Regress or Impress + Weird Players, Offseason Q&A - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/7

best predictor of future success is past success in the NFL. And just a reminder, Jefferson was ADP-wise, like the wide receiver three or wide receiver four in our in dynasty drafts. That was Jerry Judy and C.D. Lamb above Jefferson. What's your point? My point being like that year, it wasn't, you would have been like, you wouldn't have been looking at Justin Jefferson as this. like the number one overall dynasty wide receiver. Like neighbors could do what Jerry Judy did. Yeah. We just don't know. Stuff. Yeah. It's a great question. It's a great question. No, I knew it would be a competitive one. When I was making my startup rankings for the UDK Plus, Puka was the most interesting name out there. I was like, man, what do you believe about him? Because he's, is he great or did he have a great season? Well, and yeah, that's why I brought up the Bolden Comp because that was his,

I don't know fantasy-wise if it was his best year, but it was close. He was 100 catches. I think he had another year of 100 catches, but that was like year three. And then the rest of his career, he dominated, but it was much lower numbers. I mean, is Jamar Chase's rookie season was his best, right? Like, Jamar Chase's last two seasons don't come close to comparing to his rookie season. Sure. So it is a great debate. There aren't, there isn't an answer right now. There's just opinion. And, and you've got them. I think Marvin Harrison, if you're just talking to talent, is the,

is more talented than Puka. All right. Why don't you grab another question, Mike? Do you have a dock up? Yeah, I've got it up here. This is a good one for two people on this panel from off of IG from Corbyn Clark. What's the cutoff for celebrating a championship? Draft Day when a new champ is crowned or death. What does he mean? Well, I can answer the question because I was last year's champ and I know exactly when the cutoff is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's when you're out. So when the new champ is crowned. No, no, no, no, no. No, it's when you're out. So if you are the current champ. Oh, once the rain is ended? Yeah. It wasn't when I won a title. It was when you were eliminated. Exactly right. When I was eliminated, that's when I can't celebrate anymore because I know I'm not the, I'm not going to be the champ anymore. You're not going to be, but you still are. I get it. I'm going. I mean, when you're greeted by our, by your co-manager, you guys every day for the whole year.

Hey, champ. Hey, champ. Yeah. When that changed to X champ, did that change when you were eliminated? No, no. That did change. Okay, so I guess, I guess Mike is correct here because I was still greeting him as champ and he was greeting myself as champ every day until you. Death is a part of the answer, though. Yes. Because you're still, you still have a championship. Right. Which you remind us of. Yeah, it's just. I barely remember it, but you remind me. I remember it so clearly. Yeah. But it was so long ago. Yes. It was back when, back when Andy was not in his 40s. The best part, I'm still not in my 40s. The best part of it is that I am trying to shorten your reign simultaneous to I will want to extend my own. So like at the end of this, I'll be like, I'll be you. Yeah. Unless I went another one.

All right, YouTube question from Caleb Travis 1418. Who do you like more for a bounce back year with potentially lower average draft position after last year's disappointment? T. Higgins or Jalen Waddle? Both were certainly disappointments relative to draft position. I think just to, I mean, just. Just all the vibes in general with those two guys were so positive going into the year and feel so negative right now. I still been reading about T. Higgins' trade rumors. Even though they franchised him, I've still been reading about that team considering a trade or, you know, people speculating, not directly from Cincinnati. But either way, Waddle, Higgins, who's more likely to have the bounce back? I think they'll both bounce.

back over where their current ADPs are. Right now, Jalen Wattle on best ball is wider receiver 22 and T. Higgins is the wide receiver 28. I would put a dollar on both of them beating those spots, but I think the better value is T. Higgins. T. Higgins was really, really bad. I mean, obviously it's seen by his ADP being even lower than Jalen Wattles. And he hurt fantasy managers because he was hurt in... a couple of games where he basically went out there, played a snap or two. You know, that counts as a game. So you look at a bunch of the metrics if you're like, oh, is per game stats. The snapper two is not, it wasn't as bad this year. But you have, uh, let's see the injury game in week four, about half the snaps. He comes back the next week he plays about half.

the final week of his season, Week 17, he played 40%. Yeah, so three games where he basically did not play half the game. But when you said you think he's the better value, you mean that he's going to be drafted lower? I definitely think T. Higgins will be drafted lower than Jalen Waddle. That's interesting, because I'd be more concerned about Waddle than Higgins in the sense that Waddle's season, like he failed with the prescription, like with the recipe that they had. The quarterback was there. Whereas, like, I can easily make the case of, like, you know, Burrough is healthy and Higgins is great. I mean, Tyler Boyd's gone. So I guess I was really curious where you thought they'd be drafted. Do we have the current, um, yeah, I said that. Best ball ADP? Did you say that? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Jalen Waddle is going six spots, six wide receiver spots ahead of Higgins right now. And I think that's, I think that sticks. So I, so that means, he's a better, he's a better basketball player. Sure. So they may be real, they may be back to back and redraft.

