Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Steel Underpants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/26

You're not running back absolute desperate, but you need another one. Like you've got, you've got. I'm not doing it. You're not spending $7.5. No, because I don't, I see a bumpy path for Devon H.N. And it's not that he can't have big games. It's that I see both sides of it. I mean, we had obviously a very different scenario, but first two carries of Breece Hall this year went for 80-something yards. The next 24 carries went for like 40 yards. Like explosive plays. Denver had laid down in a lot of respects. Buffalo is going to be a tougher challenge. For sure. If I were projecting Devon A-chan this week, I think he's an RB2. There is a note that says Bill's Rush defense allowing the highest yards per carry in the NFL. Yeah. Okay, so give me then the number. You won't go 75. What is your number that you're going to put it in and be happy if you get him? 40. 40. 40 seems to be your limit.

If I need a running back, it's a different story. This is why it's, you know, you can't just say he's worth this amount of money or this amount of fab. Because if you desperately need a running back, he could be the solution to your problem. If you are kind of content on there, you know, who are you starting him over? That's another way to answer the question, right? I'd start him over A.J. Dylan, guys. Okay. All right. So the answer that question about five times and add about 10 fab every time you say, I'd start him over. I mean, are you starting, would you rather have Devon A. Chan or Isaiah Pacheco rest of the season? Ooh. I'd rather have the shot at A. Chan. I go Pacheco. That's, I would slightly lean Pacheco. Would you rather have DeAndre Swift or Devon A. Swift. Swift. Okay. Let's go to some of these medium starts at running back. I'd rather have them over Rashad White. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's for sure.

They keep giving him the ball. Oh, he's getting work. He is getting work. And if he plays the Bears again, he's going to be just fine. Doing his best. I don't like the Rashad White Slander. I really don't because it's all a matter of perspective. This is fantasy football 101. Last year, Leonard Four Nets running the football. And Rashad White's everybody's dream. Let's get Rashad White the ball because Four Nets too slow. Now Rajad White's. the running back and it's like, oh, this guy sucks. Let's give it to Sean Tucker, who's done nothing. We just are unhappy with inefficient performances and then throw him out the window. I thought Rashad White looked good on several plays last night. One play. I thought he looked good on one play last night. If you take that one play out, he was 13 for. You're playing the Eagles.

Yeah, I mean, does that not matter? No, does Bruce Hall suck after last week's performance? It definitely matters. Zach Wilson does suck, yes. Uh-huh. Yeah. So if Breece has a bad game, it's Zach Wilson's fault. If Rashad has a bad game is Rashad's fault. Rashad has had a bad game almost all of his games of his career. No, he has not. That is not true. Efficiency-wise. I'm saying like he's had good fantasy games due to volume. And catching the football also? That's not just volume. I mean, it's being effective in the passing game. No, no, no. You're just dumping on it. But those are different things. Effective in the passing game is different than getting receptions. He can't do anything but catch the ball thrown to him where it's thrown to him. That's not his fault. Right. And he can't do anything with it after that is my point. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. This is ridiculous. No, no. He was 5.8 yards of reception last year. That's my point. He was never good at it.

Have you ever seen some of these running backs that can't do that? Because there's a lot of them. Catching the ball is itself a skill. Plus, we're talking about fantasy value. You know, what happens is the point. We care about the points on the football field. They got manhandled last night. Baker had a pretty bad game. He did. So, uh, but the point stands. I would rather have him than Rashad White. Would you rather have Rashad White? Than H-H? Yeah. No. Okay. No. So we fought for nothing. Kenneth Gainwell. Kenneth Gainwell, 60% roster. Probably going to go, I don't know if it'll go down. Running backs are hard to come by. But 14-43 last night, two targets, saw the field about as much as DeAndre Swift did. Swift did get stuffed on, I think, three straight goal-line carries last night, which is, you know, he could have had a bigger game, is all I'm saying. Yeah, the way I look at Swift is he kind of is in the perfect place for his skill set, which his skill set is he is an incredibly athletic.

running back. I'm not sure that he's a good running back, like vision, decision making, but if it's there, he is, you've laid it up perfectly. He has the speed to break through the line. He reminds me of Spiller, Java Best. Some of those guys, you just shoot him out of a cannon. It will still work for DeAndre Swift. Gamewell, I think, is still a pretty strong ad if he happens to be sitting on your waiver wire. Because it's hard to get work. 16 opportunities, that's fantastic. I would love to have that for my RB2. Well, let's talk. Jalen Warren, 63% roster takes on Houston this week. I think Jalen Warren's a pretty solid ad. He's a great ad. He's not available in most leagues, but there's still almost 40% of leagues he is out there. He should be available in zero leagues. If you're in a league where Jalen Warren is out there.

