The TRUTH About Fantasy WRs: Part 2 + Jason’s Promises - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/3

Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't they score the most defensive touchdowns this year? The producers can vet me on that. Sounds right. But that, I mean, those things really do have a correlation for being bad for the passing attack. If your team is up and winning the game based on defensive scoring, you run the ball more and all of a sudden your wide receivers aren't needed. So this is a really curious case here for me because I do love the talent. I love the offensive.

potential. And in games where they had to really air it out, you know, they had big performances. But I just don't know that this is when you've got a couple of mouths to feed and a really solid defense, it's not a recipe for fantasy glory. And on top of that, you have Kellyn Moore, who has been kind of the mastermind of the offense the last couple years for Dallas. He is also one of the...

remaining candidates who's talking to Miami right now. It's so funny to me that McCarthy is thought of, like, people don't like his offense, but people love killing Moore's offense. And it wasn't, it's the same offense, right? Like. Well, this, yeah. I mean, I mean, sort of, because the offense for McCarthy was, Aaron Rogers, please do something.

Well, I'm just saying the outlook. I feel like it's a negative outlook towards Mike McCarthy's offensive scheme and a positive one towards Kellan Moore, but we're disappointed with what the Dallas Cowboys offense did this year. So who was it? Was it Mike McCarthy's fault? Then why is Killen Moore getting? That's just a really weird situation to me. I feel like it's like name value and not reality. A lot of it falls on Killen Moore, but at the same time.

any time that I can just verbally drop a deuce on Mike McCarthy. That is fun. Pants down. Yeah, pants down. Duce out. Yeah. For Rumba. That's a good, that's a good point, Mike. And I think a lot of people share that. It's a lot of fun to pile on McCarthy. It is. So there will be a curious case to watch next year. And just like all of the offseason chatter of.

Jerry Jones being disappointed in Amari Cooper, his $100 million man. Mari Cooper is still owed a lot of money over the next three years. He will be turning 28 and they can get out pretty easily. Not yet, not this offseason, right? This year would be only a $6 million debt. Really? Yeah.

Wow. He just signed that $100 million contract. That's crazy. It was very front-loaded, it seems like. So just going forward, Amari Cooper is drafted, let's say, in the what round? What round do you think Amari Cooper is going to be drafted in? Probably fourth. I think he'll drop to the fifth. Do you? I do. Locket or Cooper? I would take Locket. Okay. That'll be an interesting debate. Next wide receiver.

Oh, he's near and dear to my heart and get this man a freaking quarterback because he's near to the heart. My heart is breaking every single year for DJ Moore. Also, for clarity, Jimmy Garoppolo is not the quarterback to get him. I am clarifying that. That was a question. Okay. That was me letting people know because I think that that's a really probable destination. Like, Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be traded. They're working on it right now. And there's only a handful of teams that really would.

pay up and try to go get him and see him as the cure, you know, the Washington commanders. Commanders? That is the first time I've had to, first time I've had to actually say it in conversation. You wanted to put football team out there. 100%. Washington commanders. Oh, and if you start with football team and you switch to commanders, be careful. That's a problem. The food. Oh, yeah. No, thank you, Mike.

You just got to stick with football team at that point. Yep. Thank you for that glorious warning. Yeah, so I think Jimmy Garoppelow will be the quarterback, starting quarterback for another team this season. And it could be someone like the Panthers who are quarterback needy. And I guess I'm just saying that while I do think if DJ Moore got a quarter, if they were the sweepstakes winner of Aaron Rogers.

DJ Moore would be back of the first to me. Whoa. Top of the second. I think his talent is there. He is, like, DJ Moore is great. Dealing with all of the quarterback nonsense that he has over his four-year career, aside from his rookie year, which his rookie year, he hit 78 yards, which that's really not bad for a rookie wide receiver. But since that time, he has been.

Just under 1,200 receiving yards each of the last three years. Only four touchdowns in each season. But, I mean, those, he's so good. When you watch him on the field, if they could get someone who could reliably get him the ball. But anyway, so DJ Moore, only 6% of his games were great. Only 41% were good. He was kind of a lot of times in that limbo between.

Between bust and a good game, unfortunately. DJ Maher? Yeah. That was bad. I mean, I'll allow it because I'm a big fan of that type of a joke. But it just, it hurts me because I cape for DJ Moore and I proclaim that none of this is his fault. The truth. Except for the good stuff. That is totally his fault. The truth, getting, you know, back to that.

where we're trying to, you know, illuminate is that this is three years in a row of extreme talent, decent result, but disappointing outcome. Like, it's true to say that he had a decent season and also that everyone was disappointed in DJ Moore. And I think that what you have seen through four years of his career is exactly what you're going to get next year. I'm not, if Jimmy Garoppolo comes to town,

There's going to be hope. There's going to be hype. There's going to be, he's finally got a quarterback, and I'm not buying in at all. I'm not. I'm not doing it. We know what he is. He is who we think he is now. I mean, you just said it, right? Like the last three years, he's basically been 1,150 yards and four touchdowns. He's inconsistent through the season, but consistent on the year. And I think that there's a place for him in your fantasy lineup. I think, you know, as a wide receiver three.

