But he looked so slow to me personally. I never saw him really run away. Like in college, when a guy has the speed, they run away and the rest of the field is theirs and they get the touchdown. And he had big plays where he showed his speed, but it just looked slower to me. And that has nothing to do with his combine time. I don't care about combine times that much. This was pre-combine watching the tape. I just didn't feel like he was fast enough or strong enough for the next level.
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133 passagesAll right, let's talk to some wide receivers. There are a number of very talented prospects coming into the NFL. And so let's talk about the two more high profile, most mentioned names. It doesn't mean that they are necessarily the best. But let's see where you guys have them. Jerry Judy, C.D. Lamb, Jerry Judy out of Alabama, a lot's been made of his, you know.
incredible route running, a technician, his ability to really come in and be a difference maker right away. Kuiper has him going to Jacksonville. That would be interesting. But last year, 77 receptions, 1,100 yards, 10 touchdowns the year before 68 for over 1,314. So when you look at Judy and you look at Lamb, who did you guys have profiled higher?
I was similar to what you were saying with scouting too. I assumed I'd come in with Judy the highest because I loved him the last couple years while scouting other players at Alabama. I'm like, man, this Judge Judy guy is unbelievable. But actually, C.D. Lamb is the guy that I ended up with at number one.
He just, he was so dominant. I mean, you want to talk about a yak master. Nobody could tackle the guy. Nobody could get him down. If there was a ball in the air, I always assumed he would catch it. If he didn't catch it, it was surprising to me. So I think he's- You're talking about C.D. Lamb. Yes, C.D. Lamb. I love both of these guys. They would, they would be my top tier, these two. But I have C.D. Lamb as like I would.
I'll be shocked if C.D. Lamb doesn't make it in the NFL. And for wide receivers, even high draft capital wide receivers, they don't always make it in the NFL. I mean, we have so many examples of first round NFL wide receivers who are busts as opposed to running backs. But I'll be shocked if C.D. Lamb doesn't translate. Yep. I have Lamb as my number one guy for all the reasons Jason was talking about it. He just, he is.
His upside is so incredible. He has a highlight machine. And the concern, if you want to talk about, your draft location, I know you mentioned Kuyper's got Julia Jacksonville and CD Lamb to the 49ers. Personally, I will be shocked if the Raiders don't end up with one of these players. One of these two? Yeah, obviously they can't take a quarterback.
and still get one of these wide receivers. But I think they'll move forward with Carr and they'll get one of these guys. And that's when you have to buy into the talents. That wouldn't be my favorite landing spot for C.D. Lamb to end up with the Las Vegas Raiders. But you got to be, that's where I'm going to buy into the talent. I think that Lamb is good enough to overcome and will be, I agree with Jason. Of the guys in this class,
to me feels like the one most secure to not bust. I think personally, I think Lamb and Judy are both locks to have successful NFL careers from a talent perspective. I do side with Lamb a little bit more, but it's going to come down to where these guys end up and are these teams going to build around them as the primary wide receiver one in their respective franchises.
Let's move on. Let's talk about Henry Ruggs III, out of Alabama, another Alabama wide out. Impressive, we've got the Eagles taking him, which I think we had a quick question a few weeks ago about, you know, I don't even remember what the exact question was, but we had projected the Eagles taking a wide receiver. In this case, it would be Rugs, according to Kuiper. Jason, when you looked at Rugs on film, what were your takeaways?
obviously in the shadow of Judy. He's so fast. It's just, it's, you know, when you do get him on a, on a, on a crossing route where like, oh, there's a little pick play and he gets it just like, every defender just should lay down. So save your, save your gas because you're not going to catch him. But he's not much of a technician or a route runner. You know, everything was just a big bend, a big, you know, find a hole in his own and run. And so for fantasy, I'm not sure.
that he's going to be the type of player I like. I think he's going to be that big play, take the top off the defense. I think he's important for an NFL team to have a guy that can threaten with that crazy go route, you know, and that speed on some of those sweeps. I think he has, he'll be drafted high and will be an important player in the NFL, but I don't expect him to be a number one target for his team.
career-wise that's you know that just wasn't his role in college he doesn't is a john is this a john ross situation with the talent you come in you're a compliment you've got that game-breaking you know record-breaking speed but the team doesn't build around you or do you think that rugs can can get through that yeah i think it's more i think it's more akin to you know we've talked about taevan austin a lot about he actually does help
his NFL team over to the course of his career, he really opens things up for other players. And his, you know, few plays that are game changing change the game. But I don't think he's going to be, that was on purpose. But I don't see him being a one for fantasy football. Yeah, the big knock that everyone brings up about Henry Ruggs is he was the third wide receiver on his own team.
It's tough when you are the third option on your team and now you're getting first round buzz, it's hard to really merge those two things together because the production correlates so strongly with will a wide receiver actually make it in the NFL. Alabama though, they are this own, they are their own section. They're their own league. It's the number three wide receiver in the league. But I mean like they.
