Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 16 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, #FootClanTitles

Big game for Mark Ingram rewarding you if you started him this week. Jay Jai, we talked about it, 206 yards in a touchdown. They just kept handing him the ball. Is Jaii, is he a running back one next year? I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I don't think so. I mean, where do you think he's going to get drafted? He might be drafted as one. Yeah. Yeah.

I think he'll get drafted in the second or third round. But you have, I mean, Kenyon Drake look great in that game. You've seen what that coaching staff has done, trying to bring in C.G Anderson and Matt Forte and trying to do different. Yeah, they tried. And then JJ said, I'm going to have three, 200 plus games. The five games before this, he had no game over 87 yards. He's inconsistent. Yeah, it's, it's hard. But yes, he'll be drafted as a one. Yeah, it's, it's pretty hard to trust him. Here's another guy, what do you do? How do you trust, which is DeAndre Washington had a great game.

We loved him early in the season. He was my favorite handcuffed to have. And then he was healthy scratched. Oh, yeah. And Richard was taken over. Now we come into this game and you got him running 12 times. There's a good number for that type of back. 99 yards, two touchdowns. Nobody played him. But are you picking him up? Is he now the back? No, no. I mean, that's a good question. To me, this was hot hand, right? He had 22-yard touchdowns. He probably accumulated carries with the hot hand approach. Latavius Murray, by the way.

We'll talk about him. The Raiders, Richard scored in this game, was my point. I mean, Richard was in there. He scored. The Raiders have gone full cerebrus. They are just, they are the three-headed dog. That's what they will be. We had a portion of time there where Latavis Murray was the guy. And quickly, apparently I said that Thor was a Greek mythological god. That was Norse. Yes. I don't, I don't even know how.

We didn't catch it. Clearly he is not from the Greek mythology, and that was a gross, gross, gross. Did you make the trans, the three-headed dog went right into the mythology? Is that how it came back to mind? That's how it reminded me of it. Okay. Well, I'm embarrassed. Well, you should be. Knowledge is power. That's what you said. You saw basically Latavius Murray still lead in touches. He got 15 touches, so he had all the opportunity, even more so than D'Andre Washington. DeAndre Washington with 12. Jail and Richard got six.

So take it for what you want. Take it for what you want. No, I mean, I think that. I think that backs up the kind of hot hand approach with DeAndre Washington. You know, Shady. Shady was my number one back on the week. He had a good game. Every week. Well, Sean McCoy is just fantastic. I think he was one of our wins this year where we really pushed Shady early in the season when he was going more second round.

He was going. He was a third, fourth round guy. Yeah. Made no sense. He was coming off the injury plagued year. People were disappointed in that offense and that team. Kevin Coleman had a good game. Because he was on the road. Yeah. Talk about that. That's just a crazy, crazy stat you failed. This was from Evan Silva, but he had tweeted out. I'm trying to remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 10 of 12 of Freeman's touchdowns were at home.

Meanwhile, nine of 11 of Coleman's touchdowns were on the road. It was just this weird, fluky anomalous thing. And then Tavin Coleman adds a touchdown on the road. And his was similar to Parker where the tackling was just.

horrifying and even Coleman could not believe that he was running it for a touchdown. Jason was, Jason was screaming at the screen saying break it, go. Like, just being facetious. I was playing against Matt Ryan. So I just every time they handed the ball off, I'm like, take it to the house. And he, and he did. He listened. It was very nice. La Garrett Blunt, start of the week, got a couple more touchdowns to add to his, his stat line this year. Chris Ivory had an okay game as they a cruel. Todd Gurley, another start of the week, scored still.

Couldn't put together more than three yards of carry. What do you do with Todd Gurley? 87 total yards in a touchdown you're happy with. But 67 yards on the ground with 23 carries against San Francisco. I think you, I'm going to be close to clean slating him next year. Depending on personnel moves and changes. This week would have helped me. Yeah. But are we being. I mean, everybody. Everybody destroys the San Francisco 49. Here's a reality.

