Week 5 Matchups + TNF Fireworks, Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4

You're thinking I'm going to need the Ws here? I think you're going to need the W this week. Kansas City? Yeah, they're 4-0. But there's like, there's like sexy 4-0 and then there's like, Kansas City. I can't believe you're 4-0. And then there's takeaway Rashi Rice. And then Kareem Hunt's been limited. There's been some talk of his injury being a problem. And wait, Kareem Hunt? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's been, there's been some chatter this week about that. Clyde coming back. Carson Steele, P. Ryan, it's going to be a mess in the backfield. His rushing line's only 37 and a half. So you're going into this game with Kareem Hunt and you're saying, oh my gosh, you better catch, you better catch four or five passes to give me a shot or score a touchdown. All right. If Kareem Hunt doesn't play, what do you think of the running back room? No, I wouldn't pick up Carson Steele and playing. Okay, thank you. That's what you're dealing with mentally because you just drop Carson Steele and you are in a laundry machine.

emotionally. He would be the guy. You don't think. I think Clyde could come in. I'd play P. Ryan over steel if he was the guy. That's fine. You can make that decision. I just, I think it won't be Clyde until next week. If at all. I'm not calling for Clyde to take over, but like everything was that I had read was we're going to give him run with the practice squad. Like they got it. He needs to get. They've said he's in good shape, but he has to get into football shape. And that will take. a little bit of time, at least a few practices. Now, Papa Josh, I mean, I just bet on your team. Are you willing to make this bet? Dude, you're not wrong very often. So you feel confident enough to... Who am I betting against? Yeah, what is the... Just the world. Patrick Mahomes. You're betting against Mahomes. I'm with Josh. What does he have to gain? Are you going to put... Are you going to put Saints? Who do you think is going to win? The Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, so you should be the bet.

I said the Saints are going to win. But I don't care. This is another one of those. Back to this, I don't care. All right. Well, look, Patrick Mahomes. Is he an option for people this week? No, Rashi Rice is a big deal. I don't think you should be starting Patrick Mahomes. Saints are a good defense, too. They are a good defense. Like, you know, if Mahomes was out there on waivers and I've got Gino, I'd rather play Gino. Why are they five and a half point favorites? Because they're the chiefs. Because they win every game. They got the ref. I will say this. They're 4-0. They're at home and they're against the Saints. One thing that is really, really surprising. They have won 17 to 10, 2217, 26, 25, 27. All one-score games. All one-score games. Their games have hit the over just 33% of the time, by the way, since the beginning of 2023. And the over-under is only 43. So this could be a drag-out. This could be another one-score game.

This could be freaking 21-17 or something like that. Yeah, I agree. It's surprising how often, for a team that wins all the time is always favored and is great and is a back-to-back Super Bowl champion, it's surprising how often they don't cover their spread, even though they win. So like I did pick the Saints in this game on the five and a half point spread. I think it's close. Sounds like an almost upset to you. Yeah, no, I wasn't surprised by it, which means the chiefs are going to blow them out. But I agree with you. That's the rule. You have to be like... Usually I'm shocked that you're almost upsets and then they come through. I wasn't surprised here, so good luck. Yeah. Mike, do you agree on the Mahomes thing? Are you setting him down or do you think at home he'll get it done with Worthy and Kelsey? I was going to start reading some names for everybody. Because right now Mahomes in my rankings is at 12. And I don't know if I like that or not. Would you play Sam Darnold against the Jets? Yep.

Trevor Lawrence against the Colts. Jason didn't answer the Darnold one. We moved on to Lawrence. Jason made a whole big thing about it. I'm in. I'm in on Darnold. Jason, Sam Darnold or Patrick Mahomes. I'll go Darnold. Dach Prescott against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'd go Dack. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then the grossest one, Voldemort against the Washington Manders or Patrick. Say it. Say it. The name you cannot be named. I dare you. I dare you. Look, there is some emotional wreckage that will happen should you make that play. Either way, if you make the plane it's right, you're going to feel really bad. You make the play it's wrong. You're going to feel really bad. Yeah, you get it right. You're on Voldemort's theme. I'll lose with Mahomes. You'll lose with my dignity. Xavier Worthy. His line is 42 and a half receiving yards. That's pretty good.

