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NFC West Breakdown, Jerick McKinnon, Annoying Situations

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If he's on the field and David Johnson is on the field, Larry Fitzgerald's on the field, there is some sneaky upside of this offense while those three stay on the grass. 100%. Fair? Any other points you guys want to mention about the Cardinals? Just real quick on Ricky Seals Jones. He is, I think, a pretty in vogue sleeper pick at the tight-end position. And for good reason, I mean, an athletic monster. He was a former wide receiver. He should have an op.

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opportunity here with germain gresham getting hurt right at the end of last year i don't think that we expect him to be ready for the elite for sure for training camp so conceals jones build a case they they were talking him up earlier so he he's a guy that later on if you punt at the tight end position flash with some huge big plays this past season i think he's worth taking the shot on 49ers

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All right, guys, the 49ers were 6 and 10 last season, but it didn't feel that way because of all the hope that Jimmy G. brought this roster finishing the year the way he did. Jimmy Garoppolo now takes the reins, free agent acquisition, Jerich McKinnon at the running back position. You drafted Dante Pettus, what, second round, right? And you have some opportunity here, a lot of upside here.

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Still a difficult division, right? You're playing a division that should have at least stalwarts on the defensive side in the Rams, and the Cardinals' defense will be upper half. And Seattle may very well be there, too. They have some pieces. I know that we talk about the big names leaving, but they do have some pieces. So does Jimmy Gropolo continue in the vein that he finished last season getting Peregras Sombag having a weapon like McKinnon out of the backfield? Where do you see this hype?

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going with Jimmy G because I can see it leaving people a little bit disappointed. Yes, I certainly can see it being disappointed, but that's, I mean, that's a more of a case of the actual draft cost. I mean, we, we love as fantasy players to latch on to the final quarter of the NFL season. And when people make a big impression like Jimmy Garoppola did, which.

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He was very impressive, to be fair to Jimmy G, very handsome, came in to this team that was doing nothing and won a whole bunch of games. It didn't translate to dominant fantasy success, but that's simply because the touchdowns were not coming. The yardage was there, and for that amount of yardage, the touchdowns, they're going to follow. But you're paying so much for him.

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Where is his current average draft position, Mike? Right now, he's, it doesn't sound very high if you say, oh, he's going in the ninth round. But then you have to take a look. Yeah, who's around him? Who are you choosing him over? You are choosing him over Stafford, Ryan, currently Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers, Rothlisberger.

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I don't have a huge problem. I wouldn't take him over any of those players. I don't have a huge problem with people taking him over those players in the sense that, you know, you know what Stafford is, you know what Rivers are. They're quality players. I like both of them. I would take them personally. But with Garoppola, when you're taking that shot in the ninth round, the unknown. The unknown of him saying, hey, maybe he comes in and it does light the world on fire. Year two in a Kyle Shanahan system or you're...

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you know, 1.5. Right. In that system, that's when Matt Ryan took that huge step forward. If you look at his 16 game pace, he was almost on pace for 5,000 yards, 4,934 yards, 19 touchdowns, and 16 interceptions, which is not a good, I mean, a very bad ratio, ratio.

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But you also had injuries and you didn't have a lot of weapons. You didn't have Pierre Garcin. You know, Marquis Goodwin became your number one target. And he's really a field stretching, you know, he's not a guy that can be the number one target. I love Dante Pettis being added to this team. Vegas, surprisingly, I was really surprised to see that their win total opened up. Do you guys know what their wind total opened up? I do not. Take a guess. Seven. Okay, that's a good guess.

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Seven? Nine. I mean, I was like, wow. So, you know, part of that is because of the public, you know, the 5-0 Jimmy G and trying to fight against that. But part of that might be belief in Garapolo, who I think reports came out today about how him and Brady hated each other and he believed he was better than Brady. And so, you know, we'll see. But I don't have a problem taking...

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the shot, the swing to say, hey, if this guy is like a top three type, great, otherwise stream the position. Before we talk to him, let's talk about him. Let's talk about Jerich McKinnon. Let's talk about him. I mean, Derek McKinnon is that spark freak, right? 99th percentile in the bench press at the running back position. He burst off the charts.

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when it came to his combine numbers and all the promise that he had, his best comparable player is Ladani and Tomlinson, the multi-tool skill set. And obviously, obviously, Kyle Shanahan said, I didn't hear what you just said. Oh, I thought you were done. I was just going to say, I, I am bought in. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm bought in on. I feel like you were hesitant. I've watched over the course of the off season, you slowly come around. I didn't realize that we have reached the point where.

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It's a full, this is a Jason's stamp of approval. Maybe more than that. Yeah, I mean, truly. It sounds like a my guy candidate to me. He is certainly in the my guy realm. I know a lot of fantasy analysts. They look at where he's being drafted and they say he's risky because he hasn't done it and he's being drafted back. He may not hold up physically. And that's the big issue is whether or not he'll hold up, right? But if you look at what his competition is, what his.

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talent physically is, what his team and Kyle Shanahan's system is. I mean, Steve Slayton, you guys remember Steve Slayton? Yep. And his 1,659 all-purpose yards, this guy who was, I think, 59209, same size as Devonta Freeman, who is obviously great. That's a Kyle Shanahan system. I mean, Roy, hello. Hello! Hello!