This is a player you can throw in your flex on a weekly basis. And we've already seen like a couple of times this year where Najee looked for a moment like, oh no, is Najee hurt? And man alive, he just like I kind of refused. I was so pro Jalen Warren all off season. He was a guy I talked up on all the sleeper episodes and I really wanted you to draft because I think he's super talented. But even then I was not someone that thought he could play his way into being. maybe the one on this team. I don't know if he can. I mean, he might not be able to, but it seems it seems actually possible that it could be a near even split by the end of the season. And before the season, I thought that was impossible. Yeah, I feel like they have this undying loyalty to Najee. Like, Naji must be bringing the coffee every morning to Mike Tomlin and bringing him his paper and saying, because the paper people.

Right. Tomlin's a paper. They read the paper. But yeah, Warren in a 50-50 split, I could see that. When we're talking about lower roster running back options, people you want to take a chance on. Who's the, maybe the top two or three guys that we haven't talked about? Yeah, for me, the top two guys, Matt Berita, if you need to start, I still don't believe Sequin Barclay is going to be active for this game. It is a much better matchup than we saw last week. So in a pinch, like, Oh, gosh, I have to actually play someone. He would be the guy. If you're just looking more for a good stash, Tajay Spears, Tajay Spears, the rookie running back on the Tennessee Titans who is out snapping Derek Henry right now. He's an explosive playmaker. If the wheels fall off in Tennessee or Derek Henry continues to look bad, he's an interesting stash to me. Do you think Henry could get traded?

Absolutely. I think he's a prime candidate for a trade this year. If the Titans were to lose their next two or three games, which seems possible. They haven't really been outstanding. I think there's a very well-managed, well-coached, smart organization. And you might go, hey, Derek Henry's not our future. This isn't our year. Let's get something for him now. I could see that happening. I better get him on the field. have them play better so that someone wants to trade for him? Yeah, I think the pedigree history would, I think teams would be all over it. I don't think they would care about this year at all. If, perfect example, I think if James Cook went down to injury, if, you know, some unfortunate situation like that, for a team like the bills, I think they would come knocking. And make sure you are paying attention to the Baltimore Ravens situation.

It is a situation of unknowns. Gus Edwards, Gus Bus. Gut. Good. Good. Good. I'm sorry, Gus. I thought it was gut. He was having himself an okay day. And then he left the game with a concussion. Justice Hill did not play. Believe that was a toe injury. So we don't know if those guys will be ready to go. If they aren't. Melvin Gordon, Kenyon, Drake are the next people. Look, it's disgusting. Same old stuff for the Ravens. And even worse, they're playing on the road against the Cleveland Brown. So this is break glass in case of emergency, but you should. Use glass on yourself. I don't think you want this, man. It's break glass and end it? Oh, man. That's brutal. The Browns defense has been good. And I'm meant to come in today and just say after the weekend, like I had the Browns.

Last place in the division are division preview. I apologize. I think the Browns are outstanding. Like, they're going to contend. Who picked them to win the division? Did you? Yeah. Good job. They need a better quarterback. He looks bad. This last week, he did not look bad. Bail out, man. Bail out. I thought he looked fine. Yeah, I did too. First time in years. He's also had two top 10 finishes in three weeks for fantasy. Yeah, I get that. Jordan loves a top five quarter. How can you say he looked bad? 27 for 33, 82% passing, two touchdowns, no picks. That's bad take. There's no statistical reason you could say that. I can say that statistically that Jalen Hertz had himself a good game, but he looked bad. 82% pass or two touchdowns, no interceptions. What looked bad?

his playing quarterback like he just he does not look to me like he's back you're just saying he's ugly like he looked bad like he's just like man he's completions and you're dogging on him he just looks like he stinks let someone else chase after jerick mccannan he only had five touches in the game two of them happen to be touched this is what he does i have no interest um i also think you should be looking at kendry miller still Kendra Miller did not do something special in his opportunity, but that was his first game back, first game as a rookie, first game from an injury. He split time with Tony Jones, and Kendra Miller will get more. I know it's like, oh, Alvin Kamara's back, so Kendra Miller's done. Well, Jamal Williams went on IR. I believe Kendrae Miller, sooner rather than later, will completely overtake Tony Jones and still have the opportunity of the Jamal Williams role.