He still feels like a touchdown or bust situation. I agree. This is a player to keep your eyes on closely this week. If you're watching this game, it's an island game. Watch him before and during the snaps. Like just keep your eyes on him because it's how they use him. They've basically been using him 40 yards down the field or behind the line of scrimmage for the most part, like, you know, shallow. I want to see if they give him anything that is in that like 15 yard area. Like a mature route tree? Yes, exactly. Not a little sapling? I do believe he has that in his repertoire. I saw it in college. So this is something where I just want to see a couple packages where he is being used as an alpha wide receiver. If they don't do it at all this game, then it's not going to happen. Get ready to see what I called the Sterling Shepherd touchdown last night. Get ready for the juju touchdown. But really get ready for the Justin Watson touchdown. Okay? That's my touchdown.

surprise of this game. Justin Watson gets into the end. Yeah, he's at least been on the field pretty consistently. Has it done anything, but. And we're confident about Travis Kelsey. On the other side of the football, Alvin Camara, they've been taking it easy in practice, but his rushing line is very high. He, it's a half. Yeah. Hit a half. Um, yeah, I mean, this is so far on the course of the season, both, uh, when you adjust for who they've played and without. The chiefs are the toughest team to run on. You got Chris Jones there really just clogging up the lanes. Thankfully, Camara feels kind of game script and matchup proof with his receiving ability. So you're going to start him, but I wouldn't expect monstrous performance this week. Olava and Shaheed. Yeah, I'm playing them both. It was nice to see Shahid, who's the wider receiver 20 on the year, bounce back from...

the zero reception on five target game to 11 targets, eight catches, 83 yards. He was just as involved, if not more, than Chris Olavi last year. I mean, you basically gave Chris Oliva's line. He was 10 targets, eight receptions, 87 yards. So they, you know, it's a 1A, 1B situation, which is, I think, sad for most fantasy managers. I know, I know myself, I made a bet on Chris Olave being just the clear target leader by a mile. And it's not necessarily that case. He's been good, though. Yeah, he has been good. He is pretty much doing what he did last year. Thankfully, this year, there's not the expectation that he is some top five wide receivers so you don't feel as bad. He is an A, an A in our consistency ranking. Over 60% of his games are crossing the benchmark of a solid, helped you game. He just doesn't really ever have the explosive, like,

30 point 25 point games. Who gets that? I mean, I imagine it's Olave, but is he going to get that the blanket number one treatment from the chiefs? Yeah, he would be the primary target to take out. Johnson's Mike's titanium underpants start of the week. Yes. However, he was still limited in practice. It's a forearm. Are his ribs that? Are his ribs broken? No. Take some hills ribs are broken. Yeah. He said that like you liked it. I just said it like I knew. I was aware. Austin Echler will play in week five. Brian Robinson is considered a game time decision. So, I mean, that makes Echler flex consideration regardless of Robinson's status. Tankdale practicing again and Joku practicing again. Deontay Johnson, not listed on the injury report. But is he practicing? Yeah, right. I don't know. I don't know if the ground is too soft or whatever happened last week. But guess what?

Tell me. We're going to do this. Fantasy face off, presented by Draft Kings. All right, Jason is the shame this week. Mike took it home. I'm comfortably in second place last week. So we've got your opportunity, Jason, before we reveal our rosters to spin that wheel. Spin it. Wheel of shame. All right. Not even I know which one it is. Oh, you don't? All right. Well, then you can tell the listeners what the wheel is saying. Spin it. All right. We're looking at it. We got a Viking, a cowboy, a pizza face. Where is he? Oh, okay. We got a Immorten Joe. Immort. What is that word? Watch some movies maybe sometime. Oh, I don't know what this is. What? How do I? Okay. All right. It's upside down. I think you're upside down there. You ever saw Mad Max?

Nope. Okay. This isn't Bain? No, no, no, that's that's way to. Can you describe Mike for those that don't know the character? Yeah, if you're listening, it is a, it's a face mask. It's got a bunch of like tubes coming out of it. He's fogging his glasses. My glasses are fogging. This is good. I'm getting a picture here. It looks like, like this. If you're, if you're, if you know Arizona, the city of Anthem would love this mask. This is a real special mask. Oh, my goodness. All right. I feel like I need to talk like this. It is kind of beanie, but it was. All right. Well, let's get into our lineups while Jason can still breathe. I'll kick it off at quarterback. I'm shame free this year through the first three matches. I'm not going away from the guy who's kept me there. I'm.

