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Week 11 Buy or Sell, Vendettas, TNF Preview - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/18

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You know, you think about early draft picks on wide receivers and you put Chris Godwin in the Michael Thomas category, injuries, and then not what you got last year out of him. And really, you look at the matchups and you say, okay, well, you know, the outlooks are somewhat similar. I would say Godwin is safer. I, you know, as far as knowing he's going to get his targets. I agree. I agree. But.

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Jacksonville is one team's matchup, and the Rams are another team's matchup. I'm going against Jacksonville. Over the last three weeks, Chase Claypool is averaging over 10 targets a game. Yeah. Like the, I don't know if he's saying that Chris Godwin is safer than Chase Claypool is in terms of opportunity. I don't know if that's...

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completely accurate. Yeah, and you're right, Mike. I mean, it's tough to break that down. Claypool has had a couple disappearing weeks. And then the one thing to think about is, where's Ramsey going to line up? He's going to be on the outside. He's probably going to be on Mike Evans. And so I don't think so. I don't know if you're going to see a lot of him inside. So look, it's a pretty tough call.

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Yeah, it is. Chase Claypool since week six. And just for context here, the reason I'm doing this since week six is because week five was that monstrous week where he was the number one wide receiver. I want to take that out. So it's not in the equation. Week seven is where he completely had a dud game. And in those last five games, including the dud and no big blowup games, Claypool's the wide receiver 18. He's been pretty consistent. Two top 10 performances.

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two top 36 performances, and then the one dud. So I think Claypool can be relied upon right now. Which is crazy because I think Deontay Johnson can be relied upon, and I think that Juju can be relied upon. Yeah, fire up your Big Ben. So it's, yeah, really. I mean, the past two weeks. Did you guys see that report? It might be a little more tongue and cheek, but it talked about how, all right, for the listeners at home, Big Ben.

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last week did not practice. He was on the COVID-I-R. He didn't practice the entire week. And then the final day of practice, he got out there and he threw about 50 passes. And then had the best game of his year or of the year. So he went to Mike Tom and was like, hey, what do you think about replicating that practice system? Yeah, yeah. Big Ben does strike me as least practice possible type of guy.

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All right. Here's a question. Follow up from earlier. Chad wants to know is Clyde Edwards Aller still in every week's start, or is he a matchup dependent? Is he a flex to you? You know, what's so funny is we've downgraded Lev Bell. I mean, we've all said that you can drop him. And yet, that has not come within a joined, like...

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confidence bump in Clyde Edwards-Alaire. It's more, they don't need running backs or something. To me, it was, I mean, they don't need running backs, but it was because you saw, we've seen a couple weeks now of Levi-on-Bel, and two weeks ago against Carolina, Darrell Williams was running clearly ahead of Lev Bell. And the question for Lev being released from the Jets coming over to the Chiefs was, what does Levi-on-Bel have left? He is.

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His age is up there for a running back, not a human being. And when you talk about just work on his actual body, go through college where he was, his college work share is insane. And then you look at what he has done through his pro career. It's possible that his body doesn't want to play football anymore. And they went with Darrell Williams over Levi-on-Bels. I thought that said a lot about what happened. Meanwhile,

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Clyde has been disappointing, but over the last four games for Clyde Edwards-Alair, running back 5, 16, 43 was the dud, and then running back 18, where it was a massive disappointment in week nine against Carolina, and he was still running back 18. So he's still in every week play, but he's a running back too.

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Yeah, he is in every week play. He's Lamar Miller in that year when he went over to the Texans. And there was all this hype around him. And we thought he was going to be astronomically good. And he was considered a giant draft bust. And he finished as like the running back 15 or something because, you know, he was still actually okay. You know, Clyde Edwards Alara on the season is the running back 12. And he's getting the work. I look at his.

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forthcoming schedule and I say he's in every week's starter. He's going to be in my lineup. Now, if you've got really good options, I would say two weeks from now against Tampa Bay and then three weeks after that in the playoffs in week 15 against the Saints, maybe in those weeks you look to pivot. But otherwise, he's just a solid, reliable RB2. All right, Trevor wants to know, is it crazy to continue to stash Kittle in the off chance he comes back during fantasy playoffs?

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Uh, he's referencing a CBS injury report that says expected week 16 return. I mean, that's, are you going to put Kettle off of the, uh, injured reserve into your lineup to win a title in week 16? Yeah. I mean, I, I, I, if, if you don't, I'm just saying, now this is not saying I'm definitely holding on to Kittle. Uh, we could talk about the nuance of that, but.

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I will, I mean, there's no way that when Kittle comes back, if he's in the lineup and the Niners are putting him out there on the field, that I'm not starting him over all the non-Travice Kelsey and Darren Waller options. I mean, I'm not going to, you know, if I've been writing with Unter Enri, I'm not going to throw him out ahead of George Kittle if the Niners are saying he's healthy. And we've seen him come back from injury several times. And he just comes right back to work. Now,

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Whether they bring him back is another question. Right. And whether or not you hold on to them, that's a long time to lock up a roster spot. I assume you don't have an IR. If you have an IR, then sure, hold on to them. It's not really hurting anything. But it's all a matter of context. Do you need to manufacture wins right now? Do you need to block your opponent's waiver wires? Is there a great player that projects great on the waiver? Any of those reasons, then you do not hold on to Kittle. If you're like dumping Kittle to

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sign your, you know, some guy you just don't need who you don't even really like, then I'm fine holding on to him. But he's not a must hold. All right. This is a tough one. I was reading it while you're finishing your answer there. Need a high ceiling play. This is from MJ Conway. James Winston against the Falcons or Ryan Tannenhill against the Ravens this week. And for context, his opponent has Kyler and Camara. So.