You know, it's like, would Jamal Williams, if it was just Williams and Camara on waivers, would you grab him? Of course you would. Well, I think Kendra Miller ends up in that role. Are you dropping Josh Kelly, the sunk cost fallacy of you spent Fab on him? Are you moving on? Are you going to put it this way? Are you going to start him? I think I would start him. What? You would start him? Yeah, I would take the chance on him if I had to. I mean, it's all about the options you have, but. Would you start him or A.J. Dillon? You start A.J. Dillon, I mean, I would start. He hasn't scored four fantasy points in the last two weeks. And it was against the Minnesota Vikings. He plays the Raiders and he's going to be the starting running back. You could say the exact same thing about he plays the Vikings and he's going to be the starting running back. And I did. But they did lose Mike Williams. This is the question. When you're saying, should I drop Joshua Kelly? Look at your roster. If you know you're going to start him, there's your answer. Obviously.

Don't drop him. If you're not going to start him this week, get him off your roster. Get somebody better on the roster. Absolutely. Okay, that makes sense. Wide receiver pickups. Who's your top three names this week? I mean, Tank Dell, if he happens to be there, the guy, we now have two games of Tankdale as a rookie. He looks like a baller. C.J. Stroud looks like he is absolutely for real. So he would be my number one pickup. If you are looking for a spot start this week, yes, I will admit it. Adam Thielen, old man this week against the Minnesota Vikings, especially if it is still Andy Dalton as the quarterback. So he's a spot starter. Wide receiver 7 on the year. Yeah, no, he's a starter. He's a starter on an NFL team that is accurate. And then, man.

Minnesota, Detroit, Miami the next three weeks for Adam. That's pretty great. I think he's a better pickup than Tankdale for these three weeks. He absolutely. No, I wouldn't do that. He absolutely could be argued to be the number one pickup. Adam Thielen is a great pickup. And we have besmirched his age. He looks okay right now. He is getting the ball right now. He's sounding good. He's sounding like this. He's a young man all of a sudden. The next three matchups are fantastic. I'm hooked. Breaking news. On the feeling. I saw your finger on a button, Andy. And I thought you were ready to be hooked on a feeling. And I can't play that one anymore. Aw. We're not allowed. Stupid. Waws. The Jets have added Trevor Simeon to the quarterback room. They have signed Trevor Simeon. Okay. Starting quarterback. He's, Trevor Simeon. He's better. Probably better than Jack Wilson.

He's not going to be the starter. They're not bringing him in for this, you know, to be the starter. But at some point soon, there will be, I'm guessing hangnail, but it could be something else that happens to Zach Wilson. Constipation? Yeah, I mean, there will be a very tiny injury that will allow the jets. And this isn't even a joke. Like I actually think this is the path that they will end up having to take. So that they don't have to trade or cut him. Yeah, so that they can kind of stick to their guns. He's their dude. We love him. We hope he comes back soon. He's just not, he's struggling with this injury. So we're going to give him some chance to recover. Probably just put him on the IR, but we're going to bring him back soon. So yeah, Trevor Simeon should probably be picked up if you're in a two-quarterback league. I think that when they move on from Zach Wilson, it has to be goodbye. Because I can't foresee a scenario where you paint. They can't, though. Where you paint the picture. Yeah, but look, Zach Wilson has already failed.

Then he's failing this time. This time he has Garrett Wilson and Luzard and weapons. He's got a defense that's otherworldly, and he's failing. There isn't a better scenario you'll ever get to have him succeed. He's also been now mentored and had an offseason with Aaron Rogers. Like, I actually, I was rooting for him, and I watched him come off the field with Robert Sala. Did you see that clip? No. No, I haven't seen it. You don't want to see it. Oh, now I really want to see head hanging down. There's us kind of joking around about Zach Wilson. But then there's what the crowd was yelling. Oh, no. When Salah and Zach Wilson came walking off the field together and some of the stuff getting yelled. Yeah, I don't want to see it. I just, it's unfortunate because you can just not be good. And that's okay. Like, that's just the reality of the situation. He could be a backup and make a bunch of money for 10 years. So the Jets.

