Unsolved Mysteries + TNF Preview, Trade Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

I would definitely take Buffalo to cover the spread based on what I've seen of the Chargers. I'm just saying that I'm surprised a little bit that that's not 10 and a half. Yeah, I do think Mike McDaniel is good. He couldn't have done what he did with the Dolphins with Tua, who was not a good quarterback. Don't things wear off, though? Yeah, I mean, certainly. Don't you do cool stuff? I mean, that would happen in Miami. Yes. In Miami, they'd play, they'd be the leading team. Like, Tua would lead the league in passing yards through four weeks.

and then the offense would start to get into a funk and decline. There happened multiple years. Yeah, I mean, he did lead the league in Yardage for an entire season, Tua did. That was the Tyreek debut year. Yeah, I mean, it was very nice to have Tyreek and Jalen Waddle out there, which is why I think they need Ladd McConkey. They need their number one wide receiver. If he's gone, it's really tough. We haven't really, I mean, was Mike McDaniel, was he the OC?

for the 49ers when when he was you know before the dolphins because obviously as a head coach he was in charge of all of the offense for the dolphins he was the OC in 2021 before he became the head coach of the I think Mike McDaniel is still a good is still a good offensive mind man it feels so so hard to be supportive

to the charters do they bounce back i mean you have to say if you believe that i think the offense i think the offense bounces forward certainly like i just don't know if it's enough bounces forward like is that the opposite of bouncing back don't start this i bounce back means that you but they what are they returning to they were never really great not under mcdaniel but i don't know if you're bouncing forward i think they will get better is that that's fine um

I don't know if it happens because I don't think they have enough of the pieces in place. He may not have the one particular guy he needs. You lost two big tight ends. Yeah, Tyree Kill. Yeah, I mean, Tyree Kill was a cheat code that year. Yes, for two years. Yeah. All right, let's talk Thursday night. Thursday night breakdown. The only way you can upgrade a, you know.

Buffalo, Detroit Thursday night is to get yourself some Atlanta Green Bay. Nice. Atlanta, O and two, taking on the Green Bay Packers, who are one and one. Vegas line Green Bay minus five and a half over under 43.5. It's at Lambo Field, and we have not seen many quarters of impressive offensive football from these two franchises. Zero for the Falcons. At least one good one for the Packers. Quarter? Yeah.

In two games? Yeah. Yeah. So... They had a good first half against Minnesota. I said at least one. It could be two. I'll give them two. The Falcons are the fourth team since 1978 to go their first two games without a play in the red zone. So when you look at the fantasy output of Bejan Robinson and recognize that they have run zero plays in the red zone, like it's pretty much as bad as it could be on offense and he's still going to catch a lot of checkdowns and things of that nature.

Green Bay, they've been past heavy so far. The running game has been a mixture of Marshawn Lloyd and Chris Brooks and Caleb Johnson, and that mixture has resulted in inefficiencies, I think, on the offensive side of the football. Yeah. What do we think happens with the running backs? I think you're going to see Caleb Johnson get more looks. Get more run. Because he had, he fumbled, right? Am I remembering that? Yeah, so did Marjon Lloyd.

Yeah, but Caleb got it back. They got it back and then I think Marshall and they lost it. And Lloyd had the nice receiving touchdown. I mean, Chris Brooks has been on the season. He has the snaps. Yeah, he's four for 11 last game. Yeah, he has not been good. I mean, honestly. He takes the most snaps because they trust him, I think, in some passing blocking situations. When watching and I know it's difficult for me to be the one to say it, but genuinely when watching the game, Caleb Johnson looks.

like an explosive athlete. The other two do not. We were watching the three of us together in the studio and I didn't even know who it was. Some back just got the ball and looked good for the first time in forever for the Packers. I was like, oh, dude, there you go. There's some juice. And then it was like, that was Caleb Johnson's first touch. It was like, give him the ball. I hope he is more involved. I still do believe very much that what has been proven is that this team needs Josh Jacobs.

Well, they also need a healthy Tucker craft, and his snap count jumping up from... And they need a healthy offensive line. 50-something percent to 98% is a big deal. I think the Tucker Craft breakout will be coming. They paid him the, you know, top-tier tight-in money. But last week, it was... The weather was rough, right? I mean, wasn't that another one of the weather games? Yes, it was. Against New York, and you did not get the performance. But I do think that unlocking...

You know, they lost Jaden Reed. He's going to be out. Golden and Watson, I don't, I don't feel like they have a possession receiver right now. Yeah. Like that's not how it feels. No, Watson's not a guy that's going to, yeah, Watson's not going to go give you 11 catches. Like, you need Tucker Kraft to get the offense going, and they need to start drawing up plays for him. Did you see the report, this is from Graziano, said the Packers talked about using Tucker Kraft.

One of the offensive line positions at one point during week two after four offensive linemen left Sunday's game due to injury. So, yeah, that's been a massive issue. They lost what? They put one of them on their offensive tackle on IR. Zach Baco Buelli? Oh, gosh.

I shouldn't have tried that. Should have stuck with offensive linemen. You should have gone ZBB. I'm sure that, let me throw it over the deucers because the Packer fan over there knows his name. What's his name again? Zach Bacabwelli. Okay. You got the thing. I look dumb right there. I don't think so. Block by James. I think Owl looked good.

Okay. That was really impressive. Thank you. I have no idea if it was right. Oh, you dirty dogs. You said it was such confident. You can't reveal that. That was so confident. No one would have ever known other than his mom. Wow. Now, you're probably right. Honestly, he hears that. He's like, that is how it said. Okay. It's Bakalava. We start Christian Watson. We start Matthew Golden. You starting Tucker Kraft? Yes. 98% of snaps. Are you starting any of the running backs?