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You know, you play Winston and you hope to cancel out some Camara, right? At Camara three touchdowns last week, only 15 rushing yards. Yeah. You play Tanna Hill. Is there a ceiling there against the Ravens? That's the question. Mike? I'm looking at. Anybody? The over-under for the Baltimore and Tennessee game, it's at 49 right now. The Saints Falcons is at 51.

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But the Titans implied total is 21 points, and the Saints are at 28. I mean, I know Big Ben got it done against the Ravens, sort of. I'm playing James Winston here. I'm going to go with that, and you just are, you're hoping that, well, Camara is going to do his thing. You're just hoping that.

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The touchdowns go to Michael Thomas and to Jared Cook, which with James Winston, not knowing exactly what he will do with the Saints, that is more than possible. So I would roll Winston. Man, the last month of Tanna Hill has just been so mediocre. The quarterback 16, 13, 21, 21. I don't blame him. His schedule.

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I mean, it's absolute brutality to the quarterback position. And it continues the next two weeks. He's played Pittsburgh, Chicago, Indy, then it's Baltimore and then Indy the following week. That's just not fair to have five or six games be that tough. I will say this, though, if you're looking for a trade target, it doesn't cost you much to get Ryan Tannahill right now. I mean, he could be on waivers. And if you're...

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If you can hold on to them, you know, once you're past the indie game in two weeks, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Detroit, and near those playoffs. Jacksonville is the first playoff week, I believe. That's pretty nice. Not bad. As long as the Yeti doesn't steal everything away from you. Sorry, to answer the question, I'd go Tanda Hill. Who would you go, Jason? To answer the question, I would go James. I think James's upside is higher if that's what you care about.

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Yeah, you're right about that. I think the upside is there. The downside is just a spectacular car wreck. Yes. All right. Are there realistic trade targets for a dynasty league here if you're shopping Zeke? What are some targets you would be looking at? Would you, let me ask you a really tough question. Ezekiel Elliott, not exactly leaving a good impression this year for fantasy players. Bad vibes. Bad vibes. But

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Would you go right now and trade Ezekiel Elliott for DeAndre Swift in a dynasty league? Yes. You would. You're that in. You're ready to go, Jason. I read you something, Jason. Okay, read it. Running back three, running back nine, running back 16, running back 13, running back two. Yeah, those are his finishes. Those are the Dak Prescott games. Yeah.

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No, I totally get it. And I don't think it's a safe trade to say this is one of those trades where let's say Swift becomes something special, which, you know, we've seen him over the last several weeks. Like Zeeke, if he becomes something like Zeeke. You're not going to be able to trade for him once it's happened.

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especially in a dynasty league. So this is one of those you've got to call your shot moments. I do think Zeke is more than I want to pay up for Swift, but I got excited when Andy brought up Swift's name because I think in a dynasty league, it might already be too late to grab him for a realistic value. But I think that, you know, if you want to call your shot on him and grab him, it's going to take something big. What about Clyde Edwards Allaire? Would you trade, you know, Zeke for,

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The super young rookie, you're gaining a bunch of extra years on the back end on a high-powered offense, even though it's been disappointing in his rookie year. So I have Clyde Edwards Aller right now. If someone offered me Zeke, would I trade Clyde away? I think because my team is in a rebuild, I'm not going for it this year. I think I'd rather have Clyde.

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I guess that really defines the whole thing. I was going to ask Al Borland, because he has DeAndre Swift. If somebody came and brought an offer of Ezekieli, I'm guessing you would say no based on your team rebuilding. Correct. Yeah, I'd rather have Swift. It's interesting you say that, Mike. Because you're rebuilding, you'd rather have Clyde. But I guess that means you might not think you're going for an extra. Because the rest of seasons, who would you rather want this year, Zique, or?

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or Clyde Edwards Allaire. Yeah, I think it's Clyde. Yeah, and it's because in the rebuild in a dynasty isn't necessarily a one year. I hope it is next year. And I'm going for it. But you have to look at maybe two years out. And in two years, who's going to be better? Ezekiel Elliott, who has been run into the ground. I know he's on his massive contract, but run into the ground or.

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Clyde Edwards Aller only in his third year in the NFL. That's the hard part in Dynasty, though. Yes. It's not because Clyde could be out of the league. I mean, Zeke might not be what he was, but we just don't know. Running backs are much shorter shelf life. Like, I'm not afraid to, like, same question with Dalvin Cook. I would rather, I would take Dalvin. Okay. Jason? Yeah, Dalvin is probably the.

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the best or, you know, top three, Dalvin is always going to win. Yeah, I mean, but always until he's not. I mean, it's like Todd Gurley a couple years ago. I was like, it's just so hard in Dynasty that the time frames I'm viewing players at the running back position in Dynasty is I'm looking in like a two-year chunk. I'm really not looking beyond that. I'm not looking for the dream of the one in 50 that that has a 10-year shelf life at running back position. I'm looking at.

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