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Week 6 Matchups + Start/Sit Help, Wheel of Shame! | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1481

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Week 6 matchup show documents Wheel of Shame continuity and the hosts' start/sit panic at the lineup deadline.

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Usually these guys bounce back. Cooper Cup wheels up. Absolutely. Pooka Nakua? Yes. Kyron Williams. This should be a big game for Kyran. I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't deliver in this match. The Cardinals cannot stop the run. I can agree with that. 20 opportunities a game for Kyron Williams. And the game script should be Kyran. It should. I mean, it's a juicy matchup. I mean, this is everything you want. You have a workhorse running back. Great matchup. If he doesn't get in the end zone, you're probably looking at I don't know, maybe double-digit points. The receptions will be interesting because he really spiked. In week 10, he had 10 targets followed by 7 the next week against Cincinnati. It has gone down since then. And with Cooper cutback, what are those targets really look like? Does it kind of level out at two to three targets a week? And probably does.

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The big question, one of the biggest questions on our start-sit tool, if you go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, we have a start-sit tool, and we track the most popular inquiries. David Montgomery or Kyron Williams this week? Oh, give you Montgomery. Yeah, I think, Brooks, you were surprised by that inquiry. It's just clearly Montgomery to you? Yeah. See, I think it is going to be a closer finish. I mean, Montgomery's who I would play, but the... In my rankings, they are back to back right now. You know what? I'm going to change that. You're going to go Kyron? I'm going to go Kyron.

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Part of that is because I took a deeper dive look at the Tampa Bay defense thus far this year. And they're at home. They've got a buy week to prepare Todd Bowles. I don't know if it's going to be smooth sailing for David Montgomery this week. He's still a must start. But I do think Kyron's matchup, game script, it profiles to maybe make him a slightly better play in my mind. Okay. Philadelphia is 5 and L. They take on the 2 and 3 New York Jets. The Draft King Sportsbook line Philly minus 7. The overrunners 41. I think that line has moved to 5. I want to say that Philly started as slightly lower underdogs. Or sorry, favorites. So I think the line has moved to minus 7. The overrunner is just 41. That gives the Eagles 24 points to Jets 17. I can tell you as a Garrett Wilson manager. Yeah, that's really the question here.

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I never really know how to think. Because I know that they're going to take the shots at Garrett Wilson. Will they land near him? I don't know. I mean. They should have last week. Yeah, they should have last week and they didn't. The Denver match it. Only seven targets, which is ridiculous. I was so disappointed. But three for 54. Yeah, I think the entire world was disappointed because that was the moment. This was when you're going to actually get some good production from. from Garrett Wilson, but you did not. So it's been three weeks. I guess Kansas City he did over, he had over 10 points, 14 targets. But it's been, it's been just so sad. That's where I am with Garrett Wilson. He's on my dynasty roster. And every time I put him in, because I lock him in, it's dynasty. I'm just sad. Yeah. I'm sad. Yeah, no, I am too. And I keep wanting to jam that name into my lineup.

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All right, we got some popular searches, Andy. These are, oh, man. Not going to be fun ones, are there? No, they're not. Garrett Wilson or KJ. Osborne against the Chicago Bears. I'll play Garrett Wilson. Terry McLaurin against the Falcons. Garrett Wilson. Okay. Palmer against Dallas. Garrett Wilson. I'm fine going, Garrett Wilson. I think there's a world where you play KJ. Osborne above him. Here's what I like about the potential this week. The Eagles are going to be ahead. The Eagles defense gives up 39 points to opposing fantasy-wide receivers. Now, they don't play the Jets every week. But 39 points is a ton. I think Garrett Wilson can get you 15 this week with the potential of a touchdown. You have to have a touchdown. There's no way he's getting 15. Wasn't he pretty close without a touchdown the week before? No, 10.5. Oh, gosh. I was 14 targets in that game. Yeah. But week two is his only 15 point outing.

