Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 4 Breakdown, Big Trade! - Podcast for 9/25

You remember this? I don't remember that one. Yeah, Chris Carson had a fumbling issue, and I think Rashad Penny was behind him, and it was like, you're holding your breath. Because he was playing so well, but then it's, you know, Ramandre, I would say, has bent towards the surprisingly good side to start the year from what people might have expected. But the people want Trayvon Henderson out there. Yes, we do. Are they going to get it this week? I think they're going to get a lot more Trayvon Henderson this week. He was... in his own right punished early on for his whiffs in pass protection. Now, Vrable came out and said they need remandre and that they trust Remandre the most in past protection. So remandre is not going to get the bench. But Trayvion Henderson, they spent a high second round draft pick on this guy and they punished him, rightfully so, for three holding penalties and screwing up pass protection. But they want to get the ball in his hands. They want to get it in space.

over the course of the season, they will keep getting Trayvion Henderson more and more involved. Now, is this the matchup where you start him? Or, you know, I think in a lot of leagues, you're going to have to wait on starting Henderson and miss out on the first breakout week. So, I mean, the people would much rather, would you rather play Chase Brown against Denver? Or would you rather try it with Hindo? I would rather try it with Hindo. Would you rather play Judkins against Detroit after he did well last week? Judkins, yeah. And then what about Scataboo? I'd play scataboo. It does feel it's not nice to have to wait and see, but it's also a long season. And you don't want to get burnt. You know, what are your odds in this game of Ramandre having a bunch of the work? It's not zero. It's a decent chance. And honestly, the way that this game looks, you know, the Patriots are four and a half point home favorites. And the Carolina Panthers offense, their defense is not great.

I know you've got a good defensive player or two, but the whole of it is not a good defense. And their offense is very banged up. You've got Xavier Leggett, who didn't play last week. We're not sure if he's going to be back. Probably not. You would call that edition by subtraction. Well, why do you think they scored 30 points? That's fair. Judavian Sanders is out. Teteroa McMillan didn't participate in practice with a calf issue. This is part of why I like Hubbard. I think they're going to check down a lot to him. But I mean, maybe is Hunter Renfro, you know, the type of player where if you're in dire straits, you look to the waiver wire. I think so. They're going to have to throw the ball of someone. I think that that's sneaky. If McMillan were to miss, definitely. Yeah, for sure. I mean, they are limited, like you said. So you had Chuba at the start of the week. It's just, yeah, it could be a run heavy victory for New England if all these passing weapons are hurt.

That was my point. Bryce Young on the road. Troubled. Troubled on the road sometimes. I mean, he had a home game and they, it's not like he was productive last week in the 30 to nothing win. 16 receptions or 16 completions for 121 yards. But yeah, that's interesting. The Hunter Renfro sneaky start? Mm-hmm. Jason's sneaky start of the week. And leave it at that. Okay. Mike, any other thoughts here? I just, I think this game is extremely weird. I'm not forcing, I like Chuba, but it's like other than that, I'm not forcing anyone in. I mean, McMillan's an auto start, so I'm not talking about him, but the other side, I'm letting the running backs do their thing. And the Patriots wide receivers, they got to figure this thing out. Like I said, get Kyle Williams on the field. What are you doing? These other guys are not, they're not the future. They're not getting it done. Let the rook unleash him.

That is, I mean, that is a little bit of the problem with Vrable. Yeah. Or, you know, at least in our perspective, because I, the reason Trayvon has. To his own demise. To his own demise, he is a really, you're talking about Mike Vrable deferring to Kyle Williams in the face of Stefan Diggs. That's a hard thing to do. And that's, he's not doing it running back and he's not doing it wide receiver so far. And that bugs me. Drake May is he still a viable fantasy starter? Yeah. Yeah, this week the matchup is pretty good. He's at home. He's favored. The work that Ramandre and Trevion are doing, a lot of it's been through the air. So I think Drake Mays fine. He scrambles a lot. Second most scrambles in the NFL right now. He's probably a top 10 play. All right, guys. The Chargers at 3 and 0 go to New York to take on Jackson Dart and the New York Giants, who are 0 and 3. Chargers 6 point road favorites. The overrunners 43 and a half.