Playing Kyler Murray. Wow. I knew I would be live with it this week because of the San Francisco matchup. What's his salary? $6,700. Whoa. Okay. Well, you paid. I'm sticking. You paid $200 more than I did. I'm going. Jason, I got a little worried when you were talking about it. I got Jordan Love against the Rams. Uh-huh. And I had them all week and I pivoted. We are live at quarterback. Oh, let's go. Because I saved $500 from Andy. And I went with the quarterback on the other side of the field. Brock Purdy, 6,200. All right, so we got three brand new quarterbacks. That's cheap. It is also very rare that we have all of our quarterbacks live. All right, my running backs, guys, I spent up on Kyren Williams, 7,600 against Green Bay at home, and then at 5,600.

The guy we've been talking about all the show, I'm playing Austin Echler this week, regardless of how Brian Robinson turns out. He could be alone, he might not be, but Austin Echler is back, and I'm playing him at $5,600. I have been very familiar with the slate this week, looking at this a lot, and I have not considered him at all, and I love that. That's a good price. All right. Okay, my running backs as I scream through this mask. I paid up as well. 7,800. I got King Henry. I'm going to say that he has another 200 rushing yard game. And then I've got Kenneth Walker at 6,800. So I did put my money into my running backs and non-pass catchers. I got scared. Kenneth Walker was in there over a Chiron.

And I got scared because of the news. I ain't scared. Me and Jason are both riding in the bone zone. Go to the bone zone. That sucks because he was locked all week. I mean, he was from day one. It was Ken Walker until this morning. And I just felt scared with the oblique limited practice. I get it at 6,800. And then I don't have Brock Purdy. So I went the other way. I went Jordan Mason at 7,400 against the cradnals. I don't like how this is going so far. I'm in trouble. Those are good running back. Mike. My wide receivers Marvin Harrison Jr. 7,500 correlating with Murray because that's what I do. 75? That's his price? He's expensive. Dang. He's very expensive. And then Jaden Reed at 6,500. Nice. And Jordan Whittington at 4,600. Okay. All right. Well, I've got Jaden Reed as well.

I paid up. Every time he speaks, I can't not laugh. I paid up over, you know, it's like him or Wix. Wix is 5,000. It's a great deal. But Reed is the guy. So I've got Jordan Reed. Yes. I do have Brandon Ayuk, who this is my biggest fear point of my roster. I lost this week. I'm wearing this mask because Brandon Ayuk couldn't get me six points. But I think against the Cardinals, he gets right. He's correlating with Brock Purdy. And I do have Wondale Robinson, full PPR in here. He's only 5,600. I expect him to at least catch a lot of passes for nothing. All right, you think I don't got Jordan Whittington in this lineup. You're a fool. He's in there for me at 4,600. Then I have Bryant Thomas Jr. of the Jackville Jaguars, only 5,900. And then I was shocked at the Marve price because for just $200 extra dollars, Nico Collins.

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back in my lineup against the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. It feels like he should be in every lineup. My flex is Brian Thomas. So I do have Brian Thomas Jr. 5,900. At tight end, I went basement shopping, which four targets each the last three weeks. I went, uh, all junior. Oh, Eric. Yeah. Okay. In Cincinnati. I do it. He's 2700. I'm telling you. Jason keeps, you keep saying dynasty. I think redraft people need to be paying attention. Four straight weeks with four targets. He's taking over. And four catches. When you said you went all junior, I was waiting to hear who this junior was. I didn't realize. Oh, because I had done Brian. Oh, I got Brian Thompson. I got Marvin Harrison, Jr. I'll get Eric, All Jr. And then I've got the Broncos defense at 2,900 against Las Vegas. The Broncos defense is who I really wanted. They're the probably the best price defense on the slate. I couldn't afford them. I went with the Colts.

The Colts on the road against Trevor Lawrence. That was all I could afford. I would have Tucker Kraft at 3,500, my start of the week at tight end. And Keon Coleman is my flex at 4,700. I think he's been getting more and more involved as good player. Good chance of a touchdown. I had Jordan Love, so I got to put in a stack. And I went with a super stack. I got Tucker Kraft at tight end. And then Don Tavian Wicks at 5,000. And that left me scraping the barrel at the defensive position. I'm going with the Panthers against Caleb Williams and hope that he does more stupid stuff. All right. There you go. That was fantasy forecast presented by Draft King Sportsbook. New Draft King's customers bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets. Instantly download the sportsbook app and use the codeballers only at Draft King Sportsbook.

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