In certain weeks. Yeah, definitely PPR because he's not a downfield touchdown type of guy. All right, I want to talk about the Patriots and the Lions matchup. And look, they immediately after this game was completed, they just basically, they took the first quarter, they put it on DVD and they shipped it out to every high school in the nation to just teach what a perfect offense looks like. This is a clinic. The Patriots basically just dissected and destroyed the Lions to the point that the Lions announcer started yelling into his microphone.
Fantasy Football 2017 - Confusing Players, Andy’s Apology, Pre. Week 3
Fantasy Football 2017 - Confusing Players, Andy’s Apology, Pre. Week 3
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132 passagesjust lost his mind. I mean, we know what happened in this game. Julian Edelman went down, and to Mike's credit, maybe should have been included in the apology earlier. Danny Amandola slid right into that spot in the game, live action. Now, they may scheme it differently, but Amandola did come in. He was targeted in the same way that Julian Edelman was, and he made a couple of great catches. Takeaways from this game, I am firmly convinced that I don't.
want to mess with the running backs. I will add a certain value, but Dionne Lewis. What's the value for Gillisley for you right now? Well, he's going in the fifth. The value for me is the seventh. Okay. So I'm not getting him. I'm not going to get him. No, you might. I've seen him fall. I mean, he's, when you've got an average draft position with a guy like Gillisley, sometimes he'll go in the third, sometimes he'll go in the seventh. Dionne Lewis had all the first team snaps. I mean, this was all, it was just handed to Dionne Lewis to start this game. James White then had like one carry. And then Gillisley's first carry was.
on the goal line. It was a two yards away. He ran that in, converted. Then they ended up getting a penalty on the extra point, so he had a chance from the one, got the extra point, or the two point conversion in. And Gillesley looked fine. Lewis looked fine. The running backs, it's going to be a rotational thing there. A weird observation that I made, you know, Gillesley, I'm a little worried about the ball, being able to protect the ball. The way he runs.
With that ball wide out and open all the time, it just, I was just cringing to think what Bill Belichick's going to do. Oh, he'd be done. If he fumbles, he's on the bench. The other takeaway, you guys didn't, I'm sure you didn't know this. Gronk is unstoppable. I mean, he's absolutely unstoppable. A couple of incredible catches, couple of goal line pass interference calls, and Brady looked great. So look, we're not telling you anything new and special about this offense other than, hey, let's fill in for Edelman. The Patriots are good.
And then I've already talked about this. Look, I came away from the lion's side of the ball. They're often sputtered and there were turnovers to start this game. But once they got into an actual, you know, halfway through the second quarter and Stafford had the opportunity to lead some drives, Matthew Stafford's a really, really good quarterback. He made a lot of plays in the pocket to evade pressure that impressed me. I wasn't super impressed with the offensive line. But Abdullah is the guy. I mean, it was pure Abdullah.
Abdullah lined up wide, like outside for routes on several plays, like not even in the slot, just literally lining up wide, having him run a slant and beat that corner inside. And then Golden Tate was heavily involved as well. I think this was a step-back game for Goladay. I think, you know, he had a couple of targets, but he caused an interception on a play. That doesn't sound smooth. No, not smooth routes in this one. Hit a bad note. And then Marvin Jones, the stat line, again, a situation where the stat line didn't match.
The production. Four for 62 and a touchdown. Yeah. And that was with missing like a 40-yard incredible toe tap in-traffic bomb that he caught. And they basically just ruled that it was like slightly bubbling in his hands. But it was a great play. He came down with it. So I'm very impressed with him as a sleeper. Those are my takeaways from that matchup. All right. I'm going to jump in here with the Tex and the Saints. And honestly, there's not very much to take away from this game.
The number one takeaway I have in this, the Saints defense may be good. So beware of that. The days of the Saints shootouts because their defense is so porous, those could be gone. I'm just, I'm not, this is not a. Give us some low odds. Sure. Yeah, but there is turnover every year. Sure. I'm just throwing it out there that, that.