I don't know. Because, yeah, I mean, Trent Richardson came in. He's supposed to be the best back of all time. Rookie year. He has double-digit touchdowns, and he's the number one drafted guy the following year. And he fizzles out and he was gone. His rookie year was anomalous, right. Was for at least for fantasy was all touchdown. Gurley was making things happen. He was talented. But when I watched his game, he's pressing now. He doesn't look like.

It's sometimes you watch a runner and you go their offensive line is stinky, but he looks good. Every time he gets in space, he looks good. I don't see that right now with Todd Gurley. When I watch him, I think, why? Like, he doesn't deserve to get the ball 26 times. Yeah, and we talked about it. I mean, he finally broke a 20-yard run, but he hadn't done it all year long. You know, David Johnson's offensive line is stinky. I mean, there's, there's major injuries in the Cardinals' offensive line.

He makes something happen. Girl, he's not making those special plays happen right now. I don't know if he's pressing. I don't know if it's the frustrations of this season. You know, it's a good question. And I said I clean slayed him, but that would be foolish. That would be foolish because you'd be buying into the first year name and the pedigree. And you never know with these guys. So I think you need to see what happens to that offensive line in the offseason. See what happens at the quarterback position. At the coach. At the coaching. Yeah. Well, let's say so right now, the over early analysis.

If you're in the second round, would you be okay taking Todd Gurley? I probably would, but you got to put some names out there for me to decide between. Jay Ajai. That's a great one. Yeah, I'd take Gurley. I'd take Gurley. I'd take Gurley. I would take Gurley. I would take Gurley there because what Andy was all of. Next year, Todd Gurley is going to get 16 games of opportunity where he's touching the ball. Ajai next year we'll have, or at least entering the year, we'll have a...

fully healthy offensive line. And when Ajay had that healthy Miami line, they're good. All right, guys, we're moving on to the wide receiver position and we'll just start it like this. Oh, man. Are you in love with him? No. Adam Thielen is turning into everything that we had hoped Stefan Diggs could be. Well, really? I think so. That's a strong statement.

Well, he's, I just think he had a great game. 12 for 2 and 2. Diggs has been hurt. Diggs had been the PPR machine until before he got hurt. They're, they're different players. He's a, he's a taller guy. He can go up and make a tough catch, sideline catches, uh, in zone threat. Really impressive game. I mean, Mike talked about him earlier in the week. Adam Thielen was almost the greatest call of all time. You had you backed off a little bit. Yeah, it was, it was if seven Diggs is out. Yeah.

But then 7 nigs was in, and it was like, darn it! You were still hooked on. The matchup was still incredible because the Packers' DBs have been awful. I, you know, Jordy Nelson, nine for 154 and two. He's right there with Thielen on a fabulous week. He has Detroit next week. You know, we talked about the Xavier Road situation, but Jordy Nelson, he's one of my mistakes of the year because I think I pumped the brakes on him. He had two down games.

And then a good game. And then I pumped the brakes on him. And he said, well, even his good game. Nitro. At the beginning of the season, we're not the normal Jordy Nelson. There was no yardage. Yeah. But me, to his credit, he was coming off the ACL. He's a little bit older. Maybe the healing process just, you know, it took some time. And now Jordy's looking fantastic. I mean, he's making all of his normal Jordy Nelson moves. You had some of the big.

names that you hoped to perform for you. Antonio Brown, O'Dell Beckham Jr. Mike Evans, taking care of business. Huge game from Doug Baldwin. And by the way, Mike Evans coming through, thank goodness, because he hadn't been there for a couple of playoff weeks. Doug Baldwin. Doug Baldwin stole a championship from me. I will say, yeah, I'll say this about Doug Baldwin. 13-171.1. Most of the game, it was one of those Brandon Williams.

The rookie cornerback for the Arizona Cardinals were just getting torched, left, right, and center. I mean, really, right, right, right, because that's where he is. But he was just, I mean, he is terrible. And then, and then towards the end of the game, after Doug Baldwin was, you know, humiliating him, the last one was Patrick Peterson. And he got, Patrick Peterson just, he fell asleep at the wheel.