This game, it does hit me a little weird. We're going to get to see Jackson Dart out there, Cam Scataboo, Malik neighbors. A lot of exciting down-the-line players for New York getting opportunities right now. They're only at 18.8 implied point total. Herbert is entering the MVP conversation at this point. A month ago, he was plus 2,000 to win MVP. Then he was plus 1,500 after Brazil. Now he's plus 500. He's just behind. Like he's the guy behind Lamar and Allen. That's a big junk. So the, I mean, that one throw when he bent the bullet behind. I think Nick Benito. It was helpful. It's also helpful when you are three and oh, and you've got, you know, you've got a lot of winnable games coming up on your schedule. I'm, I'm really, I'm struggling with this. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, he's got that hits. No. No. I mean, okay. It's six points.

Yeah. Oh, Andy's almost upset of the week. I feel like you're almost upset with yourself. I am. I am. That was not one I wanted to do. He lets it come to. The button pushed itself. You think I want a rookie in his first week? I think it might work. Jason talked about this. Sometimes rookies in that debut game, no tape. The fact he's got the mobility. I think he's going to execute a quick hitting offense. I think he's going to use his legs. And look, the line at six points for the chargers. I think the Giants are going to be more competitive than people are expecting. And I hate that I'm saying it out loud. I mean, I hate that you're saying it out loud too. Al Borland, what did you just say? Sorry, I was making a bet. I said, I can't believe I have to go make this bet now. Yeah, nobody like Kyle covered his eyes. I hope you're right.

I find myself just really rooting for the Giants and Jackson Dart. I want it to be a thing. I was just curious. We do our weekly picks. And I was like, I wonder which side I took on that. I didn't remember. I was with you here. Oh, that's not good for me. Yeah, I know. Usually it's not good for me. It's much better when you think I'm a complete baboon. Yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, we'll see what happens. That's not the story of this game, though. There are so many unknowns. I mean, the story of the game is Jackson Dart, but he affects the two big assets of Cam Scataboo and Malik neighbors. Yeah, your eyes are on the checkdowns, right? Yeah, I mean, that's really important. Russell Wilson, he snaps the ball, and he looks about 80 yards down the field, and then he looks about 60 yards down the field, and then he checks it down.

at this stage in his career and that was... Or throws it out of the end zone. Well, sure. Well, that's because he was too close. He was still looking 60 yards down the field, Mike, but it was all fans. There was a mirage. So look, we're starting Cam Scadaboo, right? Is that easy officially a start? I think he is. I think, yes, you can start Cam Scatterboo because you expect his workload in the passing game to still be there. Like, even if it's not a massive checkdown, he's not getting eight targets. You still think he's going to get four checkdowns, maybe two, four total targets, two that were improvved and a couple of screen passes designed to him. He's looked really good. This isn't a great matchup, and we are curious about the utilization in the receiving game. So he's not a must start. Benson, tonight, Scataboo, at home on Sunday.

Oh, man. I feel like that's probably a really big question, actually. That probably is. I'm going to go Scataboo because I am actually more, even though there's questions with Dart, I'm still more optimistic about Cam Scataboo's receiving work than I am about Benson's receiving work. Well, Herbert's a lock, right? We're playing Justin Herbert every week. Yeah. Malik Neighbors as well. You play him. You don't want to miss out on the great and the potential. Malik Neighbors is too good. Beyond that, though, I think those are your, I mean, scataboo and neighbors on the giant side. Right now, Quentin Johnston has led the team in receiving yards for three consecutive weeks. So to start the year, and it's not like, oh, I mean, Quentin Johnston at one point in time, you're like, oh, he's just a deep threat. Well, he has 10 targets. He's on pace for 136 targets. He was the 21st pick in the NFL draft. And he is looking really great right now while he doesn't have to be.

the centerpiece of the defense. The focal point. You want some good news for Marvin Harrison Jr. Oh, baby. Wait. Look at Q. This dude was the laughing stock. He was his career. We were all done. He is the most physically gifted of the three receivers they have. And I can tell you from the tape, this is not the same player you saw the first year or the second year. He's actually, you know, it's a credit to Harbaugh. He instills confidence in players. And I think you're seeing more effort and athleticism from Quentin Johnston. Mark. Not just going up. I don't know if we can do that. Not just going up into the air, but actually in between the play, running back to the, I mean, it's been really impressive. Yeah, I don't see how you can bench Quentin Johnston. You have to play all three guys, don't you? Yes, I think all three are. Yeah, it's, it's silly. Here we are. I don't know. I don't think you're always going to be happy with all three guys, but you still.

