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NFL Coaching Changes & Fantasy Impact, Just Sayin’ - Fantasy Football Podcast

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didn't necessarily commit himself to it. Yeah, him and Dave Gettelman can hold real great conversations about analytics. We do a lot of that stuff.

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There was a lot made this offseason when Mike McCarthy was making the rounds, and I have no doubt had a very, very good publicist behind him, sending him places, and they made the kind of documentary about how he's rebranding and rebuilding himself up. But there was a lot made about the changes, the team that he was assembling, the analytics department that he was putting together.

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You know, all of this came to fruition. So there is reason for excitement. We shouldn't just disparage to say it's completely not true. But the reason the jokes come is because, you know, he also said he went and watched every single game. That's what I'm talking about. And then when he's being interviewed right next to Jerry Jones after at the press conference where he was hired as the head coach. And they're saying, what did you see when you were watching every snap? And he flat out goes, oh, I didn't watch every snap. I was just telling him that.

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You know, because I want to look good or something like that. I mean, it's like, what? I already got your money. The decision here that matters to fantasy owners was the decision to keep Kellynne Moore. Which is a great decision. And Kellynne Moore last year, the Cowboys ranked sixth in the NFL in points per game, first and total yards. If Zeke, Dak, Amari, that crew is back together with Kellan Moore.

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I don't think we have a lot to fear if you just replaced the figurehead Jason Garrett with the figurehead Mike McCarthy. And this is Mike McCarthy's chance. I mean, Aaron Rogers got to have kind of the first punch thrown in the fight of last year of the Packers. They made it into the playoffs. They were a weird team. Like, were the, were a great record. Were they good? They had a great record. Yeah, when loss wise, they were very good. Yeah. But anyway, so.

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Aaron Rogers, it's clear that he thinks that the success of the team was in the McCarthy era was more to do with Aaron Rogers. McCarthy, I'm sure, believes it's on him. So let's see what he can do with Dallas. And he's coming into a very, very good situation. If McCarthy comes in here to a team last year that had the second most passing yards, the fifth most passing touchdowns, I mean, he had a top 10 offense in passing and rushing. If he comes in and screws it up,

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then that will be horrifically bad for his legacy. And, you know, it's hard to separate because you can't say, you can't give all the credit to Aaron Rogers and all of the blame to Mike McCarthy when they were together. When they were together, they're very good. Right. They had good offense. They had good passing numbers. Towards the end when it all fell apart. Yeah. So I think there's reason for optimism, but Andy's right. This is one of those situations where, you know, especially if Amari Cooper comes back.

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I don't expect a ton of change here, keeping the same offensive coordinator, the same group together. That means the same system for the most part. I, you know, I don't have any fears here about the Cowboys. I'm excited about the Cowboys offense. I'd love to have Zach, Zeke and Dak. If you combine them, though, it is that. It does create Super Zach. Yeah, Zach Elliott. But I would love to have those guys, love to have Gallup, love to have Cooper.

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personally, if he's on the Cowboys. So I'm very positive towards the Cowboys fantasy output next year. All right, let's stay in the NFC East, the Giants. New head coach, new offensive coordinator, and a new judge to compete with Judge Giamati. We've got judge, I mean, Brooks, you've got to be feeling uncomfortable right now. It's the year of the judge, Mary. Because you were on your, you know, what does the judge sit on? A pedestal. What does he sit on up there? Throne of lies.

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I mean, he's, what is the official term? A bench? Yeah, yeah, I think the bench. May I approach the bench? Is that what they say? That's fair. That's the thing they say. And the lawyer shows? Yeah, that's right. And which is, those are all documentaries. And you've been alone as Judge Diomati on your perch, haughty as can be. Very arrogant. And here comes Joe Judge, head coach of the Giants. And not only that.

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But you've got Judge Judy in the draft. Oh, yeah. Jerry Judy, wide receiver extraordinaire. So this is, you've got to be feeling threatened, uncomfortable. Oh, I'm extremely threatened. Yeah. So to get, yeah. Well, that couldn't set it better. So to get back to the important stuff, I have confirmed that the judge generally sits behind a raised desk known as the bench. That's right.

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We did it. We are so smart. But isn't the actual Judge Judy retiring? That's true. Oh, so that's a big one. That's a big one. That's a pivot. That's a pivot. She's becoming a wide receiver in the NFL. That's accurate. Okay. Getting into the Giants, Joe Judge, the new head coach, replacing Pat Schumer. He was the wide receiver and special teams coach for the Patriots in 2019. He's got some of that Belichick Cologne dripping. Yeah. Many have.

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tried with the Belichick Cologne. And it's really more like an old man musk where you're like it. It doesn't fit everybody. No. Yeah, because if the younger guy goes out with the old man musk, that's not really the like is, is that cool water? I smell like my dad. You know, if you smell like cognac and cigars. That's right. If you look at those two guys, Sean McVeigh and Bill Belichick, one of them, you just assume smells real good. And the other you're like,

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I'm going to guess he doesn't smell. Oh, come on. I'm just, look, I'm just saying that. But the reality is, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, look, I'm just saying that. Look, I'm just saying that. That's the defense. You get to say whatever you want. I said, no offense. And then he said, look, no, hold on. Hold your horses. Look, I'm just saying that. Yeah. Yeah, we know. So, um, I didn't know that was a real defense that I could use. You can use it in a court of law. Yeah.

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Historically, the coaching tree from Bill Belichick has been a fail pile. There are a handful of coaches that have succeeded for a while. I mean, would you consider Romeo Cornell to be a guy who succeeded for a while? More success than failure, but not always as a head coach, obviously, just as a coordinator. Bill O'Brien, I would say he's the biggest success, right? Yeah, Bill O'Brien's a success. Matt Patricia hasn't been able to do it yet.