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Roy Huloo in his rookie year had over a thousand all-purpose yards for that system. And I believe Derek McKinnon. If he's healthy, you don't see a way he doesn't deliver. Exactly. If he's healthy, he's going to deliver. He's going to be a top 12 running back, in my opinion. Now, the health is partly an issue, but he hasn't, he's not an injury prone guy. And if you look at those spark freak scores, he's.

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He's on unbelievable. His body is built. They're exciting. Those numbers are exciting. It's the targets from Kyle Sannahan's system that are exciting for me. Is this a better team today with Jerich McKinnon than Carlos High? Yes, because he fits the scheme better. Before we move on, I want to at least talk about the wide receivers for a little bit. I like Pierre Gerson quite a lot.

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this season. We mentioned Marquis good one. He flashed. He had some big games when he was... Played well. He was rewarded with a big... Above what we expected. I want people. Do not sleep on Pierre Gerson. He was on pace for 1,000 yards. He just doesn't score. That's the problem with Piergarsan. He never scores. And we don't have any proof of concept of him playing with the handsome one. So I get that there's...

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Some people are concerned about it. And the name, the final name I want to throw out here. What's the last time Mike mentioned Jimmy Garablo without how handsome he is? It's never happened. Has it ever? Have you ever said Jimmy G. Jimmy G. By itself? Have you looked at him? Handsome fella. Here's the thing. Here's the name I want to remind people about. Because I'm with Jason, Dante Pettis is intriguing. However, Trent Taylor is their slot wide receiver. You can roll your head all you want, Jason. He's good.

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What's his career high gaming yards? Probably like 60 yards. Career high? I doubt it. I doubt it. Six for 92. Okay. You can shut your mouth. Trent Taylor is a good player. Yeah, he's flashed. He's better than Beasley. Yes. At this point, Pettis would have to take his job. Pierre Gerson is not the slot player. It is Trent Taylor. And over the second half of the season, he did have a couple big. Big is...

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Not the right word. A couple usable fantasy weeks. So just just pay attention to how rapport is being talked about by beat reporters if the name Trent Taylor comes up. Garsohn should sap the value of Trent Taylor. Well, he could. I'm so upset because I'm looking at his game logs and he does. He's got that six for 92 game. But then his next.

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highest on the season was 47 yards. So you win some, you lose some. But George Kittle is a name that we have not shared a lot of love for Kittle on this show. I feel like you guys started there. I don't. I don't buy into Kittle whatsoever. Yeah, I don't buy in much. But the one place that I do buy in is the fact that you brought it up. Pierre Garsohn, he does not score touchdowns. Markey's Goodwin is not a red zone type of touchdown score.

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Trent Taylor is not the red zone. You know, when he gets down in that red zone, and this is part of why I like Derek McKinnon, but I feel like Kittle is the best red zone threat for this team. And so it is a name worth mentioning. Garrett, Garrett, Selleck as well. I will make a water bet, Mike, with you right now. Kittl versus Selleck? No, that Kittl doesn't finish in the top 15. In the top 15? Yes. I'll take it. Waterbed.

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I feel like it has been so long, and there are so many new listeners that I need to explain what a waterbed is. Nope, just let it be. Let it ride. When we make water bets, it's simple. I win them. That's what it is. And then when I win them, Mike has to spin the wheel on the wheel of water app, and then I get to pour water on him in one of a variety of ways. We made this app three years ago. It's completely free. You can get it to wheelof water.com.

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And please send us pictures of you watering your friends this year. It's very fun. It brings us a lot of joy during the season. All right. Without further ado, let's stay in San Francisco. Let's talk to Jerich McKinnon. You talking to me? Okay, so Jerich McKinnon, the fantasy footballers are very high. We are very bullish on you this year. We are...

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fully bought in that you are going to be a great fantasy running back this season. There are some people out there that believe that your frame is maybe not going to be able to hold up with a huge workload. What would you say to those idiots? Just don't draft me.

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Don't be mad when you're losing. I'm on somebody else's team. That is sage advice. First of all, congratulations on the contract. Nobody improved their draft stock and fantasy more than you did. And you improved your situation. Great. I mean, congrats on that huge contract. When you were talking earlier about the proof was in the pudding. When different teams were interested and that you looked.

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at the coaching staff and thought that the fit was there. Can you talk us through that? Like, what were you and your team looking at to make the decision to go to San Francisco? For me, you know, free agency, what I do, what I bring to the table, I'm pretty sure all the teams that are interested in me were going to find a way to utilize me the same way within their scheme. But for me, like I said, when I'm in proofing the pudding, Coach Shanahan, you know,

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when he was in Washington, you know, after Morris had that great season. In Atlanta, Tevin Coleman, Devonty, I came out with Devante, and I've seen, you know, how he flourished in the system. And, I mean, the facts was right there. You know, Devonte's been to how many pro Bowls since he's been in the league. He got a big contract. So, you know, that.

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itself was enough for me. And I'm just looking at the yardage and, you know, how he used and what he was able to do with him and stuff like that. And then, of course, having, you know, coach Bobby Turner on the staff as well, a lot of wisdom. He coached a lot of great running backs, Terrell Davis, Hall of Famers. So everything was just right and, you know, everything worked out on the business end of the deal.

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