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and he barely surpassed 15 with the touchdown. That was the Dallas, the huge touchdown play. Did we cover the Carolina game yesterday? We did, right? I think so. Update there, Miles Sanders ruled out officially. Did we? Did we? Yes, we did. We did. Okay. Thank you, Brooks. Where am I? That's a Brooks question, man. Yeah, you weren't there. How would you know? I'm locked in on this enthralling Eagles Jets matchup. Hertz, Swift, Brown, Smith, Goddard. Any doubts across those five Eagle players? Only for Dallas Goddard because we've only seen it one time. But that one time last week, it was very glorious. It was nine targets, eight for 117 with a touchdown against the Rams. Tight end two on the week. He was so difficult to gauge because you had a whole month of

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nothingness from Dallas Goddard, but you know he's good. I'll go great. Dallas Goddard is a great tight end, especially for a past catching tight end, to have a full month to lose hope of losing hope and then getting to see it the one week. That's enough for me. I'm back in. I will say this. I don't think Brown and Smith have Monster Weeks together. I think it's going to be, I can't tell you if it's going to continue as it has, which has been all Brown, no Smith. I mean, the way the year started, it was all Smith and No Brown. Right. And now we come into week six. It will definitely, like, I'm playing all three with full confidence, but I know that the likelihood of all three of them having a game that you're happy with, it's pretty low. Okay. But they all have the possibility of having just such a big time game. We did the fantasy draft redo episode on Wednesday. A lot of feedback there. Brees Hall.

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We had some discussions about him. This is a matchup against the number one ranked defense in terms of stopping the run. If I'm Philly, I know what my job is in this game. It is to make Brees Hall ineffective. Now, Brees Hall is the unique kind of player where it's one play, right? Like you can be ineffective for 15, 16 plays and then break off a big one to make your week worthwhile. Where does Brees slide into your rankings this week? So I have them right now at 18. Let me give you some names. So Brees Hall. Or let's go Brian Robinson against the Falcons. Take the upside in Brees. Okay. Damien Pierce, we talked about him. Upside and Brees. Yeah. Then I think you're playing Brees, almost no matter what. Okay. What about Kenneth Walker? Oh, or Brees? Yeah. Give me Walker. Okay. Derek Henry or Brees. Oh, man. Derek Henry is against Baltimore. Baltimore, technically on the road.

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I think I go, gosh, I think I go Derek Henry. The one bit of news there on the defensive side for Philly on the road in this game. Jalen Carter did not practice today. That would be a big boon for Brice if he was not active. It would. The Detroit Lions, 4 and 1 taken on the 3 in 1. Maybe we forgot that they were 3 in 1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Draft King Sportsbook line, Detroit minus 3 on the road over under 42. We've talked about the Lions Rush defense, how good they've been. That doesn't make, you know, Rashad White, you're looking at pass catching as your opportunity. With Rashad Way, you're looking at hopes and dreams. You were that out on Rashadway. Is it this week or do you mean in general? Like he said it was this week in week. Okay, he's the RB 9 in week two. He's the RB 20 and week four against a tough New Orleans defense. And we watched that game. He made some plays. If you got running back 20 from Rashad White. This week? This week, I'll be so happy.

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Okay. All right. Mike Evans found out he's going to be a full go. Chris Godwin's mic start of the week. Any changes to that enthusiasm with Evans returning? Nope. The Lions, they shut down running backs, but adjusted for schedule. 27th against wide receivers. Over 35 points a game. And they are. They're pretty consolidated. It's going to be Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. If you don't want to be goosed, Kate Otten might not goose you. So there's your tight end on the Tampa side. Maybe. I only mention it because the lines have been bad against the tight end position and Otton. He runs routes, man. He does. He gets his cardio in. He got a touchdown last week. But he's been over 20 yards in one of four games. There you go. Jared Goff? This is a matchup. The Buccaneers defense just highlighting what I said earlier about.

