Oh, that is bold because... And have Andre Williams, Rashad Jennings, Shane Vreen, and a Todd Gurley on that roster. I think that's bold because it's so stupid. Hmm. I mean, that's just one man's take. I don't want to be insulting or anything, but you're just so flat out idiot. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. Only one of us can be correct. I don't like that segment. All right. All right. I'm going to ask you guys a couple more questions. Who do you think has the best chance to be...
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Draft Preview, Rookies, Questions & Answers
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Draft Preview, Rookies, Questions & Answers
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130 passagesthe NFL's offensive rookie of the year. And I can tell you who mine is first, if you want. Yeah. Yeah, you go. Amari Cooper. Oh, okay. Amari Cooper is my guy because Amari Cooper is the one wild receiver. He's a wild receiver. He's a wild receiver. He's a wild receiver. He's the one wide receiver who's polished enough, talented enough, has performed. I don't care what team he goes to.
I think he puts up 80, 90 receptions his first year and makes a difference year one. And he's so, you know, a lot of people think that, you know, I've heard comparisons with him and like Roddy White. That's what I've heard on some of these networks. For me, he reminds me a lot of Victor Cruz. Quickness? Quickness. In and out of breaks. Very, very agile, very quick. I just think even if he ends up in Oakland, I like Omari Cooper. Yeah, so I'll go next, and I'll go next because Amari Cooper is also my guy.
For all the reasons you just stated, I think that he's the most polished. He has the most ability to produce year one. His routes are great. And a big reason I think that he could do awesome. And this goes against your running back prediction. I think there's a chance that he could fall to the New York Giants and be scooped up and have an awesome wide receiving tandem with ODB there. That would be an insane wide receiver core. Eli Manning would be climbing. Who's yours, Mike?
I'm going to go with Green Beckham based on he's going to... Doriel? Yes. He has... He has... Checkered past. Done the duty of dropping himself from the top of the first round. And... You mean inadvertently? Yes. Okay. Which drops your money, granted, but you get on a better team. So I think he falls down, like, maybe...
Eagles. I don't know if they would take him that high, but that's what I'm talking about, where he's going to get to a team that's in a better situation for him to succeed. Patriots? Yeah, I had that thought, too. There's a bunch of guys that I like their potential landing spots at that wide receiver, whether it's, you know, Dorset or Parker or some of these later round guys. My worry about them joining one of those better teams is simply volume.
Do they get there and make a year one impact that's high volume? Because you saw, I mean, Brandon Cooks is super talented. I mean, he kind of came into that better team last year, and he did produce, but I don't know. He produced less than Kelvin Benjamin, who went to a worst team and got the ball. No, I mean, missed a bunch of games. We'll talk about him later because I like Greenbeckham, too, from a potential standpoint. You know, as far as somebody like White, I mean, he's another guy that could perform. I just don't know how.
Kevin White's awesome. He's pretty raw. He's pretty raw. I don't think he's as raw as you think. I think that he is actually really good. I like him better than Amari Cooper long term. If I was in a dynasty draft, I would draft him ahead of Amari Cooper personally. But I think that he will struggle to pick up an NFL...
offense in year one. That's, I think it's actually kind of that level. I mean, he didn't get one year, one year guy. Yeah, and he, he, yeah, the reason he was a juco transfer is because, you know, his academics weren't high enough to get into college. So I think going to an NFL team year one's going to be maybe a little bit more difficult to the transition, but he's a beast. I love him. So let's talk about year one fantasy impact at the quarter quarterback position. The top two guys, James Winston, Marcus Marriota.
Which one makes the better year one impact? And then follow-up question to that is, who's the better dynasty play to you? I mean, we don't know where they're going yet. Kind of. We know we're 50% of them are going. So year one, who would you rather own? Year one, I would rather own Winston. Year 2 through 12, I would rather own Winston.
And then year 13 through whatever, I'd rather own somebody else because he's probably too old. But it would never be Marriota. And that's what we do here. We give you 20 years worth of advice in one. Okay, so years 13 through it's someone else. Good. Mike, what's your take on these guys? I'm with Jason. I want Winston on my team. I would like him on my team in real life. I think he's going to be a successful quarterback in the league.
And I just, these, the spread quarterbacks are, I'm, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm on board with that thinking of the spread quarterbacks kind of freak me out where I don't know if I want to spend the number two pick in the draft on that guy. Yeah, I mean, I probably have a little bit of a different take. I'm more on the Marietta camp. I think, I'm thinking in terms of the fantasy value of, you know, this is a Kaepernick.
versus Big Ben type of situation to me, okay? Where Marriota might, he might not be on the field, the very best quarterback compared to Winston, but I think from a fantasy perspective, Dynasty League I'd rather have Marriota. Year one, I'd probably rather have Marriota because if he's starting and Winston's starting in Tampa, it'll depend where Marietta lands. Big time. For me, I like the leg aspect of Mariotta. He's a good decision maker. Obviously, he was in...
a conducive system for past completion, but he was 68% past completion, good decisions, leadership, all of those things for longevity to me, especially even the baggage of bringing a Winston, you know, you talk about Dynasty League, you got to draft a guy right now that you hope pans out and is lower risk. I mean, I would say the only two, the only ways that I would like Marriota better.
is if he goes to the Eagles. If he goes to the Eagles, it changes my opinion entirely because I feel like they will run his college system and do it well in the NFL. What about Tennessee with Wisenhunt? No, definitely not Tennessee. Tennessee's offensive scheme is super difficult. They said they would adjust to you. Yeah, whenever you got a dumb down. I don't know. I don't think that they will have him. I don't think they'll draft him first and foremost. But more than that, the only other team that I would actually like would be the New Orleans Saints.
