Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Preseason Fantasy Recap, Rising Stars, News

Well, you don't. You're wearing purple right now. The North remembers. The North. Also, Tyler Boyd. What do you think about that whole dome situation, though? I like it. Tyler Boyd, he made a great catch. Yeah, he had a 40-yard bomb, and then they took him out of the game quick, which I thought was great. I mean, they need him. They are showing that he's going to be a part of their actual game plan. Sure, yeah, they didn't not keeping him out there a ton. Yep. All right, let's get to the Cleveland and Green Bay game. There's only one thing that.

that I think needs to be said about this. My mind's telling me no. Terrell Pryor. Yes, my boy. Not just one catch either. I mean, he looks the part. Big guy. Is Pryor? The number one wide receiver in Cleveland right now. I saw you write that down on our list and I had to run some sort of like spell check, grammar check to make sure you didn't mean a different name. Torel Pryor is he the number one in Cleveland right now? No.

I mean, if you say right now because Cory Coleman isn't playing, then sure. I think Cory Coleman is the clear number one on this team. But who that number two is for the first four weeks will probably be Terrell Pryor. And I think he can make a mark because he is one of those. Look, everybody in the NFL is an elite athlete. But he's an NFL elite. He's elite within those guys. His athleticism is...

Fantastic. And you've seen quarterbacks transition to successful wide receivers before. What did you guys think of RJ3? Yeah. I mean, it looked like Griffin. It's 100% look like Griffin, which is every time he gets hit, it takes him an extra four seconds to get up because he's in pain. And I'm telling you, man, he looked identical to me. He's got the ragdoll physics from.

From video games. He really does. And he always takes like three seconds and then he gets up and fights through it. Yeah. 50% completion, one interception. Yeah, looks good and then looks terrible. It's kind of the story so far. So hopefully he can put it together. You know, you talk about using your eyeballs. Eddie Lacey didn't look lighter to me. He says he feels more explosive. He did not look smaller to me. He played okay. And he certainly has...

the backfield there in Green Bay. So I'm not really taking anything away from him other than just saying what I saw, which is I was kind of hoping to go watch that game and see, you know, the Andre Williams I saw where, you know, oh, wow, he hit that whole much faster. I didn't see him hit a hole any faster. Did you have a different opinion? That's, yeah, he looked like Eddie Lacey, which to me, Eddie Lacey is not the guy who explodes in the first quarter. Eddie Lacey is the guy who grinds down the defense. Yeah, yeah, that's a fair point. All right, Oakland, Arizona.

We didn't see too much in this game. You know, David Johnson played three snaps or something like that. Or, I mean, had three touches. Looked great. Is there anything from the Arizona side that you saw that is worth mentioning? I mean, Michael Floyd looked good to me. Targeted downfield. I think you're going to have Carson Palmer with probably the league high or top three in terms of...

yards per attempt? Yeah, yards per attempt and where these guys are catching the ball. The Arizona offense looked great for the first drive, and then they pulled everybody out. They didn't punch it in down near the goal line, but, you know, that was fine. Now, my fantasy MVP is Latavius Murray. What did you see out of their utilization? I loved what I saw for Latavius Murray. I know DeAndre Washington had a good game, but...

That was after Latavus Murray was in the game, and he was in on first down, and he was in on second down, and he was in on third down. They played him for quite a while, and he had some good runs, and he caught the ball. I mean, he was clearly, like, this wasn't one of those. You saw the offense, and you saw that he was in that bell cow role, and I loved it. So I had messaged you, Andy, about I think your fantasy MVP of Murray is well placed.