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them as a sneaky play as well. They are number two. They give up 9.9 fantasy points per game, schedule adjusted to the quarterback, number three against tight-ins, number 10 against wide receivers. Like they are, they're three and one for a reason. It's not all Baker just like lighting up the sky. The Tampa Bay defense has been pretty good, and you have a low over-under in this game of 42. Has the NFL ever considered using one of those light-up balls? I don't think so. Like, you remember playing with those as a kid? Yeah, no, they're pretty good. They're awesome. Yeah. Can we get that tech into the Duke? Not until we get some sort of high-resolution goal-line camera. That's step one. I feel like putting the light in the ball is easier. I have watched quite a bit of baseball, right? Yeah. Over the last couple weeks. Was it when they swept those loser Dodgers? That was part of what I watched. A big sweep. A big whish. I...

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I can't believe they had a broom that big. It was a big broom, baby. This is not the point. What I was going to say is that some of the baseball slow-mo camera that they have, it's unbelievable. I don't know if anybody else has watched this. Can we just sell some of this to the NFL? I don't understand it. Like when they're doing the like bang bang plays on first base or something, right? And you're trying to see if a guy slid in or, you know. Right. It goes so high resolution, so slow. And we have none of this that we see on a weekly basis of the NFL. I just don't understand. I think the NFL likes it that way. Man. They like the controversy. It's funny. I was watching baseball and thinking to myself like they've eliminated 95% of the controversy in baseball. You can challenge calls.

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Things are very clear. The only thing is the balls and strikes from time to time. But like over the course of the game, I feel like a baseball game is less subject to the controversy we got with the Vikings and the Chiefs, where the penalty not called in the end zone defines the whole game. It's kind of refreshing. All right. Baker Mayfield, you're not thinking about that this week? I mean, I would. Two quarterback league? I think I might. Would you stream him over Dobbs? No, I'd play Dobbs with the rushing. All right. But the Lions' defense, I mean, obviously they give it up. They kind of funnel it to the passing game. Yes. Montgomery is in. Al-Man Ra, if he plays, he's in. I don't. He's a full practice, but we don't have an official word that he's back. I know that seems kind of like a weird thing to say, but because of the nature of the injury, just make sure you don't like let Friday be the last thing you hear about Amman Ra. Yeah, I can agree with that.

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Full on Thursday would be a trend that he's going to go. And then Leporta is, are you kind of, are you terrified of this situation? Yes. Yeah. Being downgraded late in the week is more often than not a really bad sign of someone playing with all that. If Leporta plays, the matchups not great, but I'm still going to play him. Anybody else who want to talk about James get more involved this week? Doubt it. Yeah, I doubt it too. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't think there's anything else. Sunday night, the Giants 1 and 4, Buffalo's 3 and 2. Goodness, the Drafking Sportsbook line now, Buffalo minus 15 and a half. More. So the over under is 44, but Buffalo is at 30, the Giants at 14. If Saquant does not play in this game, do the Giants score more than three points? Very unlikely. I don't know how they do it.

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I mean, do you even want to play Darren Waller in this game? If it's Tyra... Do I want to? No. If it's Tyraud Taylor and he's got the groin injury, you are willing? Now, what about all those alternate options? The Logan Thomas, the Zach Ertz, the Kyle Pitts. Are any of those above Waller in your mind? Not currently. Just trying to think of... Maybe you got Logan Thomas off the waiver wire, but he's probably picked up now. So is Zach Ertz. So I'm trying to think of guys that, like, the Waller injury was on Wednesday, right? Yes. I believe that was after waivers had run. So just trying to think through it of, you weren't preparing to be without Darren Waller. That was an unexpected pop-up on the injury report. So guys who are actually likely available on your waiver wire, it would be like Janu or maybe someone dropped Hunter Henry. Maybe someone dropped Hunter Henry after the goose.

