name. He did. He's got five for 46. G-A-D-S-D-E-N. Gadston.

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Too many Ds in there. Yeah, I feel like when you said it, you threw a T in there. Gadston? You thought I said Gat? Gadston. No, Gadston. Gadsby. Like, you hit the first D and the second D was a T. Gadston. Oh, okay. It's Gadston. All right, thanks. We'll leave it to you. Gadston. Defensive options this week. I want to throw out real quick, this might be a longer-term situation, and he somehow is still rostered a ton, but Colston Loveland, he played five. He's hurt, though. No, I know, but they're saying it's not a big deal. So this is just more of a be aware of

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he ran five routes, and per fantasy points. Wait, five? He ran five routes before he got hurt, and per fantasy points, he had three first read targets on those five routes. So, like, that, on paper, that looked like a game where they're like, hey, we're going to get Burden, Burden, and we're going to get Loveland. We're going to get them going. So just paying attention to it. Defensive options this week. Who do you like? The defenses. So you've got the Chargers going up against now what will be a first start for Jackson Dart. I think those are always good, although I prefer the second start

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once you get a little bit of film on them. The Detroit Lions, who just shut down the Baltimore Ravens. And they're a double up. They're going to be at home against Cleveland, which they will throw picks. They will take sacks. That's a great matchup, and you're saying it's a double up because the following week they're going to go on the road to Cincinnati and play against Jake Browning. Those are my two favorites. Might be a triple up. Kansas City Chiefs stink. Minnesota was unbelievable last week, and they're facing Pittsburgh this week. It is on the road, but Pittsburgh, that offense does not look very good.

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No. I would pay up for the Texans as well. Going against Tennessee this week, sometimes you just need to do a one-week, like, pay three or four fab dollars to make sure you get a guy because if you end up scoring six more points at your defensive position, that could be the difference between a win and a loss. Do you prefer the Houston Texans against Cam Ward or the Washington Commanders on the road against Michael Penix? The Texans. I think the Texans' defense is really, really good. It's going to be a struggle bus for Cam Ward this week. The Patriots are great, too.

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I mean, they're at home against Carolina. Bryce Young on the road. That's been a recipe for success for defenses and the Commanders that you just mentioned. All the waiver wire rankings, including the defenses, on the website at thefantasyfootballers.com. Streaming quarterbacks in a moment here. That was this week's Waiver Wire presented by Walmart. Who knew you can get what you need in as fast as an hour? Get free delivery on your first express delivery order with the code EXPRESS. Valid for first express delivery order. $50 minimum. Subject to availability. Restrictions. Apply. Full stream ahead. All right. If you are in dire straits

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of quarterback, you need a streaming option for this week. Who's it going to be? I'll kick us off because my game is first. It is on Thursday night. Samuel Darnold. Here we are. Was Sam Darnold the reason the Vikings were good? It's starting to look more and more like that is the case. Week one was brutal for Darnold, but then the next two weeks, he has been really strong for fantasy and that includes QB11 last week where he played just a portion of the game. They are being very aggressive going down the field, especially with JSN and this breakout that is happening.

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