Take Josh Jacobs, for example, last year. Josh Jacobs was not the production monster compared to other guys being drafted at the running back position last year. But you could watch Josh Jacobs and say, that guy's the best running back. You kind of have to throw out the production a little bit because of the way that Alabama plays football. Because not everybody can score in every play. They have four wide receivers.
last year on their roster that could legitimately be first round picks to this year to next year. And that was actually one of my issues watching Judy that surprised me is I wasn't sure he was the number one on the team this year. You know, there were games that he kind of disappeared for and seemed like, I mean, I still love, love Judy. But I just noticed that. And that also should speak a little bit to Tua, right? Like, you know, you talk about Borough had elite everywhere. Burrow did not have the wide receiving core that Tua had with,
just four unbelievable wide receivers. Yeah, and we'll talk about one of his guys in a minute. Let's talk about Jalen Rager out of TCU. I really like Jalen Rager. You really like him? I really did like him. When I watched, I saw a guy who was super fast, super fast. Like he's got 4-4-7, was his combine? He's very athletic, yes. But I actually...
thought he played faster than that. There were certain plays where his quickness was just so elite. And he was tough. He would go over the middle. He was fear. He played fearless. You know, you look at the San Francisco 49ers and you look at the difference between Debo Samuel and Dante Pettis, right? Both talented guys. One is fearless in Debo. Just, you know, that's why we.
say, now you're a man. You know, he's just a man out there. And I really liked Rager. Not only is he athletically gifted, but he played two, you know, it matched on the field. And so I was a pretty, I was a pretty big fan. Yeah, he's a, I think Kuiper called him a touchdown waiting to happen. He's another guy like Ruggs was. Kuiper had him going to the Ravens at 50.
Five in the draft. What do you think? Man. I would not want to play defense against the Ravens. It would be better for the Ravens than it would for fantasy owners. Yes. You know, source withheld, but there was a publication out there and they were saying, Kansas City may try to trade up for Henry Ruggs.
So it's funny. When we were talking about him, I was just going to say, like, if he were to go, they just want the fastest team in the world. We have one play on offense. One. Run. With their seven. Run as fast as you can. With their seventh round kick, the Kansas City Chiefs select. Usain Bolt. All right, Justin Jefferson. We got to see him in the national title game.
1,140 yards, 18 touchdown, 6-1-202, ran a 4-4-3. He is a monstrous man, big catch radius. The Broncos were the destination of choice. I've also seen the Broncos potentially trading up to grab a Judy or a lamb, wanting to get another big weapon for Drew Locke on the opposite side of Cortland Sutton.
But Justin Jefferson, Jason, when you broke him down, does he look like a player that in the right situation can be an elite weapon? Well, yes, but with different expectations than I think most. I saw him, you know, I think he would be a great number two. I don't see him as a true number one guy. He was the number one guy, obviously, for LSU in college. That's great. I saw him more as a Golden Tate, Randall Cobb.
uh type of guy got a lot of uh screens a lot of uh you know he he used his uh speed but i don't i didn't think he was like a precision route runner necessarily um but there there i think he's a very good player but i think he's going to work better in the NFL as as a two than as a one
All right. Other wide receivers that were standouts for you before we close out today's show. I would bring up the name of Denzel Mims simply because he's athletically off the charts. Out of Baylor. 438. 638. 6.3-207. And he's 6-3. 6-4. So his adjusted speed score is just is off the charts. If you read the write-up on our website from Matt Harmon.
There are, I mean, you better have a fan to try and cool yourself down when you see the names that are being mentioned in this article with Denzel Mims. Granted, he still is, even though he has a lot of playing time under his belt, he still is more of a raw wide receiver. He is a bit of a work in progress, but he's one of those guys where if he ends up at a strong organization and they can.
really help him mold his craft. Denzel Mims could become dominant, but he also is one of those guys where it's... What about Indianapolis? The floor is very low. What about Indianapolis going there? Yeah, I would take that. Get a year with Philip Rivers. Have him bring the Mike Williams? Yeah, I mean, the organization seems very, very stable with Frank Reich right now. Yeah, I like Denzel Mims. It's funny. There are certain...
situations where for better or worse, you get biased from other events. And so for me, I got a little bit Hakeem Butler scared because, you know, Hakeem Butler was so tall and fast and big and he just, you know, looked dominant. Really loved his tape. And then obviously, Hakeem Butler could still be great. He missed his rookie year due to injury, not just not getting on the field.
Although good luck now. Hopkins, am I right? But yeah, Denzel Mems looked good. He played for four years. I know there's a strong, strong correlation for wide receivers that come out early to succeed for fantasy. He had the comp of Josh Gordon, according to Mr. Yes, that's what I was saying. There's some names in there that'll make you blush. But yeah, you are right, Jason, of the he.