If they do move on next year, it would be an $11.1 million dead cap hit. That's not insurmountable. And look at the draft class of the quarterbacks in that draft class. It's not worked. T-R-A-S-H, all of them. With one Trevor Lawrence at the top, who's probably going to be fine, but, you know, Lance and Wilson and everybody else on that list. Fields. It's not been good. But anyways, we're back. Tank Dell, Adam Thielen. If you don't need Thielen soon, then Tankdale's a great pickup because he's got higher ceiling. He's got a future. He's got a quarterback I really believe in and C.J. Stroud. And I would spend more on Tank Dell than I would, Adam Thielen. Definitely. He is a rookie who is showing out. And when you, you know, that's part of why A. Chan is so special is because there's, you know, look, the path for both of these rookies.

is more probable that they don't continue getting massive work and they just become, you know, a decent matchup play. But there's also the path where it's like this is a star and these are their coming out parties and we're about to see it. So you've got to take the chance at a guy like Tank Dell who had insane production. You look at the first read targets through the first three weeks for Tank Dell. Week one, 14% of first read targets. Week two, 21%. 31% of the first reads went to Tank Dell. He's looked great, and I'm not afraid of the Pittsburgh Steelers to the degree that I feel like, well, you've got a stash Tank Dell. I'm going to play Tank Dell. And the numbers are cross fading for Tank Dell and Nico Collins. I'm not out on Nico, but just saying Tank Dell is like, Tankdale's their number one wide receiver already. You can't have two first read targets on the same plate. Right.

There's a lot of wide receivers who are worth talking about. We haven't even gotten into the Chargers. So Mike Williams out for the season with the ACL. They spent a first round draft pick on Quentin Johnston, who has been unable to get on the field. Joshua Palmer has been on this team for a long time, and he's not a true number one. Is he a number two type of receiver when he's on the field with Keenan Allen? So how are you guys viewing? looking at picking up Palmer or or Quinn Johnston if I needed to start this week it's Palmer okay much like the Thielen it's Thielen and Palmer in that category and then if I am investing in my future then it's Quentin Johnson it's spinning up on Tink Dell I think Tick Dell's both I guess tank Dell is a start and a stash Quentin Johnston though

The ceiling has to be higher for him than Josh Palmer because we've seen him in a starting role. I'm definitely picking up Quentin Johnson over Josh Palmer because if I need a start this week, there are other wide receivers I prefer to start this week than Josh Palmer. I'd rather start DJ Chark playing against Minnesota than I would Joshua Palmer. We've seen Joshua Palmer disappoint a lot. Romeo Dobbs is a great pickup. He's available in half of leagues. He's playing against Detroit. We talked about that on Thursday night. So if I need to start, it's not Quentin Johnston because Quentin Johnson, I don't think you want to throw them right in your lineup. I'm basically, I think I just don't care that much about Jordan Paul. Let me make life difficult for you. Perfect. I'm going to read you stat lines from a wide receiver that's going to come up in the, you know, we're talking about Tink Dell. We're talking about Quentin Johnson. Three for 13. Three for 13. Bad. Five for 34. Bad. One for 10.

Awful. Snap count, 59%, then 56%, then 44%. Okay. This is the first wide receiver drafted. Oh, JSN? JSP. Oh, man. Jackson Smith and Jigba on the season. What's you doing, Seahawks? Is getting underutilized. I'm seeing sad faces in the slack when I revealed this. Very low, averaged up the target, very low utilization. I mean, we don't have infinite benches, Mike. Are you trading JSN and moving on? If I, again, this is based off your team, if you have to make a move right now to get production, you've got to do it. You have to move on. You cannot keep waiting for the breakout. Like, I do expect by the second half of the year, those numbers for JSN will be much better. But that's a projection. That's a breakout. You need.

Some teams are 0 and 3. Some teams are 1 and 2, and you need points right now. So I'm looking at these other wide receivers over him right now. Josh Downs had 12 targets this past week. Just 8 for 57 on them, but you would take that in a PPR league every day of the week, something to pay attention to when we're talking about rookies. I still think that will go down when Anthony Richardson comes back because that was a Gardner-Menschu game. And Downs was not, we were talking about Downs when Anthony Richardson was there. So I agree. You should be looking his way, but I wouldn't expect him to have that kind of PPR volume with Richardson back at quarterback. Yeah, it'll go down. And the truth is, I just like the fact he's on the field all the time. And Tutu Out Well last night. If he's available in your league still. Yeah, he's just, he keeps getting it done. He's a focal point. Mm-hmm. That's the thing that comes through. I got a stash question for you. Okay. Would you be preferring to stash JSN right now or Marvin Mimps of the Denver Broncos?

Fair question. Who Marvin Mims, I don't know what Coach Peyton is doing, but Marvin Mims, all the guy is doing for the team is being an absolute electric producer every time he touches the ball. And they're not giving him snaps. Here's the biggest challenge to me with Marvin Mims. And maybe they play, what's their three wide percentage? Because maybe we can get them out there all the time. but I don't see any scenario where Judy or Sutton are taking a backseat to MIMS based on what we've seen so far this year. And that part concerns me. He's played 27%, 24, 24% of snaps. Yeah, and I don't, but I don't know how often they're running, they were trying to run too tight in versus three wide out. And yet the past two weeks has been a top 20 fantasy wide receiver. I know, but you know, kick return. That's not going to happen every week. What's your answer, Jay? Mims or JSN.