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Would you play him against the Raiders? It's a great matchup. Nope. All right. Yeah. I mean, if Waller's out there, I'm going to play him. That's where I am. If a giant wide receiver catches four more passes, their name will be. I'm sorry. You said if there's a giant wide receiver, so I started thinking of like, huge. Yeah, I thought of like an eight-foot man. Oh, yeah. Look, if they had an eight-foot man. Yeah, if they had a little gigantor over there. If they had a giant man out there, They'd do all right. What was it, the Yao Ming strategy that we've talked about before? That's Jason's. Jason's strategy is line up Yao Ming at tight end, have him walk five feet and just hold his hands up. And I still think it would work for a play. It would not work long term. It would not work for a full drive. Can you imagine tackling Yao Ming?

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It would be easy. Well, yeah, because it's like those AT-A-Ts in Star Wars. Yes. You wrap the legs? Yeah, I mean, because he's so thin. I mean, he's gigantic and athletic for his size, but versus just a wrecking bowl linebacker who goes in low, it will not work. Okay, all right. Jason's not here to defend himself, but it's dumb. If he's back, I guess he's back in your lineup. Just sheer volume, the name appears. That is correct. All right. James Cook, last week, negative four rushing yards. They could not get anything going. I watched that game with close attention, and when they handed the ball off, he didn't have a chance. He only had five attempts, okay? So negative four yards, terrible. Five total attempts, also terrible. But I think you probably throw that one away. Yep, I do. Going to have more success against the 28th ranked Giants defense.

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Stefan Diggs, get him in there. Gabe Davis currently leading. He is on fire. Yeah, he's leading the league, note, with the most consecutive touchdown games for a wide receiver, four straight. Josh Allen, of course. You got to get the stallion out there, got to get him going. Okay, here's maybe. Excellent. Don Kincaid is still in the concussion protocol ahead of Friday's practice. Dawson Knox is limited, but it seems like he will play. Would you go Dawson Knox with Kincaid out over Darren Waller? No. Okay, so Darren Waller's in. Yeah, it's like any of those top tier tight ends that, you know, he put up eight for 86 last week. But it was a great matchup. That's, you want to. Yeah, but I think anybody that you drafted in that category, it's hard to put Dawson Knox out there. I agree. Logan Thomas, that'll be a tough one. Like if there was someone you knew that had Logan Thomas and Darren Waller,

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That would be, I would not want to be them. Yeah, I get that. If there was somebody over on. Let's go. Owl, who are you playing right now? Logan Thomas. Okay. Okay. You want to burn to the ground with Al Borland. Now you know how. Yep. Dallas, three and two, chargers, two and two. Fun Monday night game, maybe. The Dallas Cowboys, two-point road favorites. Is that surprising to you after last week's performance? The overrunner's 50 and a half. No. I think it's where it should be. It's a fun game. The Kellanmore Revenge game, baby. Yes. Justin Herbert, of course. Austin Eccler, he'll be back. Keenan Allen, forever and always. Any start sits on the charger size that you're thinking about, like Josh Palmer, Quentin Johnston? Um.

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Are you just watching maybe? Yeah, well, I'm willing to play Palmer. If I paid up and I really need that third wide receiver or flex, I'm willing to go with it, not expecting a huge output. And then we'll let, we'll see if Kuge can get the snap rate up or not. Only 51 snaps last time he played. I think the... I don't know if I like that nickname for him. No? Why? I just think Q's kind of gross sounding. I think that's kind of the point. Oh, you're doing that because it's kind of funny. Yeah. Huge. It's a weird name. But at least now that I know that it wasn't like a real nickname, I'm more on board. I mean, yeah, I don't know that. It hasn't caught on. You think he's going to have a huge game? Let's see. Let's go through the box score here for old QJ huge. We got 1.9 points, 1.2. Okay. 2.3. If these trends continue, he'll be at three points in the next couple weeks. And that would not be huge.