This is something to pay attention to. They focused on it. Let me ask you this. Would you then, because of how people view the defense, you know, people looking at that week one or two, week three matchup and they think, okay. Target against the Saints. Would you be avoiding that as a gimmy? I don't remember who they play week one, but I'm serious. I think it's possible that their defense is going to be good. And really, the only other takeaway, both Ingram and Peterson played. Everyone was splitting reps. Ingram did start.
The only real takeaway from this game for me is you need to draft Ted Ginn. He's going to be involved. He looks fantastic. They started the game with a jet sweep with him, and it was really like a 60-yard run, but it ended up losing a huge chunk of it from, I think Ingram got called for blocking the back or something, but he's going to be involved. Yeah. And he's going to be sneaky. He's going to score long touchdown. So just.
Andy had labeled him as his sleeper on Monday, and I am confirming that you need to draft. You have to. He's such a perfect end of round. End of draft deck, too. I mean, guy that can blow up in the first few weeks, plus his draft position right now, still the 12th round, which is madness. Yeah, that's insane. I would take him in the 10th. Absolutely. He's worth that. All right, let's talk the Raiders and the Cowboys. You had nothing from the Houston side of the ball, Mike. There's really nothing. I mean...
Bruce Ellington continues to look great, but there's just, it was, it was, you didn't have strong or Hopkins on the field, did you? No, and it's just, it's, um, like, nothing happened. Like, I mean, it was just, it was a defensive battle. Oh, goodness. Mike, how was Lamar Miller? He was okay. He was okay. He's saving it. He's saving it. He's saving it up for the regular season. He's okay. And I mean, it was low scoring game, but the final score was zero to 13.
And Saints won the game. But I'm telling you, like, the entire first half, it was just like defensive. Yeah, it was a defensive struggling. What is, what is happening? I think you're going to see that a lot with the Texans. A defensive struggle. Yeah, just a defensive battle with the other team, whoever they play. I mean, keep in mind, whoever they play, that defense might look good, just like the Saints defense did. I don't know if this offense is. Okay. I just, I'm just, I'm on note. I'm on tape.
Saying these things. Sure, sure. The Raiders and the Cowboys, you had a really bad, you know, I would say overall a bad, at least first drive, maybe a bad game for Derek Carr. He was, you know, he missed some throws and didn't look very sharp. The guy that impressed me the most was actually. Carr's final stateline was pretty good, but you're saying it just didn't look as good as it was. Exactly. Well.
Honestly, the wide receivers, man, they all looked good. Mari Cooper was good. He just overthrew. Cooper had a great game. He overthrew some guys where even when they caught the ball, they could have had big plays, but they had to jump and stop and get it. So, yeah, the stat line would look all right. Cordarelle Patterson is a name we need to at least pay somewhat attention to now for the waivers. Because if he shows in regular season like he's doing now, he was incredibly involved. I mean, he was as.
He was involved in, you know, every play. He was on the field almost 100% of the time for the first offense. And he's returning kicks. Four for 30 with a touchdown. Yeah, four for 30 with a touchdown. And he looked. I don't know. He looked like a wide receiver, which is, you know, great because he really hasn't. That's one of the top things you want to do as a wide receiver. Exactly. So what about rankings takeaways from either side of the ball in this matchup? Rankings takeaways.
Marshawn Lynch, his usage in the very beginning scared me a little bit. They were quick to bring in, and I realized maybe it's just preseason, but with all their talk about kind of resting him, not making sure they overwork him, DeAndre Washington looked good, Jalen Richard had some great plays, and they were utilizing all three backs throughout the time. However, when it was any kind of passing down, it wasn't Marchion in there. So if Marciaun Lynch is, you know, south of 200 carries at the end of the season,
I'm not going to be shocked, so maybe where he's going right now might be a little bit high. Other side of the ball, ranking takeaway. Man, alive. Dak has been using the tight end like crazy this preseason, and I don't think that's going to change. That's their scheme. That's their system. Jason Witten is 35 years old, but nobody has told him that. He looked unbelievable. The offense was Dak Prescott and Jason Witton. Six for 74. Is that just the Raiders, though? I mean, last year,
despite Dax's love of the tight-in, only three games the entire season that Jason Witton was in double-digit fantasy points. I mean, only three games. Well, that's what I love about. And one was Cleveland, so that doesn't even kill. Yes, exactly. One of the things I love about Dak Prescott is he. We're taking those away. All games against Cleveland no longer count. Is that he takes the easy passes that the defenses give him. And you bring it up. I mean, it could just be the fact that that's what Oakland wasn't covering.