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But there are like 50 guys who have been hired from his staff. Vrable. Vrable is a huge success. He is the biggest success now already. But there are so many people that have come from that system and failed. And it's so funny. I was researching this and I'm looking up.

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reading on why they hired him. And if you remember back to the time that they hired him, it looked like they were going to get Jaw Rule. It looked for sure like that was going to happen. And then the Carolina Panthers came and offered this really long contract. Dave Gediman's not hip enough for Jaw Rule. And then like immediately they like almost before Jaw Rule was announced as the head coach for the Carolina Panthers, they're like, Joe Judge is ours.

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Like we, Joe Judge is our head coach. Right. And when I was reading these quotes, here's a quote from the Giants co-owner John Mara about hiring him. And he said, well, you know, we have conversations around the office about bright young coaches around the league and judge's name came up a few times. Good enough for me? Yeah, well, here's the thing. So he goes on and he says again, when I saw that he left Alabama, he eventually ended up on the New England staff.

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I said, wait a second, there has to be something to this guy if he's from Alabama. That makes sense. Because you got Nick Sabin comes from the Belichick tree. Exactly. And Bill Belichick. But I guess it just brings fear to me that like, wait, is that the reason? This is a hire by association. Right. Versus a hire by what he's. Well, but I mean, if you're associated with those two guys, you are being successful.

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Sabin and Belichick aren't going to have you around if you're... Isn't Adam Gays through the Sabin tree in some capacity? I don't remember that. Well, it's a long tree to trace down. But nevertheless, Joe Judge is the new head coach. We have no way to know his tendencies. He was a special teams coach for the Patriots and wide receiver coach this last year in 2019 for the Patriots.

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He doesn't have a history of calling plays or running offenses. Now, there is a long... That's why you brought in Jason Garrett, baby. There's a long history of Jason Garrett who was hired. Oh, yeah. And it doesn't that seem... Garrett's had many, many successful seasons statistically. As an offense, he has the ability, at least had the ability, kind of like McCarthy, to put up some big seasons as a coordinator. It's just a matter of, you know, he feels like such a retread situation. And it's going to feel, I'm assuming to you, Judge,

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So strange to see him after what? Twelve years in Dallas to be on the other side? Longer than that? I'll be happy to see him clapping over there on that sideline. Oh, wow. Hopefully he's not clapping. Otherwise, maybe you're on the wrong end of it. He'll be clapping no matter what. He claps when they lose. Yeah, he always claps. Interception. Okay, we're clapping. Yep. Yeah, so, you know, prospects for these players. I mean, obviously you've got a guy who's been using Zeke.

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in a great wave for fantasy, who now has Sequin. Right. So I don't think there's any fears there. The real question is, can he develop Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones into something special. And, you know, we've never, we've never, ever talked about giving credit at all to the, you know, emergence of Dak Prescott. Is there something, does Jason Garrett deserve some credit for taking a fair point? I think so.

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I think he does. And he's taken so much flack in the media of the past few years. But, you know, the majority of the time that he was either the offensive coordinator or the head coach for Dallas, he was a top half team in terms of offensive points per game. I mean, last year they were six. And yeah, you give a lot of the credit to Kellyn Moore. But, you know, he was a part of that offense. And years previously, he had had a lot of success. So it's pretty wild. Tony Romo was undrafted. Am I remembering that correctly? I thought he was like a sixth round.

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He's either undrafted or very late. But the fact that Jason Garrett had... He's either drafted or undrafted. He's very late or undrafted. He was... He was an undrafted free agent. Okay. Yeah, I told you. I appreciate... Just saying that. I'm just saying. I just said it. But the success he had with an undrafted quarterback and then, and Dak, who was a fourth round pick, if I remember, I'm pulling everything from the time I had here, but that's pretty amazing.

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To have that team, and he didn't have a top 10 draft pick at the quarterback position. Yeah. Very interesting. And they're a team that I think, you know, it's going to come with the development of Daniel Jones, and that offense has the ability to move. We saw it at times last year. This wasn't consistent. I think there should be some optimism there, but we don't know a lot about what Joe Judge is going to do there. We know about Jason Garrett. And we get to talk about another NFC East team. The Washington Redskins. Ron Rivera, replacing Jay Gruden.

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brings in a new offensive coordinator, Scott Turner. How do you feel about this move? I mean, I know that we are Ron Rivera fans in concept, or at least Jason and I are pretty big fans of him as the head coach of this team, but how do you feel about this move? Yeah, I mean, I guess I'll echo because I believe Mike has a difference of opinion on what we believe in Rivera. I think Rivera is a very good head coach.

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you know, as far as, you know, a leader, a CEO in that role. Some of these head coaches like Cliff Kingsbury, they come in, they basically run half the team. But Ron Rivera is a guy that is respected by all of his teammates, and I think he's a strong, stable force, which a team that is not a very well-run organization like the Redskins could use. This is what, you know, if I was the Browns, I'm trying to get my team to.

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to the middle. You know, like I'm not, you know, that's kind of where I want to get. And Ron Rivera could get you there. Offensively, you've got Scott Turner coming over who was with him in Carolina in 2019. In Carolina. This is really going to, you know, I think come down to Haskins more than the coaching. Right. And a lot of these, we've looked back, we've talked for years and years and years about.

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the success of some of these coordinators and the failures of some of these coordinators. And if you really look at who their quarterback was, you can find a trend as to whether they were successful or not based on did they have a good one. And, you know, that's that's up to, you know, Haskins. Yeah. Go ahead, Mike. I just, Rivera, I mean, he's too vanilla for you.

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