You're good. But because of his youth and his athletic profile, we've been drafting him on the hopeful upside of him turning into a top eight wide receiver. And that's just not happening without a prolific quarterback. Yeah. So fifth most targets and receiving yards for a wide receiver before turning 25. He has been dominant. Very interesting, though, of looking at DJ Morris season going disappointing. Finishes wide receiver 19 drafted.

as the wide receiver 19 and yet we are disappointed on a complete break even of draft a value yeah because you're you're not drafting him because we're crumudgeons you're not drafting him to be the wide receiver 19 you're drafting him hoping he takes that leap i mean let me ask you this let me ask you this are you let's say you go and you buy a scratcher card and you scratch that take it off and it says free scratcher card

You're disappointed, right? Are you like, yes? Wait, so I won another scratcher? You want another scratcher card? Oh, heck yeah. Okay, well, then that's the difference between us. Because what you did here is you bought DJ Moore and you got exactly what you paid for. It was like, oh, this is a value of $5. I paid $5. Great. But you're not buying the $5 scratcher to get $5. You're disappointed. You're like, I wanted the $50,000. So when you go into the arcade and you change in your dollar for tokens, you put your dollar in, it gives you four tokens. You're like, what the heck, man?

I put a dollar in this machine. I was supposed to get a buck 50 back. More lottery than, you know, you're taking your shots at big winners here in fantasy football. He is in the final year of his career. He'll be going into the Earth career. His contract heading into that fifth year option. The wide receiver 20 on the season. Here we are again. I'm so disappointed.

You're disappointed in Brandon Cooks? 100%. I mean, he was awesome. He was drafted as the wide receiver 39. I'm just disappointed that he didn't finish inside the top 15. Ah. Because, you know, you look at his career fantasy finishes. 14, 9, 12, 13, injured, 15, 20. So now we have to say he's always been a top 20 wide receiver. Whereas prior to this year.

Top 15. No, of course you can't be disappointed in what Brandon Cooks did. 90 receptions over 1,000 yards and six touchdowns. Yeah, and rather consistent. He had a better consistency rank than even his fantasy finish of 20. And that was because even though he didn't have these massive win you a week games, because it's hard to do that with General Mills at quarterback.

But 56%, the majority of his games were good fantasy games, not meh, but where we established like, these are you're happy he was in your lineup. And even better was that you could kind of predict when some of those games were going to be bad. So I think Brandon Cooks is always going to be underdrafted, undervalued, and disrespected. He is the Robert Woods of four years ago today.

Okay, I can see that. He's a little more splashy than Robert Woods is. Makes big plays. Yeah, I just mean that in the sense that Robert Woods, you always knew. He's not going to be a top five wide receiver, but you knew when you were drafted him. Like when you, it's perfect example back to back with DJ Moore, right? Because fantasy football, a lot of it's about roster construction. When you're looking and you are literally in the draft and you're saying, do I want to draft? I'll bet these guys were near each other. Robert Woods and DJ Moore.

When you draft, when you make the decision to go Robert Woods, you are hoping for the wide receiver 15, you know, if you grab him at wide receiver 15. You just think he's got such a high floor. I know I'm not getting anything crazy special, but he's going to outproduce by some degree. Whereas with DJ Moore, it's more risky and you're just hoping that you get the outlandish great fantasy finish. I think Brandon Cooks is one where wherever you draft him, he's going to outproduce.

that because people don't care about Brandon Cooks anymore. Brandon Cooks is essentially in the last year of his contract. He's 28 this year. He technically has a couple more years on the books, but those seem like voidable years to spread out the contract. He'll be interesting to, like, could he get traded again?

Well, Brandon Cooks can always be true. I mean, that's like one of his favorite things. I think he's trying to live in all 50 states. And so that could be his bucket list. Right. So I think that's where he's going to the general manager saying you can get a good draft pick for me because he can't. Yes. He always comes at a cost. But no, I think that, you know, if you're the Houston Texans, you don't have a lot of free agents knocking down the door to come play for you right now. I can't imagine that they would look to unload Brandon Cook's who was good.

they've got something potentially in Davis Mills. And going into year two, having a Brandon Cooks, I mean, Brandon Cooks should be better next year than he was this year. And he was good this year. The remaining players that we could talk about, I'll list them, Jason. You see, you tell me who you want to talk about. So Amman Ross St. Brown was the wide receiver 21. T. Higgins was 22. We kind of talked about him with Jamar Chase. Hollywood Marquise Brown at 23.

Darnel Mooney, what, aka the werewolf? The werewolf. The moon's out. It's the... Where are we on the werewolf? Are we... It's gone. You're letting it go into the... Yeah. It's gone. It's never going to stick. It's fading away like a werewolf back into a human when the moon's gone. It's a crescent. So he's not the werewolf anymore. I think that that nickname, you've got like a statute of limitations for it to stick.

If it doesn't stick, then that it gets wiped from history and you move on. I think the player to talk about, we're going to talk about Amin Rae St. Brown in a couple weeks. We've got the rookie review show coming up. I'll tell you what. Because we don't go anywhere in the off season, we will eventually talk about all of these players. Several times. But Hollywood Brown, and while I'm talking, why don't you find the drop? Because I love the Hollywood drop. But Hollywood Brown was unbelievable.

He was, good, thank you. Hollywood Brown was as good and as consistent as any wide receiver in the first half of the year when Lamar Jackson was healthy. Wide receiver five through week nine. Yeah, I mean, he was locked and loaded every week. Target, yardage, just exactly what, you know, we had hoped we had in Hollywood Brown.