Footie Award Nominees! + Week 18 Recap, Chopping Block - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/11

You know, the longevity there. Where are you putting Herbert in the kind of Mount Rushmore of dynasty quarterbacks? It's a great question. He's top five to me. Is he ahead of Mahomes based on? No. Even with this year beating him out and the youth? Yeah, I don't put him ahead of my homes.

going forward. He might have beat him out on the course of the season, but Mahomes missed some time, I believe. But regardless, going forward, you've got Andy Reed and Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey. I think that there's more clarity and more history of getting it done. And even though he's a little bit younger, both these guys are still very young in their careers. That is one thing that is great with Herbert, though, is his age. He's not...

He's not like, oh, he's only 26. The dude's not 2040 yet. That is crazy to be doing what he's doing in the NFL. So I certainly put him in the top five going for, but I would not take him ahead of Patrick Mahomes at the same cost. Do you agree with that, Mike? Yes, I do. I would take Mahomes. They're very close to me. I like the stability that's in Los Angeles. Obviously, there's more in Kansas City. But I would be buying my Joshua Palmer in.

Dynasty, that's for sure. You're looking at a nice week from Ryan Tannehill is when it didn't matter finally. Congratulations to no one for that one. I mean, four touchdown passes. Had he even thrown over two? I mean, this year, probably twice maybe. So that was kind of just humorous. And obviously, Julio Jones. Like they are, they are. They're peaking at the time when like,

Let's just face it, if you win the number one seed, none of the rest of this garbage that happened this year matters. I mean, if Derek Henry's back and Julio Jones is healthy and A.J. Brown is healthy. None of it matters. Just go win a Super Bowl and you forget the whole season of injuries.

Yes, we say all that, and I'll be very surprised if any of us have Tennessee as our Super Bowl put on Thursday. You know, it's hard to do, but I'm trying to get there. I am. I'm trying to get there. Okay. We'll see Thursday if you were able to get there if you were a coward. I could maybe, thank you, Jason. You know how I succumb to these very mature threats. Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson.

Got it done. You know, Russ looks so much better at the end of the year than he did during the immediate coming back from the finger injury. Running back wise, Rashad Penny is the storyline. Rashad Penny, what do you possibly do with him in a dynasty league? His fifth year option was not picked up, which I'm not blaming Seattle for that. The guy's entire career essentially to this point has been just.

riddle with injury. And then since, let me pull up the actual weeks. Do you want to know what his pace was over the last five games? I was going to say since week 14. It's got to be 2,500 yards. He leads the league in rushing since week 14. He's been unbelievable. His five game pace would be 2,281 yards on the ground with 20 rushing touchdowns. Let me tell you what. He has been unstoppable.

What complicates this situation to me, obviously the contract is a complication, right? Not having one? Yeah, not having one. And the injury history, but he did enough in this span to where he's absolutely going to get a job. You know, whether it's with Seattle or somewhere else, the potential here is so great. But then you also have a complicating factor in the fact that the regime that took Rashad Penny that would be willing to reinvest in Rashad Penny could not be back.

I mean, you have reports that Pete Carroll is going to be speaking with management, and it's going to be like the Joe Judge discussion of, what's your plan? Are we keeping you around? Like there could be there could be Russell Wilson-centered choices here in Seattle. Fair. Where it's what do you want to do, Russ? You know, Pete is, I believe, the oldest or second oldest head coach in football. So you are talking about if you take him out of the picture,

How confident can you be with the team that has Chris Carson under contract to bring back Penny? And obviously his best ceiling seems to be Seattle. But he could be a guy that goes and gets a starting job immediately. Just seems like a team would need to have other committee backs to bring in a Rashad Penny just based on the injuries. Yeah, and he is 26 years old. So when you're talking in Dynasty, like what am I doing with Penny?

If I was a truther and I held on, if I had for all this time, I'm just going to hold on to him and I'm going to see what happens. And if he's not on my team, I'm just going to admire it from afar because I'm not going to go invest what it would take for a, because this is emotional now. If you had Penny on your Dino Squad and you made it into the playoffs, there is a very good chance.

that you were able to jump on the back of Rashad Penny and that dude carried you. Yes, we did, Mike. Yeah, we certainly did. But dude, 137 yards, 135, 170, 190. Those are, those are ludicrous games. Two touchdowns, one touchdown, two touchdowns, one touchdown. So I'm not, I'm not going to try and trade high for Rashad Penny and I'm not going to, I can't imagine someone's going to pay.

the trade cost that I want. If I'm going to ship Penny away, I'm just going to hold on and enjoy the ride. So let me ask you this, because James Connor scored two more times. He's a free agent. He's a free agent as well. And I heard it on the broadcast, you know, whether I think it was Mark Schleras saying, oh, he's going to get paid a bunch of money. No, he's not. So I guess my question was, does he and does he get paid more than Rashad Penny in which of these guys do you like more for a dynasty league?

They're really not like it feels like they're vastly different, but they're basically the same age. They're both going into free agency. And James Connor has been absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, I would prefer James Connor. I would assume right now that, you know, the Vegas betting odds would be.