I will be surprised if Higgins goes ahead, assuming he is a Bengal. Mike, where were they last year in terms of redraft? Like draft. Where were they drafted? I think they were. They were like wide receiver. It was like wide receiver 12, 13, 14 between, I don't remember the order, but it was 12, 13, 14 with Waddle, Higgins and Devontz Smith. Like the three. So that would be, is that three disappointments? Yeah, I think so. I don't think Devonthe Smith was a. Yeah. The second round was atrocious this year. Yeah. And that's where Alave was. the as the resident burn victim from t higgins it's last year is you can explain it away and sometimes that's what you need sometimes you need to what is the story of what happened where with with waddle i don't think it's as easy to explain the ups and the downs where like last year to start the year

We all kind of forget Joe Burrow had the calf injury. The first four games for Joe Burrow, he scored 3.2 fantasy points. Week two against Baltimore, 15.4 has a good game. T. Higgins had a great game. Then the next two weeks for T. Higgins are terrible. Also, Joe Burrow in those two games, 8.2 points, 4.7. It took an entire month before Joe Burrow was finally recovered from the calf injury, and then T. Higgins got hurt. And then Joe Burrow went out for the season. And I had, because I had totally wiped from my member. You guys remember week 15 and 16, T. Higgins was a top 10 fantasy wide receiver those weeks? Chase, uh, I didn't remember those. Chase gone those weeks? I believe he was gone. Let me double check that. Maybe not. Um, right now he was gone for one of them. Okay. Right now you have to choose between T. Higgins and Drake London. Who do you choose? Higgins.

If it's right now, I don't know who the guy. As of right now, I assume rookie quarterback. Okay. So with a rookie quarterback, I would go. Waddle or Drake London? Waddle. Okay. I wanted to do a little Drake London temperature taking. Yeah, Drake London's. I'm, uh, he's. I might be really in on Drake, dude. I love it. I love it. I might be real in. The world needs Drake London to be good. I think right now when you draft a player like Drake London, you are, you are taking. One of Mike's things to remember, when the ADP has already baked in, the fear or the problems or the downside, which I don't know what his is off the top of my head. Pull that up, Kyle. For who? For Drake London. But right now, it's like the fear is baked in that he's going to have a bad quarterback. 26. 26. Yeah, exactly. He's such a perfect target. We can't talk about him. You have to use a code name. Because wide receiver 26 seems like where about. What's something that comes from London? That's so many people won't know.

The queen. The, oh wait, don't talk about the queen, man. You already did it once, man. Queen isn't here. We could talk about Big Ben and people think we're talking about Ben Ruther's burger, you know. No, that's too confusing. I'll get confused. I'll think you're talking about Big Ben Rothers. All right. Meat pie. Bangers and mashed. What's everything? Fish and chips. What's every generic thing we know about that country? What have we just changed his name to like, to like, Drake, France? How about the West End? Drack Paris. The West End. The West End? Yeah, that's the, that's the Broadway of England. Is it? I see, of course you know that. Of course you know that. Have you been to the West End? I haven't done a Europe trip. I haven't really been to Europe. I don't need to get over there. Usually if you haven't done a Europe trip, you haven't done a Europe trip. Sorry. You just repeated yourself and it was very funny to me. I just think, I think Drake London, I think the problem is if they do land somebody, anybody is.