and he's been their policy over and over and over. Ignore the tight end. Yeah. All right. What do we have matchups left, Mike? Do we have anything else? My final one is the Bengals in Washington. Okay. You want me to jump in there? Sure. All right, Bengals of Washington. Hey, guys, AJ Green is an excellent wide receiver. Jeremy Hill once. That was literally a takeaway. Breaking news. But it's just, it's a reminder. When a guy's coming back from an injury, he looks great this preseason.
He's a top tier. He's an elite wide receiver. Treat him as such for fantasy purposes. Jeremy Hill once again was the primary ball carrier, got the goal line carry. I know he left the game with an ankle injury, so monitor that. And here's the thing. Joe Mixon fumbled in exchange. Ooh.
When that happened, it was Joe Bernard for the rest of the half. Now, to Marvin Lewis's credit, maybe he's learned from his ridiculousness in the past. Second half, they went back to Joe Mixing. They went heavy to see what Joe Mixing can do. And he's, he's, he's really, really good. He's way better than the other running backs on that team. But does that matter? I think it does. I mean, I just feel like in today's NFL, you need to win.
Yeah, exactly, but Marvin Lewis does not play today's NFL. But I'll just weigh in myself and we'll see if I'm right. But I think are you going to pay the third round draft cap. No, I'm not going to pay it. That's what you have to do to draft mixing. But I do think, I think three or four games is all it's going. Okay. And Washington once again looked really out of sync to start the game. They eventually got things going and read plate. They eventually got it going. But they got it going.
Shocker, I mean, on the back of Robert Kelly. He had a great game. He was the, once he started getting loose and getting some junk plays, that's when the offense finally started to work. Terrell Pryor was really up and down, had a, had a terrible drop, followed it up with a great catch surrounded by three guys. So it's, I have, I'm not, this is not red alert for Washington, but it could take them some time to, to get it going. Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense. So I believe we have one matchup left. Is that correct? That's right. The Bears and the Titans. You've got Marcus Mariotta. You've reviewed him for two weeks in a row. I sure have. And let me tell you something. Two weeks ago, he looked great. This last week he looked horrifically bad. Did he really? Oh, my goodness. You know, I apologize to Derek Carr for saying you overthrew guys. Even the announcers were like, man, he is really over. It was always an overthrow. Always. I mean, here's what happened.
Marcus Marriota. And now I, ladies will do that. This is just an allegation. Okay. I have no evidence. But I think. It's just an allegation. It's just an allegation. I think Marks Marrota might have. Oh. Jesus Lord. Oh. With Judge Giamatti. The plaintiff. Oh, you were going in. I'm sorry. All right. The plaintiff Jason Moore says that Marcus Marietta.
took a shot of steroids in his right arm. Oh, no. Just in the right arm. And it didn't go anywhere but the right arm. That arm was so powerful and strong that he could not stop throwing the ball 20 yards over people. He had a full Rick and Morty situation. All right. You know, look, we've got enough evidence of Marcus Mario to being a good quarterback, being an accurate quarterback, where I don't worry about those things. He just had an off game. You don't want to know who looked great. I bet I know the answer to that. Is it Richard Matthews? He looked good. Richard Matthews looked involved.
and he's looked great this entire preseason, and I have to take notice at this point. Tewan Taylor, I believe is a great player. There was a beat reporter. I believe he was on Mike Clay Show, and this is months ago. And this beat reporter came on and said, Tewan Taylor will be the leading rookie receiver on this team. And that was with, that was, you know, before they knew that, you know, come week one, you're not even sure if you've got Corey Davis.
Tewan Taylor is, I mean, there's just no other way to say it other than he's really good. He caught difficult passes in traffic. This isn't an Atjah Sharp situation? No, sure. I mean, maybe he flashes bright and goes away. There's a lot of mouths to feed there, you know, right now this year. But he has done it the entire camp.