Yeah, the Vegas betting odds would be for these running backs to land on the teams that they just played for. And if that happened again and both were made the starters going forward, I think you'd have to side on James Connor. He did it for an entire season. He's involved in the passing game and probably a little bit more confidence in the overall offense. Antonio Gibson with a huge week against the Giants.

Josh Jacobs looked really, really good in the year. Josh Jacobs looked fantastic yesterday. I mean, it's the Chargers. And a lot of teams running back looks fantastic against the Chargers, especially when you call a timeout to get your run personnel onto the field specifically because you know they are going to run the ball. And that turns into a 10-yard gain or whatever it was. But, yeah, Jacobs has been very, very quiet, but very consistent.

helpful for fantasy. He's had like the quietest best fantasy season I can remember because he has just not let people down on a weekly basis. He's pretty much always an RB2 or better almost the entire season. As long as he's playing. Yeah, yeah, as long as definitely as long as he's playing. Like he has he's arrived on time. Like he's not he doesn't have a box of donuts in his hand. There's never like.

a coffee for the office, but he's on time. He's very punctual. I like that. Yeah, that makes sense. And yeah, and sometimes you just need a punctual person on your fantasy squad. But you might not like him as much if he never brings you nothing. So I think that happens as well. One other guy I think that needs to be brought up is Devin Singletary who had, you know, Rashad Penny certainly over the last five weeks.

has stolen the show. But Devin Singletaire has been right behind him. He's a top five running back over the same stretch, and he's taken over the job for the Buffalo Bills while they've been winning games. Does he get the job next year as their main guy? I don't replace him in the drive. I don't know, man. No, because he did this before. He has done this before.

This is what led to the great offseason of Devon Singletary Dynasty hype and excitement is we were here and then we were disappointed with the Zach Moss signing. You know, there's always the possibility he's the guy next year because they don't invest or draft or sign somebody. It is definitely in the range of outcomes. So are you in Dinow? Are you making that play? I'm selling. I'm selling high personally.

And I like the guy. I'm just, what are you doing, Jay? Are you selling high? Are you holding? I'm holding. I think that I think if the draft falls the right way for the bills, they will draft the running back and bring it in and the value will go away. But we saw that kind of with Miami this last year. I think they were doing the same thing, but the running backs were taken just ahead of them that they wanted. And then coming in, you had, you know, Gaskin with the opportunity. If you can trade them for a guaranteed opportunity, though, right? Sure.

Like you always say. You always say if you get the value. If you could trade potential for a known commodity, then if the potential hits, it doesn't matter. You got the value. One of the free agents at the wide receiver position that people are all hyped about in Dynasty, or at least optimistic, is Cedric Wilson, who ended up with two touchdowns, five for 119. Believe it or not, Kyle, just let us know. Cedric Wilson, more top 20 weeks than Amari Cooper on the year. Oh, how's that feel, Jay?

It doesn't feel good, but thankfully C.D. Lamb was my guy, not Amari Cooper. So Cedric Wilson, you know, am I wrong to doubt him landing someplace and having a relevant role and feeling like, you know, these burst weeks in Dallas is kind of the peak of what we're going to see from him? Or do you think he's going to go someplace and, you know, much like the Michael Gallup free agency, get a better opportunity? I mean, the question for me is,

I guess we were talking about same teams for the running backs, but Cedric Wilson feels like someone that could come back to Dallas for cheap. Well, I think that Michael Gallup, despite getting the unfortunate ACL tear, they're right at the end of the year. Michael Gallup is someone that projects and can be a true outside wide receiver, where Wilson's a slot guy. And especially in this year of football, it's not like,

slot wide receivers are not important. There's more of them available and having a true outside threat is difficult to find. Senator Wilson or Juju? Who'd you rather have in a dynasty? Oh my goodness. Speaking of big slot receivers. Right. Yeah, probably Juju. Okay. Probably. Probably.

All right. You had a big game from Tyler Lockett. What's new? He's really good at doing that sometimes. Against Arizona especially. And then Mike Evans with a big game, eight straight thousand yards season. Cooper Cup ends with 145, 1947, and 16. The dude was unstoppable this year. And his, if you look at his game log, it is the most gorgeous thing you've ever seen in your life. Right.

One bad game, Uno, his singular bad game on the season, he was five for 64. He was, you know what I mean? Like, that was his, that was horrific for him. His trash game. His trash game was five for 64. Five for 64. On 13 targets. I mean, he was, I mean, 191 targets. I don't know if we had seen that number, 191. Yeah, outlandishly great.

Good dude happy for him. He's a spitwad, so I love Cooper Cup. No question. Mike Williams ended up with 17 targets on those 64 pass attempts. Nine for 119. He's a free agent as well. Is he not? Yes, he is. Debo Samuel was unstoppable from beginning to end. I think he edged out Brandon Ayuk fantasy-wise this year. Yeah, because of the last week. Hold on. Do we calculate the numbers? This last week was added in, and he did. Okay. So.

I was listening when their game was going on, I was listening to the broadcast because I was driving at the time. And it was the 49ers broadcast specifically that I was listening to. And their announcers were just talking about just hand the ball to Debo because they can't tackle him. That's what they did. And it's just true. You can't tackle Debo Samuel. Does he literally just bathe in Crisco? You cannot tackle that man. You can't.