pretty much need to start them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's wild because Ladd is the, Ladd is a start and is also the least, like for me on the, like Quentin has to be in there and Keenan has to be in there. Yeah. And it's like Ladd, I probably has to be in there, but you may have an option there that people have been, I mean, don't, don't go start and Trey Tucker over Ladd is what we're saying, right? Right. Correct. The Philadelphia Eagles are three and O and they travel to take on the also undefeated. Tampa Bay Buccaneers who were sitting at three and all the Vegas line Philly minus three and a half the over under is 43 and a half the Tampa Bay tugboats baby tugboats oh yeah that's the nickname of their their tugboat the guy that they signed to stop the to stop the push okay needed they needed that context but yeah I'm in yeah I'm in now that because of like the professional wrestler they're just gonna put a 460 pound man in there to try to stop the tush push

I love it. I love it so much. I really hope. I don't know for sure. Right now he's on the practice squad. I don't know that they're actually going to bring him up and do this, but they sign him this week. And there is one reason to put this man on the NFL field. Like, he is not healthy enough. Offensive side of the push too. Sure. Yeah. Give him the ball. Yeah. He might not even play, though, right? He might not, but Desmond Watson, 450,000 pounds. I don't know. Wow. So they're both 2-0. These teams are 2-0. I feel like the injury to Mike Evans makes this game feel a little bit shakier. But Chris Godwin, practiced in full. Emeka Abuka has been a revelation. Sterling Shepard been heavily involved. Kate Otten can be missed her necessary, and it's at home. This game being at home in Tampa makes it a much more exciting game. It's not a high over-under. But how competitive do you think this is going to be? I mean, I feel like it's not going to be a blowout. I don't think it'll be a blowout.

either. I think that's a big. I think the bucks can hang. Yeah, I mean, it's it's tough sledding, but the nice thing is you don't have that many options. Um, Sterling Shepard could PPR his way to a decent to, yeah, to a, yeah, an emergency start, but we've talked about a bunch of other people that I would probably play over him. Um, so you, you probably don't need to go that low. Emeka, there's no way you're not going to play him. Right. And since he's all alone, he should be okay. Um, I, I think Godwin's going to play. Yeah, Godwin should be out there. I think he'll play limited snaps. Full practice on Wednesday. The matchup plus I'm sure we'll get some, you know, hey, Sunday morning, Glazer is going to be like, hey, Godwin's going to play, but he's going to be on limited snaps. So I'm not pushing him into my lineup just yet. The biggest question on the buck's side is Baker. Even if he's got Godwin there, tough matchup, no Mike Evans. Don't doubt him.

Don't doubt the dog at home. Really? Because I... Yeah, because I mean, who... Let me give you two options. Yeah, go for it. Maybe I'm wrong. Gino Smith, who was my streaming Canada at home against Chicago, high over under, easy matchup. I thought Chicago's defense looked great last week. I'm going to take Baker. What about Daniel Jones? against the Rams, highest over under on the week. Rams are a good defense too. I mean, I'm fine going either one there. That's a coin flip to me. And the last name I'll throw out. I mean, he has to pass concussion protocol, but Justin Fields. That's the Monday game? Yeah. I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't feel like Baker is going to basement perform for you. I don't think you're getting seven points from him. He's going to get two touchdowns in this game. He'll find a way to do it. All right.

I don't know. Your ceiling might be better with Fields. It might be better with Daniel Jones. I can get on board with that. Even Gino. What if I told you? So far, the game log for Baker Mayfield. Touchdowns, week one, three. Touchdowns in week two. Two. Don't see it. Touchdown in week three. One. So then. You think we got zero coming? If these trends continue, I mean, the ticker might just start over. He's, okay. But this is good analysis. Three or zero. First of all, one of the things you guys were worried about. at the beginning of the year was that the rushing totals wouldn't be there for Baker. He's on pace for almost 700 rushing yards. So look, to put up a top 10 week at quarterback with one touchdown, dog. He's such a dog, man. This guy is so amazing. I saw an interview with Mike. I'm not too frightened at home, man. I'm just not. I saw an interview with Mike Allstat. And he was asked, like, if someone were to call up and say, you know, take your number, because his number's retired, if you could give your.

number to any player like you'll allow any player to actually use your number he's like baker oh yeah is just like he i mean baker is dude how do you not love that guy you watch him play and that guy love laser mayfield that dude loves football yeah he loves competing He loves talking trash. He loves it so much that it makes his pain stop hurting. It's, it's amazing. Jalen Hertz, play him, Sequin, play him, A.J. Brown and Devante Smith, are we? I mean, you probably play him. You hope that Baker can get it done, can throw two touchdowns and that you have some second half action here. All right, that was fantasy forecast presented by prize picks. Check out max discounts on the app now like Jalen Hertz at more than 0.5 passing yards. Oh, I'll take them more. For the September 28th game.

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