And Doug Baldwin went off 171 yards. If you're playing next week, I mean, you have a situation where Tyler Locke is no longer a part of this offense. And so Doug Baldwin, Jimmy Graham. Oh, Jimmy Graham, you turd. That's why you play Jimmy Graham. It's because not every titan gives you the chance for a big touchdown over the middle. Yeah. Samuel Watkins. Yeah, monster game, seven for 154 and one.

You had Lafell with an 80-something yard touchdown, turning on the Jets, Cameron Meredith, J.J. Nelson, who we're going to talk about soon. By the way, we got the rising stars on the show. Yeah. Momentarily. So we'll talk about those guys. Steve Smith, Mike. Mike. Mike. Yeah. Mike, Mike, Mike. Hey, I said it was okay playing it, but this was, I thought Steve Smith was fading off there, the end of a long season.

But he had himself a spectacular game. Seven for 79 and a touchdown. Oh, man. It was hard listening to that. I started Larry Fitzgerald over Steve Smith. And I did not enjoy Steve Smith constantly getting it done. You talk about a week of redemption. You know, you got that a little bit from Mike Evans, redeeming himself over the last couple weeks. You got it from Todd Gurley, getting you a touchdown. And you got it from Alan Robinson. Hello. Blake Bortles who said, hey, remember us? You know what we didn't say about Blake Bortles?

He caught a touchdown. Yes, he did. Because, of course. That's how ridiculous that game turned out to be. From Marquisley, right? Yep. Marky's Lee. Marcus Lee had a pass. Who also caught a touch. He caught and threw a touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. He's the new quarterback. We talked about Devante Parker had a good game. Shepard. Tyree Kill is a lightning bolt. Oh, man. I pumped the brakes on Tyree Kill this week because.

You know, and I said, this is dangerous. Anytime you take it, you know, a guy that could take it to the house, but I was worried against Denver. The last two weeks, Tyree Kill has zero catches. Dude. Two weeks in a row. He's a wide receiver with no catches who's torturing you because he is so lightning best. Is Tyreek Hill what the Rams thought Tave on Austin would be? Yeah. Sure. I think Tavon Austin's pretty good, though. Yeah, but if you put those two guys in pads and you've never said race.

Tyree Kill is going to torch Tayvon. We've never seen Tavon have a string of games like this like Hill has. No, you're right. You're right. I mean, Tyree Kill, Mike put it best last night. He said, when you pump the brakes on Tyree Kill, you're playing with a nuclear device. Sometimes it doesn't go off, but when it goes off, it goes off. And you don't, you don't really miss. I mean, you either miss big or you, you know. Calvin Benjamin showed up again. Tyrol Williams had a game. T. Y. Hilton.

You know, four for one or five. Some honorable missions. Standard, standard Hilton stuff. Zeus. There's your, there's your Greek gun. Oh, my goodness. You can mention it now. Yeah, Travis Kelsey. And coming into the season, I was, I was lukewarm on Kelsey because I thought that the offense would never finally accept that we need to over target Travis Kelsey. I loved him two years ago. I mean, he was.

I was driving the Zeus bus, and he was okay. But for what I was expecting, let me down. Since the Macklin injury, the team has said, well, let's see what happens if we give Travis Kelsey double-digit targets pretty much every week. And you know what he does? He comes through with monster, monster production. He carries your team. I quizzed the guys here this morning. I said, who was the leading wide receiver for?

the Kansas City Chiefs. The answer was Chris Conley. And I don't remember what was... 14 yards was your leading receiver. 14 yards. Because Travis Kelsey was doing so much work. And that touchdown, his long touchdown, I mean, there's not, there are very, very few tight ends in the league that can do something like that. Get him the ball.

I was just looking back at my UDK rankings of Kelsey. Oh, you love, to your credit, you loved Kelsey, and I just, and I was on the opposite side because I didn't believe that. He got burned by him last year, too. That Smith would, and Coach Reed would actually use him like that. Their offense, I mean, I think they have a legitimate shot. I think a couple months ago I said Kansas City was my pick for the Super Bowl. You know, they, they manufacture offense in the best way that they can.