George Atkinson looked good. Two big touchdown runs. Big touchdown runs. He'll be in the mix. Yeah. And I agree. I mean, the usage was there for Murray. DeAndre Washington did look pretty solid. I mean, he looked like, again, he's running against lower level defenders. But, and I think that Washington will earn some time against the real defenders coming through the preseason. Man, that's like one of my biggest targets. I mean, if you want like my.

personal draft plan. If I can get Latavius Murray and DeAndre Washington, because I think the price and ability to nab those two guys is easier. On a top five offensive line. Yeah, more realistic than grabbing, you know, any other targets going in. If you want, if you want those guys, you can have them. Yeah, Derek Hart looked good. Crabtree. Can't be forgotten. Do not forget about Michael Crabtree. If I need to, oh, seriously. Of any lesson, of any lesson that I need to apply. Like I said, last year I hated twos too much. Yes.

Um, I feel like I'm hearing myself tell myself, please draft Michael Crabtree. Like, that's what I'm hearing. Yeah, Michael Crabtree is never the pick where you, you always, you don't feel great about it. He's a grimace pick, which is ridiculous. Because he doesn't have that, you know, that high ceiling, right? Look at like some guy like Devante Parker, right? Michael Crabtree probably finishes this year ahead of Devante Parker in fantasy points, but.

You know, it's like you're excited when you grab Devante Parker because you think, oh, maybe he could just blow up and be this wide receiver one or this high-end wide receiver two. You just don't see that from Crabtree. But what you get from Crabtree is a reliable target monster who's going to produce. It has, you know, the rapport between Cooper Car and Crabtree is really solid. It's a really solid. It's a lot like the Bortles Robinson Huron situation. All right, we need to talk about. Also, just throwing this out real quick.

Clive Walford, a name to consider. They were running him on routes, and he looked good as well. He was a high pick, too. Seattle, Kansas City. You already talked about Kristen Michael. Yeah. So what else from this game do you want to focus on? Just the real quick follow-up for Michael. I want to ask you guys, because you're driving the Rawls Roy, both of you. And Pete Carroll, after the game, he said, we're going to have a one-two punch. And then he's talking about Thomas Rawls and Kristen Michael. Do you have any concerns at all? Yeah, I do.

I do not. I had tweeted out already before this episode. The combination of C. Mike with Coach Carroll's comments made me say I need to maybe, I need to put my Rolls Royce in neutral and see where it takes me. I mean, the truth is where he is right now in the third round. There's probably guys that I feel.

better picking as of this moment, given everything going on, he is, I mean, this is a situation that we will be monitoring closely and make our judgment calls. Hopefully you don't have your draft today. And I'm going to take the approach of, no, it doesn't affect my opinion of Rawls at all. I think Rawls is a much better player. I think most coaches would define their back to fields as one, two punches.

I think this is a motivational thing for Kristen Michael and a reward for the way he's been playing in preseason with Thomas Rawls sitting there on the sidelines for the most part and wanting to reward a guy who's running with the ones and playing well. So I'm not concerned about it. I think every team has rotations and I think the cream will rise to the top. That's the angle I'm taking. The thing about the rotation, though, is both Rawls and Michael are two-down guys. Sure.

So if Michael is playing, that's really going to hurt Thomas Rawls' fantasy value. Spencer Ware, you wrote him down. Spencer Ware, man. He looked fantastic. As we know, Charles is still on the shelf? And we've been asked, you know, is it Spencer Ware? Is it Sharkandrick West is the handcuff? I'm jumping on Spencer Ware. I think the guy is fantastic. He was, again, last year. West had a great game himself, but Spencer Ware looks.

looks fantastic to me i'm i'm running i'm saying that word a lot but yeah i think he looks great and um i'm trying to recall uh so i'll vet it real quick but i believe that the chiefs play the chargers week one so if there's anything wrong with jamaul charles spencer ware might be uh pretty valuable it was smart to see that he was the first guy up in a game that jama charles didn't play yeah everybody wants to say char west

Charles will be passing downs if Charles is out. Spencer Ware played very well. Indianapolis, Buffalo game. A couple of bits of news here. You had Josh Ferguson, the much-hyped undrafted free agent, Josh Ferguson, put up a nice three yards on eight carries. I could play the Adam Gays soundbite again if you want. Yeah, I mean, I think you can also find Josh Gort, or Josh Gort. Frank Gore chuckling in the corner here. I mean, no one's stealing that job away from him. No.