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No. That'd be a small game. That'd be QJ. Here's a crazy start decision. Dak Prescott. That's where I wanted to get with this. Yeah, go for it. Like Tony Pollard is in, C.D. Lamb is in, despite Mike McCarthy doing his best to destroy the fantasy value of everybody for the Dallas Cowboys offense. Dak Prescott, it's been rough for fantasy football. Their game scripts have been just as wacky as can be. But the charges are 30th when adjusted for schedule against fantasy quarterbacks. And like asking the wrong person, but we're on the air, so you have to answer truthfully. Like I have Jared Goff in right now. I don't like that matchup against the bucks. Yeah, we just talked about the over under. And he can come through because he can just throw. Like I didn't like Jared Goff's matchup last week, but I played him anyways. And he came through with touchdowns. Not.

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Not volume, but he came through with touchdowns, which Goff could do again. Or do you get nuts and go with the Dallas Cowboys quarterback and a matchup that has a 50.5. And you're asking me? Yeah, I'm asking, because I'm sure people are. You have DAC? I don't know. He's on the waiver wire. No one wants DAC. The honest truth, because unlike Jason, I do tell the truth when it comes to my matchup against you. I would like to face DAC. Oh, I understand you would like to face him because... I would rather face him because I don't feel like the ceiling is what Goffs is. And DAC is the 21st ranked quarterback after being the 18th grade quarterback last year. I know he missed some time. Dak is... He's got five touchdowns in five weeks. Yes. Again, it's been rough, but he was needed in that game against Arizona. But...

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Didn't come through. He was needed. He should be needed in the San Francisco game. And that's the whole point is he's needed. And it's a defense that, again, 30th. I know. 30th against quarterback. And a 50 point over under, almost 10 points higher than the Tampa game. So look, it's, it's a, you got to steal underpants for the week. I mean, I don't, I don't know if I have them. I feel like you'd have to put them, you might have to put on the, the titaniums. Oh, there's, there's one more level. ordinary views of DAC and the Cowboys in this matchup favored on the road, bad defense, high over under, everything peripherally says DAC should be the play. Yes, the process says, you should have a higher ceiling. The process is Dak. Squeaky, seedy lambs should be getting the ball more. Like, there's a lot of. But there is a gigantic Mike McCarthy problem. Even a regular size Mike McCarthy problem. No, this is a problem, man. Career worse, 6.6 yards per attempt.

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New play caller, Mike McCarthy, handling the offense. Handling it all right. Oh, he's manhandling. The London Beefeaters are a Canadian Junior Football League team located in London, Ontario. How did this come up? I just wanted to transition. I'm just letting you know, like, I heard a lot of feedback on the London Beefeaters, and that is a, it's a team, but it's London, Ontario. So just so you know. Okay. And then I was also informed that, like, Jacksonville, if they happen to go to London, like. It is the birthplace of the jaguar, the car. Oh. So. So the place that has no native jaguars, why do they name in a car that? Well, no, those are jaguars. Jaguars are the, you know, the creature. Yes. But the jaguar. That's a totally different word. Okay. That's what I'm saying. But the car has. Jaguar has no connection with the animal? I always figured it did. Of course it does. Of course. Mike, I'm making a joke because they pronounce it so differently.

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It was so dumb. What is that ex- Jaguar? Jaguar. Jaguar. I mean, we already struggle with Jaguar and Jaguar. Jaguar. They also do the thing. Jaguar. I mean, now this is a problem. If we had clown music, this would be the moment for it. We're done with Cooks and Gallop for now. Oh, yeah, yeah. Until we see you otherwise. Thank you. Yeah, that's fine. Thank you for listening, everybody. We do have a fantasy faceoff coming up. A couple of injury updates. Miles Sanders out. Tuba in. Dolphins still mulling weather to activate Jeff Wilson. If they don't, Mike McDaniel said he would be on a rep count. So if they don't, this is where my start of the week was most hurt and I'd put Salvin Ahmed in as a flex. I get it. Sam LaPorte did go through the walkthrough, uncertain situation. Odell Beckham playing.