any kind of confidence in. He will be the... Oh, Skyrocket. He will be the most obvious breakout candidate possible. But if it is a rookie, that's when you start to get... It gets interesting because we'll have the Stroud with Collins and Tankdale template from last year. But if it's JJ McCarthy, you're telling me people aren't going to doubt Drake London. There's going to be huge doubt. Well, that's what I'm saying Mike's... Mike's tip of saying if your ADP already has the negative baked in, which I think... I think if J.J. McCarthy is their quarterback, Drake London will go about wide receiver 26. But if they go and sign Kirk Cousins, where's he, top, is he going to be like a, be like Garrett Wilson hype like from last year. Over the last two seasons, London has posted 2.47 yards per route run in three wide receiver sets. And we bring that up because the new OC, Zach Robinson, is coming from the McVeigh system. So more wide receivers on the field.

and we'll see if Drake Lennon can do it. He just needs the ball thrown near him. That's the big thing. YouTube question from that guy. Hey, that guy. I know that guy. I'm thinking of making my league's trophy presentation to be like a wedding. I'd like the defending champ to be at the altar with the new champ. The last place team then walks the championship ring down the aisle. Okay. With the second to last place team scattering rose petals. Okay. I was. How can the rest of the 12th team league be involved? I will start by saying I was, I've never heard this. I'm a little hesitant. I was sold. By the end of that paragraph, I am in. This is very funny. I love it. But how do we get? I mean, I imagine second, third, fourth, and fifth are standing there like the best men. You need some groomsmen. And then the rest of them, you have to take a side like when you sit with the, you sit on the groom side or the bride side. Well, one of them's got to be the, is the commission, like the pastor?

Yeah, the, but what if the commission is one of those four? You can't play both roles. You still have to. Then you hire a real pastor. Also, I do feel like that now we're talking. Yeah. This is a sanctioned religious ceremony. You pay the pastor to do a wedding, the regular rate, and you don't tell him what's going on until he gets there. And you just say, stand right there. We don't need a rehearse, just stand. We just need you to stand there. I'm not sure I can wed a trophy and a man. All right, quick break. You will do it, Reverend. Back with another question. All right, back into the mailbag. This question comes from Connor over on Instagram. Which player do you think will have a career resurgence in 2024? So that means that they need one. So it'd be easy to look at maybe Pollard. You could look at... The name that comes to mind to me...

It does not count because it is not a resurgence because he hasn't really done it. There hasn't been a surge. But Kyle Pitts is he, I mean, his rookie season was really good. All the rookie season counts enough for that to be. It absolutely does. I think Kyle Pitts could have a resurgence. How about Safon Biggs? Man. They believe it. They do. A Matthew Barry's article from the Combine talking about the team. They just look at him as their one. Yeah. I hope. I hope so. But I'm going to be, I've passed him in every single. So you're out draft. I'm, I'm out on Diggs this year. It's crazy because like Gabe Davis is gone. Stvon Diggs is the one for the one, right? He's the one for the number one quarterback in fantasy. Yeah. That should, that should be automatic. It should. It really should have been automatic last half of last year. Didn't Amari Cooper have really weird runs? Oh, yeah. Where he was like magma hot fire. His whole career he would have.

But then, but then like six games goes by and you're like, I mean, that's probably half of why they got rid of him. And then they're like, whoops. It could be. Man, a real of full resurgence. Zach Ertz in Washington, obviously. Oh, yeah. Russell. Mark Andrews is just one name that you could bring up because I feel like. All that takes is health. Just if he plays 16, he's resurgents. I mean, saying something though for him. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, that's like 100%. But that's the easiest bet to make. He just is so low in our best ball draft. I mean, it shows you that he's not being, it's not being assumed. No, it is not. And I think people are, people are very, very worried that they're not going to get 16 games or 17 games from Mark Andrews. And I don't blame them for being worried because you haven't got 17 games from him. But you don't worry about Isaiah likely because the second he was back, he was a huge part of the offense. No, I don't, I don't worry about Isaiah likely. I think likely can survive and do his own thing.

Aside from Andrews, when you're the one in an offense, when you're the number one target in an offense, which Mark Andrews has been for his tenure with Lamar Jackson, that's not something where the backup tight end is going to steal those looks. I'm going to throw this next question over, let Papa Josh ask it. Instagram question there. Do you see it, Josh? Yeah. Who has won the most League of Record titles between you three? Unfortunately. That's a good question that you came up with. Unfortunately, it's now a tie. It's a tie. Mike and I have three, Jason has two. Yep. So we have, we got eight. Eight in 16 years. That's pretty good. Pretty good. I also. That is eight and 16 years. That's, that is above average. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Thanks for asking, Josh. Yeah. Appreciate that. If you count Josh, we have nine as a four pack. You know what I mean?