Because I think Sean Payton would know how to use him and would transform that team. He'd have multiple years, too. For as much as I crap on Wizz and Hunt all the time, it's him going to the Titans. I don't think is the worst situation, because I'm thinking back to the years of Wisen Hunt in Arizona with Warner, when they would go four wide consistently. I mean, you had a Hall of Fame quarterback running the system, but...
If that's what Mario da thrives in, a system where there's just a, he's taking one, he's taking it from shotgun. I think he does go to Tennessee. Really? And just a quick trivia note, because I heard this on the way here, when was the last time that Mariotta took a snap under center? Probably yesterday. High school. Yeah, I was going to say, I knew he did. You know, can you really be a successful quarterback?
If you don't know how to do that. He's never taken one in college. I think the answer is yes. And I think we're afraid because we've seen guys flame out. But RG3 had a very good year one, okay, in a system that was conducive. Kaepernick's numbers have gone up almost every year. I think we want to, we're very fearful of the dependency on the leg and the spread offense. And we know defenses are, you know, kind of adjusting. I just don't want to pull too far the other way. I think Tim Tebow is a legitimate.
fantasy. I mean, when he's in there in fantasy, because of his legs, he's good. Did you just laugh? Come on, man. He's an NFL quarterback right now. Part of Griffin's success was that NFL defenses weren't ready for the read option yet, and I think the read option is dead. Unless you're on the Eagles. Yeah, I mean, I think you see from Russell Wilson that being able to move around make that decision. It's positive. Yeah, so. All right, any other thoughts on those quarterbacks that you guys want to add?
No, sir. I wanted to look at our top three wide receiver candidates. You guys are welcome to throw anybody else in here. I put down to Mari Cooper, Kevin White, and Devante Parker, but there are probably three more guys that you could put ahead of Parker. You could, I mean, if you want to be bold, you can put them pretty high on your list. Are those the three guys that you think will go first off the board? Yes. Yeah, I would think so. I think they'll go first three. The other guys to think about are what, like.
Perryman and Dorset and Abdullah. Yeah. So what is the best landing spot? If you look at the first round for Cooper, White, and let's say Parker. Where do you think, if Cooper's going in the top 10, where do you want him to end up? The Giants. By number nine, what you said earlier. Yeah, if he could slip there, I would love that. I mean, just look, Eli would trust him right off the bat, right? I mean, he trusted ODB.
I don't know about that. There's a lot of mouths to feed in the situation. If he goes to the Giants, Victor Cruz is expected back week one. If he goes to the Giants, it's an indication that Victor Cruz is not in their plan, in my opinion. I think that's valid. I don't know. Even if he's ready, I mean, being ready, saying you're ready to play and actually getting in an NFL game are very different. But for my answer, I like one of those guys going to the Bears.
Yeah, that's who I've got for Kevin White. Kevin White's in. Yeah, I think a lot of people have Kevin White going to Chicago. And I would like it. It's a good opportunity. Come in as a number two, but be on in the field. Simple offense. Just throw it to the big guy, box out. Yeah, just run quicksland, bubble screens, and nine routes. And I think Kevin White will destroy. Yeah, I think Cooper is going to end up in Jacksonville or Oakland, unfortunately. I don't mind him in Oakland.
Which sounds ridiculous based on their past. But like I've said before, I like Derek Carr, I believe that he can sling it if necessary. He's got a little bit of that gun slinger in him, but he needs somebody to throw out that's not like James Jones. And I like Parker going to New Orleans, just for obvious reasons. There's a lot of opportunity there. They need some mouths to feed, and you've got Drew Brees. What if he lands in either Philly or Cincinnati?
Oh, yeah, Philly, for the same exact reasons. Anybody in Philadelphia is amazing. Is there any, would you, you think Parker's the fit for those two teams, or do you think it, do you like Dorset, do you like Perryman? Perriman. For Philly, I like Parker for. That's who you had, that's one of your guys, right? I was, I was looking at my, Mike, Paramet, yeah, dude, just, the guy's lightning. I mean, sub four, three. And so he's like, that's what.
I used to run those. And here's what... Here's... Sub 43, right? So, Paraman. Yes, we're moving along. Pyraman. 6-2 with a three-foot vertical? That's what I want. He's also the son of an NFL player who was a good NFL player, so he's got, you know... Pedigree. Yeah, he's got the pedigree. Yeah, which is... It's always nice. But I just... If you get him in that system with Paramon, uh...
Matthews and we're not sure who Huff is there or the Oregon Eagles are allegedly high on Huff. But those three receivers would just be an offensive explosion. Let's talk running backs. Yes. So we've got Gurley and Gordon the number one and two on everybody's board. I know, Mike, are you still a girly guy? Yes. I've flopped. I have flopped. You're a girly guy now? I am a girly guy. I was, you know, I've been.
watching and studying between, especially between Gurden and Gordon. Gordon and Gorley. Yeah. But, yeah, I just, you know, I watched more, and Gurley's, you know, he's the best that I've seen a long time. I believe 12 of 19 NFL executives put him at the number one spot with seven taking Gordon in the whatever poll that they take of those guys. I do like Gurley. I don't think you can.
be a intellectually responsible human being and not like girly other than injury concerns potential injury concerns i do like gordon as well gordon has some issues uh pass protection coming in fumbles fumbles have been an issue he does he's lightning in a bottle though his quickness his uh kind of stop to go he's gonna make big plays and i'm not calling him
You know, Chris Johnson, year one, because he doesn't have that top speed. But he has the big play potential. And I think you're going to see those with him, which might get him playing time really early. He's an acceleration guy. I think I would take Gurley over Gordon at this point, though. Yeah, me too. Is there any other big running backs that you think could make a mark? You have one of Mike's guys is Amir Abdullah out of Nebraska. Everything I've seen from Abdullah, from his tape to his...