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Najoku questionable due to burning off his face, but probably will play. Goodness. Because he did last week. All right, I'm looking forward to this. You guys ready? Yeah, let's go. Fantasy face off, presented by Draft Kings. Well, well, well, I settled into Mike's favorite spot number two last week. It feels great, doesn't it? Yeah, I didn't have to do anything. I just finished second and didn't get the wheel of shame. And Jason finished first. So do you know what's coming? I do not. I do not. Jason's roster blew the doors off of draft kings. Jason's roster, if he had, we both had Anthony Richardson. If he had not lost his quarterback, like, I mean, he cashed.

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He showed me. He played this lineup everywhere. And then we were, you know, lamenting that. He's like, oh, I put all this, you know, I put a lineups in there. I put some cash out there. And I lost my quarterback. So all of that's just why. No, he cashed everywhere without a quarterback. His lineup was great last week. Yeah. So, Mike, it's your first time. Maybe you forget how it goes, but I'll remind you. Will of shame. All right, what do I do here? Oh, do we have an updated graphic? We do. We got a new wheel of shame graphic. Why is shame so intense? Yeah, because we're turning this into a real Friday the 13th. This is no fear? It's a red rum font. All right. Let's go ahead. Let's spin the wheel. Wee. We've got, see the cowboy geyser. Ready Day. Silly rabbit. Right, bro. What is this? Out of this world.

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What am I doing? Oh my gosh. We're putting me back in the green mask. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is good. We've got, we've already got one man missing. You wore the right shirt today. Oh, I'm going to match. For those listening at home, Mike is now trying to squeeze his kind of. Gigantic head. Oversized head into a very tight alien mask. Oh, you look ridiculous. Spider-Man. Oh, man. Yeah, you do have, you're like green Spider-Man. But great news. I can't actually see. Oh, good. That means you be able to read your roster. Get a real frog situation going on here. You want to get into it? Yeah, let's go. And by the way, Jason is submitting a roster. Good. And Brooks, are you reading that roster? Yes, sir. Okay. It's hot in here. Yeah, that's the punishment. Ending up. Nope. I can't see any more, guys. It's all foggy. Oh, no. Well, that's what happens. Let's move. Move quickly? All right. What's your quarterback, Mike?

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5,000. Whoa. Gardner Minchin. You did it. You did it. I'm taking, yeah, just wait until you see the rest of this lineup, baby. When you save that much on the quarterback, I know. I know. Gardner Minchew against the Jacksonville Jaguarial wires at just 5,000. Brooksie, what does Jason have at quarterback? At 7300, he's going with Justin Fields. Wow, he spent up. Okay. And I settled right in between both of you. We all have a different quarterback. I am running it back with Joe Burrow at 6,300 at home against Seattle. Sure. Joe Burrow, the quarterback this week. Mike, your two running backs. So at the running back position, I have David Montgomery. Okay, all right. Taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at something. He's at 7,000 something. Yes, that's all you can see. One of my eyes is working. And then I have Rahim Mostert against the Carolina Panthers at just 6,400.

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Brooks, you're nodding like Jason has Rahim Moster. He has Rahim Moster. How about you do as well, Andy? What's the other, what's his other? Demercato. Really? Yes. How much is DeMercado? 4,900. Okay. Yeah, I didn't have those stones. So the moisture of my mouth is doing something with the nose. I don't know if it's just snot or if it's. Or are you breathing like your own breath? Maybe you're suffocating. No, I'm saying like my nose feels like it's just running. Oh, good. Good. Well, that's a punishment then. Who's wearing this next? Ew. No one. We'll throw that away. I do have Mostert. Yes, $6,400. My other running back, Alvin Camara, $6,800. Going back to the well with Mr. Camara, all the opportunities, all the pass catching. It's a great option. Give me those trifective wide receivers, Mike, because I know you stick. Here we go. Number one, Tyree Kill.

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