Never. Yeah. We have eight. I will count Jeremy's if he ever gets one. We have. Oh, man. It's when he lowers. So we will stay at eight. It's when he lowers his chair a little bit over there. Into the ocean, he goes. All right. YouTube question. This is a bunch of Keith Breeze Hall questions, okay? Okay. Big Ham wants to know you can keep Breece or Bijon. Who are you keeping? I've said it once. I'll say it again. I'm going to keep Breece. I don't blame you at all. If it is Dynasty, I'm on the Bijan side. Redraft, I think I'm on Breeze. We'll go read. We'll just do both. Why not? And I think I'm with Jason. I think I'm with Jason. That Bijon would be my dino pick and Breeze would be my redraft.

And then this YouTube question from Joe says PPR 12 team keep one, Brees or Gibbs. It is a full PPR. It's. And I'm taking Brees. I'll go Brees. Yep. Instagram question from Maddie. What do you think David Montgomery's role will be this season? Refer to the 2022 tape. Yeah. Or you can refer to the 2022 tape where Jamal Williams. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I think it's going to be a. small step down from last year's output. Okay, a little bit? Yeah, I think it's more indicative of the second half of the season when he was, he was almost like a Brian Robinson style Steady Eddie as opposed to a multi-touchdown breakout type of player. I don't, I don't know if he's, I mean, he could do it, right? He could make, he could have a huge run and he'll be fine. I still think he's very good. Dude, it's so wild. So after his injury, so we have week 10 through 18, which is,

that has nine games played, and he did not score a rushing touchdown in two of them. Yeah, I mean, it was. But yet during that stretch, only one time was he inside the top ten finishes, right? Twice, but yes, I mean, depending on what inside the top ten is. Is number ten inside the top ten? Yeah, because if you did a top ten countdown, you would start at ten. I need you to teach me how to say it the way I mean it. You say in the top nine. That's not, that doesn't work for me. I need a way to say the words top 10 but only mean the top nine. Right. Because that frames my argument better. Yeah, for sure. But either way, you know what I'm saying. Like he was a, even though he scored like games with a touchdown, 13, 5th, finished at 13th, 15th, 17th and 21st. That sounds like Brian Robinson to me. Did not finish ahead of the top 10.

He only finished ahead. Oh, you were searching for it for me. Of number 10 one time. Not inside, but a head out. Yeah. I don't know. It's tough. That's really tough. Better than the top. It just feels like lying. It does. You know what I'm trying to. I know. I'm trying to figure out a lie. Three catches on third down on the whole year. Like Jamir Gibbs is is definitely the future. He's definitely the explosive game. But if you look at. From the by week on, David Montgomery was still going to put up 230 carries for 1100 yards. And most importantly. And 13 touchdowns or 13 touchdowns. I mean, the touchdowns are what Jamal Williams did. Jamal Williams was much less special, but he had so many touchdowns. Do you think he'll be undervalue? I do. I think David Montgomery will absolutely be underval. Right now running back 20 if you're playing best ball, which is right around Ramandre, Nick Chubb, and Tony Pollard. He finished as the running back 13.

And he missed three games. Really, four games. Yeah, it's tough, though, when you got a superstar. Oh, I get it. I get it. That's why the ADP is going to be lower. Yeah. But it's baked in, right? That's the tip. It's baked in, but it's also an unknown. It's just like David Montgomery's utilization. We don't expect to change, but it could. It could. But if it does change, I think he'll be about the running back 20 where he's being drafted. Gotcha. And the upside case. Gotcha. That makes sense. He feels like, let's say they brought the. Gibbs and Monty are healthy all year long through a miracle. Montgomery's going to finish in the top 24. And then if Gibbs misses time, then you get huge boom opportunity. Nate, Kennedy wants to know, do you rename your team each season or choose a timeless name? I have a story for this. Okay. It will answer the question the way we have always answered it, but it will do it with an example. Our answer is we keep a name because you're building a dynasty.