I would stay J.S. I would lean JSN still. I want both these guys on my roster. This is not anti-MIMS. I want to see more and more of MIMS. We're going to talk about him. Oh, you know. A little hungry. A little. Hungry little fella. I've only had snacks and now I'm looking for a meal. I wanted to be more of Mims. All right. That's weird. He's a snack. Tight-end pickups this week. It is gross. It's gross. My number one pickup is going to be Luke Musgrave. The matchup with Detroit on Thursday night is outstanding. Not good. Outstanding. They're one of the worst in the league against tight ends. They've been giving up double digits every single week. So for me, it's Musgrave because I see the athletic, like I see the potential there. He's missed on some big plays just barely. He's, yeah. Musgrave is the pickup. And then Fergie.

Yeah, Ferguson has been 27.4% targets per route run this season. That's good. He's finding himself in a very historically valuable role being the tight end one for Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. So Fergie would be my number two. Musgrave would be my number one. Fergie just doesn't have a lot of great matchups coming up. He's got the Patriots and the San Francisco 49ers in the next two weeks. So I'm not sure you're looking forward to starting him, whereas Musgrave has. the Detroit Lions followed by the Raiders. So he would be the main pickup. You can always take a shot on Taysam Hill. I know he didn't do anything. But like any time you're looking at a trash heap and you're like, oh man, am I going to pick up this awful player or that awful player? Just look at ceiling and say they all have a floor of zero. Every waiver, fodder, tight end has a floor of zero. There's only like Tassum that has a ceiling of 20, although his ceiling is probably even higher. Sure.

All righty. Good luck at tight end, everybody. There's not a lot. I mean, you don't just want to chase two targets for four yards and two touchdowns with Donald Parr Hamburgerger. But he's done it multiple times now. Yeah, I mean, sure. If you want to place a touchdown potential bet, then sure. And maybe the role increases for him and Everett because of the lack of Mike Williams. But maybe good luck. Defensive options. If you're streaming this week, if you're looking for a start, Cleveland's under 50% roster, they're the number one defense in terms of yards allowed, points per game allowed. And they play Baltimore at home. Baltimore's offense is one injured, two, struggling.

Yeah, it's the Bengals of Browns as the available pickups that you want to start. The Bengals playing. I have them both and I don't know who to start. You were talking about this morning. You had pre-pick them up. I'm struggling. I come in and I'm looking at what he's looking at on his computer and I'm like, what are you doing there? And he's digging into Browns versus Bengals. So let's say both of these are here. How have you decided to sort it as of this moment? People are going to need to put it in their waiver claims. If both are there, what's the order?

The order for me is the Bengals over the Browns because the matchup against Tennessee is good and they play Arizona the following week. And Seattle the next week. Yeah, and the Browns go into a by week after the Baltimore game. However, the Browns might be the kind of defense you don't want to let go. If they dominate Baltimore this week, they put up numbers. Like Miles Garrett sacks the quarterback, but the potential for a bit, I always think about that with my defense. I'm like, what are the odds I get bamboozled here, right? Right. The Ravens are the kind of team. They can put up a ton of points. I don't know if Tennessee can do that. So I lean Bengals, but that's a tough one. There's also another team I'm going to throw out there. You're going to. No, it must be said, Jason. The team that just gave up 70 points to the dolphins, the Denver Broncos, the awful looking defense that basically laid down and forgot how to tackle. They get to play the Chicago Bears. It's the ultimate.

push comes to shove situation. I'm fine picking them up and playing them. I really am. They are now the, I was waiting for these to come through after that performance. But they are now the 31st against quarterbacks, 32nd against running backs, 27th against wide receivers. So that one game. Pick them up. It's the old fashioned stoppable force versus a movable object. That's right. The classic. Yeah, the, man, the Chicago Bears offense. P-U. Oh, boy. It's tough. But it's, I would, the Bengals, at least the roster percentages, we're seeing it. The Bengals are same as the Broncos, but maybe you're in a deeper league. And honestly, I think the Broncos will be okay. The Steelers, if they were there, only, you know, they're 70% rostered. The Colts, 6% roster, play the Rams. Rams have struggled two weeks in a row now on the offensive side, finishing drives, offensive line woes, sacks given up.