No, it's frankly. And I've been resistant on Ferguson because, you know, whether or not you say as a team you'd like to draft a guy in the fourth, you didn't. You didn't draft him. Nobody else did for a reason. Right. Mike Gillisley seems to be the number two in Buffalo. I think we've been talking about him for quite a while. Carlos Williams's offseason went terrible. Carlos Williams is returning to practice today. Yeah. Still suspended. Yeah. All right. Dallas and the Rams. Des Bryant's back, baby. Yeah.

My note is, oh, hi, Des Bryant. Made a big time catch doing Des Bryant type of things. I don't think anybody had a better preseason game than Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott looked, I mean, that was like his, you know, fast forward two years. That might be his best game he will ever have. But I'm just saying he was.

Perfect. Every throw was on point. He was moved. I mean, he looked. What he did for the Cowboys was, you know, they've been in conversations for trading for a backup. And now they've got more ammo. At least they can get those backups cheaper because they can tell the other team, we don't need them. We got a deck. Well.

We'll see how the rest of it goes. Yeah. San Diego, Tennessee. We talked about Melvin Gordon. We talked about Derek Henry. We talked about DeMarco Murray. Was there anything else that stood out from this game that you wanted to mention? Those were the big highlights for me. For sure. So I think we kind of dove into that one the most. Like Melvin Gordon, certainly. San Francisco and Houston, wrapping it up here. Blaine Gabbard.

Had an uneven game. Yes. Talk to me, Mike, about what you had been reading about Shane Drone, the big salad. Sean Drone. Did I say Shane? You did. Oh, sorry. My note here is just to overall talk about the San Francisco running game, which was great. Yeah, they were. They were deep, and every single one looked great. I mean, you had Carlos Hyde, before the fumble, looked very strong. Sean Drone, the same thing with breaking tackles. And you had Mike Davis. We talked about Andre Williams looking like a different guy. Mike Davis.

was an abomination last year. He was just awful. And then this, Mike Davis looked tremendous in this game against Houston. So it's, look, we're very early, and Houston is missing, you know, the superstar on their, on their defense. But is San Francisco going to be able to run the ball? I think that's the biggest question for me besides who's the quarterback, which I think the quarterback is Gabbard.

If you're impressed with, because you were talking last week off the air about Sean Drone. Yes. And I forget the comparison. I don't know if you recall it. You said Sean Drone's reminding people of, or said he was the best player on the field or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was a beat reporter that was asked on Twitter who was the best player at the San Francisco practice. And it was Sean Drone. And now you're saying Mike Davis looked different. Does that multifaceted backfield? We know Carlos High doesn't really catch the ball. Does that reduce your...

Your upside of Hyde, your like of Hyde and your rankings? Are you adjusting anybody based off this game? No, I'm not. I think that it's solidified that it'll be Hyde and drone. Hyde did get two targets on the very first drive. They were, I don't know if you can really call them targets. I mean, so bad. They were very, very bad, and I wish I could have seen Hyde make a catch. And they were clear. They were, what was weird about them is they were clear calls. They were a screen game.

and they were at his feet or whatever, but they called the play from the huddle to throw the ball, or not from the huddle in a Chip Kelly offense, from the sideline, to throw the ball. And honestly, the first drive, it did look like Carlos Hyde was going to be out there, very similar to what I saw in Latvia Smir. I was actually going to qualify that. I don't agree with that take because in the preseason, they just, you know, they get.

the guys the reps and get them out the field. It's not a game plan specific situation where Carlos is the starter, the Tavius is the starter. They get the reps in the first couple drives and then we get them out the field. The running game did look good and we need to remember that when Chip Kelly went to the Eagles, you know, there's so much talk about, you know, Deshaun Jackson and his wide receivers, they led the league in rushing that year. Granted, they had shady and a much better team, but they led the league in rushing. They had 500 rushing attempts.