No. I don't think you can. And Jordan Love, would you start, Jordan Love or like Jared Goff this week? Jared Goff. How about Tyler Shuck or Jordan Love? Shuck. What about Drake May? Oh, no. I think you might have found it. Yeah. Yoinks. Drake London, first week with a non-Cuporush quarterback. Are you just starting him? 100%. Kyle Pitts? Not.

What were we going to say about London? So with London, if you look at the games where he played with Michael Pinnock's last year, we have proof of this. He was on pace for 180 targets. That's a lot. He was the wide receiver 5. He was the wide receiver 1. He was the wide receiver 1. He was the wide receiver 1 on a week. He had massive performance with Michael Pinnock. You also had Bijan on pace for over 100 targets. So the consolidation there, the ability to get these two stars, the ball not necessarily in great.

you know, conditions. They're not going to be just destroying the field for yards after the catch because, you know, they're getting them from Michael Pinnock's. But he can get the ball to them. You have seen, we have enough evidence of great fantasy output from both Drake London and Bjean with Michael Pinnock's in there. So I believe that like London should be a start of the week because people might be very afraid, very afraid to.

play London and you should not be. He should be in every single lineup. Play Bijon, play London logout. Are you moving away from pits? I'm not necessarily moving away from him. He's, I mean, at the tight-up position or Colston Loveland with. Oh, Pitts. Oh. Oh.

I don't know how you start Loveland right now. He's got one catch and he's got the third string quarterback. Pitts, I think, is somebody that we just haven't been able. It's like London. You just haven't been able to see what the offense can do. Now, going to Lambo on Thursday night football for the first start since an injury, I wouldn't be dialing up a big game from these guys personally. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Yeah, and we'll also see what happens in pregame warmups. We'll see which quarterback decides that they don't want to play.

Oh, they decide that they're hurt. We'll take a break. We'll jump into some mailbag. All right. Let's do it. Mailbag. Presented by Paramount Plus. Okay. Yeah. The people hate it. People hate what you do there. No flourish. No flourish. You can't flourish. You can't flourish. Not on a day like today. You could have a baby flourish.

Yeah, you could have. See, proved it. If you have a question, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, click that, submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. We'll start off with a voicemail. Hey, this is Brian in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and I just have a quick one. Is Patrick Mahomes back? What are your thoughts? It looks like it, and you want to know the difference? Matt freaking neg. He's gone, like, I mean.

You know, this was, like, we talked about this with Rushie Rice and the fact that he's not being utilized the way he was the last couple years, which the way he was utilized was really good for him for fantasy football. It was not good for the Chiefs. It was not like a very good, you know, EPA play. And now all of a sudden, the Chief's offense looks much better. They've got the enemy back. It's, eh. I mean.

We all know what happened. Indies defense is not that great. We all know what happened to the chiefs, Jason. Hit the button. Oh, yeah. Oh, do I get? They enter the bones on? Yeah. Oh, just that one, huh? No, like, Ken Walker on the Chiefs, it's not inside the 20. That is the bone zone. It is the field. Yeah. Well, listen. Once he's on, he's in the zone. Here's what makes Patrick Rahomes dangerous. And if you want to argue for him being back, it's only going to get stronger as the year goes on in terms of being able to.

pick his spots when running the football and being confident on the leg. Him running is like shocking. But the thing that makes Patrick Mahomes exceptionally dangerous and this team dangerous offensively is Ken Walker. Not because of Walker's production, but because of the fact that now you have play action and you have a defense that has to account for, you know, one of the best backs in the game, a tackle breaking. You know, you have to gang tackle this guy. You have to keep people down on the line of scrimmage.

and like it's not like we're hyper impressed with any of the targets that Mahomes has. Kelsey's looked pretty good, but I'm saying like we don't have, there's not the big name out there, right? This is Taekwon Thornton. This is, you know, not players that you're individually starting. Rashi Rice has not been wildly productive, but it's because the fact he can spread the ball around and they can play action pass and pick the spots and take deep shots because they have accountability. Around the goal line.

What I've seen through two weeks is what we, like, if we think about like the last decade and what we think of Chiefs and Mahomes and the fantasy outpouring, it's like it's back. It's creative. There was a play where it was like, you know, they rolled out on play action, which you have to play the play action on Kenneth Walker. He rolls out to the right and he can run it in or there's Rushie Rice or Xavier Worthy or Travis Kelsey and two defenders.

And it's like they did a great job covering some of the options. But the designs were so good. It was just easy, so easy for Mahomes. He could have just picked whatever he wanted, whoever was open, throw the touchdown to him. I mean, he's got three touchdowns through two weeks. And I think, I think Mahomes, for fantasy purposes, when he's around the goal line, it's kind of like how Jalen Hertz has the tush push. He gets kind of free touchdowns. The tap pass.

For Mahomes and the designs around the goal line, I think he's going to have a ton of touchdowns. I believe he's back for fantasy. Well, let me ask you the same question. What, six touchdowns? Yes. You said three. Well, I meant three each week. Three, yeah, three week one, one rushing, two passing and three passing touchdowns week two. Same question as Bryce Young. From week three on Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback, what? Five. Oh, gosh. That is hyper bullish.

For a guy that's been way outside of that for the past few years. I would put him. Here's the quarterback 11 the last two years. Would you rather have Bryce Young every week or Patrick Mahomes every week? Easy Mahomes for me. I think maybe eight or nine is where I would put him. Look, not every game is going to be 47 pass attempts. And that's what we got in week two because Indianapolis kept up. Right? Yeah. I mean, Miami this week. You better get it early. Because if they're out ahead of this thing, you're not going to need to throw the ball 47 times. Well, he only threw the ball 27 times in week one.