You're building a legend. I met somebody this past week at my daughter's softball practice, and it was a gentleman who plays a lot of fantasy football. This gentleman had C.D. Lamb and Tyreek Hill as his wide receivers this past season. How do you think he finished? I think he did pretty well. He was not the champion because somebody in the league's name was C.D.'s nuts. And he felt like he should probably help the dude out and trade him C.D. Lamb so it matched his team name. Wait, he did. It was his best friend and his best friend really wanted the player that his name was and then got C.D. Lamb from him and then won the championship with C.D. Lamb over him. There's no best friends in fantasy football. Well, that's, yeah, that was one of the 18 things I explained to him. What did he get back? Not enough. Not even enough.

there was no way mid midway through last year you could have received enough for cd lamb to have paid off the point the point being well i was right before his real run the point being is that like if you have a team name as based on a player sometimes you don't trade that player away if it's the inverse apparently you can trade the player away look uh we we like you know i like the creative nicknames yeah they're they're fun if you're in but i like locking it down if you're in a full redraft but it also is nice like

not just for your own team like i you know i love you know having the dead ringers or having the ventura brave hearts as my teams but i also like knowing everyone else's team and not having to spend the first couple weeks because some leagues it's not like that that i'm in and everybody changes and i'm like uh who's who is this i like that being said i changed my name to mcalfreys hill so please trade me those players i like this from jason who has rebranded his team more than anyone else in the league. You can rebrand every, you know. That's changing your name. Yeah, I mean, a franchise in the NFL goes through that. They do it too. We haven't had the Washington commanders very long. I changed. Was your previous name somewhat questionable? I changed my co-manager. You don't want to take that on. No, it was the change of ownership. Yeah, no. It was a change of ownership at the top. You don't have to be defensive. Your old name sucked.

No, my old day was great. Oh, wait. Oh, which one? Over 16 years. I've had three names. Oh, man. Yeah, but that's when we hit you with it. In the last eight years, you've had three names. Fair. All right. But yeah, keep your name. It's fun. What? This isn't a real question. Dagger, how is Mike's hair so luscious? He's wearing a hat, guys. It's because sometimes you got to contain it. Sometimes, look, when you have hair like this on a day-to-day basis and you're walking down the street. It's too much. And cars are crashing. Right. People are falling over. It's too much sometimes. How much is it? You sit next to Jason and you feel like. I've absorbed his follicle nature. No, you didn't absorb his hair. It's just that do you feel like you just cause kind of like a disproportionality of.

I want to teach you a lesson, Mike. I want to teach you how stupid you're being. Oh. By the hat thing. All right. I want you to Google John Stamos in a hat. And I want you to see someone that it does not matter. This is a human being that does not matter. John Stamos. Oh, he looks terrible. Who is that? I don't know. I don't care. He looks stupid. Wow. John Stamelson hat looks like a regular. Just a regular old weirdo. I don't know what you guys are talking about. He still looks great. Just a dude. But you search John Stamos and you go, that's John Stamos. Yeah, but me and John Stamos understand the power and the responsibility. Honestly, him and a hat kind of looks like Bob Sagget. Yeah, I mean, they might as well be twins. Wow. Yeah, sometimes. Take that hat off and shine. Yeah, not today. Well, not today. You've already got a hat on him. Feels like that's a Pixar movie waiting to happen. Somebody with like powerful hair and then every time they take the hat off it.

Maybe not. All right. I was waiting for it. Yeah, I'm just going to stop. Final question here, Instagram, Matt wants to know Dynasty Keep Trade Cut. Gus Edwards, Josh Palmer, courtesy of you. Well, come on. I'm keeping Josh Palmer. As am I. Right now, it's really hard to imagine the Chargers cap situation bringing back both wide receivers as is. Now, they might restructure one of Keenan Allen or Mike Williams, but they might just cut Mike Williams. And if they do, Josh Palmer's shown some flashes, been good when one of the other two guys is injured, and so he's the easy keep for me. Good, good-ish. He's so weird. Josh Palmer is so weird. So is Curtis Samuel. Yeah, weird. So is John Stamos on a hat. Weird. Those players only perform when you don't expect them to or when the situation is slightly weirder than you think. Like Palmer had a huge chance, remember two years ago? And you're like, what? What's going on?

But, you know, I don't know. All right. Any other questions for us, Brooks, that we have to answer? Anything you've got? No, you got them. You already said final question. Nothing luscious hair related. One last question. All right. Thanks for tuning in. Free Agent Frenzy next week. Thank you for joining us. Make sure you check out the Dynasty podcast. If you want more, fantasy footballers, every Wednesday. Check that out. Until next time, goodbye. Goodbye. you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the ff ballers