aged out either. He's not an old man. So to me, it's like get a piece of the Cowboys offense, get a piece of the Bengals offense, especially when those two running backs have no competition on the depth track. He had eight total touchdowns inside the five for the previous four years. Last year he had 10. Do you guys have big news. J.K. Dobbins is back out on the field in pads.
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170 passagesThat's right, babe, I told you. No news. Pretty remarkable. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. Don't worry about it at all. I won't. But you should. Breeze Hall, I think Jane Blue is worth talking about because he was an absolute, he was nothing last year. There was what the Gucci, Gucci cleat gate where the rookie showed up and thought he was hot stuff and seemed like from that moment on.
The team had to humble him. But the news on Blue is much, much better this year. So I'm just curious if you guys have any concerns for coming in. None. I just want to yawn so much through what you're saying. I just want to like, I don't. I don't care at all. I couldn't care less. Yeah. And it's not a, it's just those guys are just ancillary.
I need a blow. Is it Mova or blue? When you hear all the reports. Malik Davis is still there too. When you hear the reports of like, I had to learn a big lesson rookie year and I've learned it. Like that's okay, great. Good for you. Here's what Javante did. Had a great season. They paid him more money. Yeah. I mean, he's the guy. I mean, if you want to talk like, okay, an injury happens to Javante.
Is it Jaden Blue? But we're not even sure it's Jaden Blue. I have zero worries that someone's going to take a chunk of work while Javante is healthy away from Javonte. Here is a player that I am the highest of the three of us by a lot and I'm just really close to planting my flag on. Breece Hall at 17. I got him at 13. Jason at 17. Mike at 20. Mike a little bit behind ADP. Jason right there. I'm ahead. Look, he got the bag this off season, three year extension, guaranteed money.
1,400 yards from scrimmage in an offense last year that was an utter embarrassment. But one of my favorite things I've read this offseason is just the fact that the drumbeat has been, one, I like the way the offensive line is trending. Two, they paid him the money. We don't have this cloud over the head of Breece where it's like they want them out of town.
And then they've talked about featuring him more. They've literally, like, oh, is Braylon Allen? Imagine. You know, but they've literally talked about featuring Brees Hall, which they've kind of done against their will it feels like at times. I think he is. I love the pick of yours of liking Brees this year. I think he's going to be very involved. He's great as a pass catcher. We saw Gentie last year propped up by Gino just from the dink and dunks, the little drop-offs.
That's Brees, one of his best parts of his game, is taking those little dump-offs. And he's going to play Friday. He's still explosive. I mean, he has big plays. All the Jets starters playing Friday. Fourth and explosive rush rate, Brees Hall, 10th and forced miss tackle rate. 36% of his carries five plus yards. They knew what they were doing. They knew what the Jets were doing. They didn't have a passing game.
And he still had success. He has always had success. They should have one of the more changed offensive lines. So there's, and I think there's a lot of, we're tired with Breece Hall. After he was running back four as a sophomore, we got too hyped and he disappointed a couple years in a row. But right now where he's being drafted, there is upside where he can finish as an RB1.
Obviously, he's not on a great team, not a great offense. The scoring opportunity is not going to be there. But he's explosive. He's using the passing game. He's their goal line back. He's basically everything that some of these other guys are just not on a good offense. All right, we'll take a quick break and come back with the rest of the rankings. What's going on for Klan? If you know anything about this show, you know we're all about making leagues amazing. And part of that as a commission, a lot of the times, I've set up websites for the different leagues that were in. All of the teams and the players and the records and things like that.
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then this is a job for indeed sponsored jobs. All right, Cam Scataboo comes in at 16 on the rankings. We did just talk about him quite a bit. It was awesome as a rookie. You know, he was number one in the entire NFL in terms of the percentage of his rushing yards after contact. Like, he got it done. He could fight through tackles. Everything you saw on the college tape, he just translated right into doing it to, you know, linebackers and...
you know, corners and everything else at that. Only Ken Bone Walker had a higher force mistackle rate. Yeah, I mean, he brought it up, too, of like, that's his way of avoiding punishment. You know, when we were chatting with him, it was like, if he hits you first, then his legs don't take punishment. He doesn't take that damage. He is totally fine to damage his head so long as he's saving his legs. Yeah, and he was just great. 17.4 fancy points per game in his starts.
But I just am at this place where I don't know how prescriptive anything they did last year was. You know, Tracy, how often do you involve him? You know, what does Dart and this offense look like? I don't know the answer. Matt Nagy, Greg Roman, Brian Callahan, that trio scares the living daylights out of me. They're also going to be... What a trio. Yeah, I mean, but Cam is... Triforce of Sauer. We were so close to Cliff here. But Cam is just kind of...
He's the kind of guy that more momentum in the game, more opportunities in the game, he wears people down. So I hope that this offensive brain trust can recognize that and not take him off the field. I could easily say that you have a third downback. Yeah, I could see it happening down the stretch where the choice is kind of taken away from them. You know, I would not be surprised if you come out.
And week one, and for the month of the season, it is a three-way committee. You know, they get Devin Singletary, his, and then Tyrone Tracy. Tyrone Tracy is the two-minute back and some passing downs back, and first and second down is can. But I do think as the season goes on, kind of what happened in his rookie season. You just see, like, we can't really take this guy off the field. He can do it all. He's really, really good. So I expect him to have a better second half than the first half. He's a scary pick to me.
Because there are ways it could easily go wrong, even though love the talent, love the player. And if you had the right coordinator, like, and maybe they do. Maybe they just say you are our. This is a team that wants to run the ball, for sure. They want to run the ball. I said that they have a good defense early in the off season. They didn't last year. I think they're going to have a good defense. Oof. Yeah. That's bold. Time will tell. They're not. The problem with that is best laid plans for teams that are underdogs a lot. It can take away your running game.
Yeah. I mean, are they going to be above 500? But that's the thing with Scataboo is that he should be involved in all three. You know, he should be, he should be a pass catching back. He's, that's like, I know he's seen as a RB1. No way. Okay. I want to know when we get to a name today on the 20 through 11 or you might be comfortable with him. Yeah. No way. If you went heavy, wide a receiver or played one Z in the draft. If I was his offensive coordinator, I would take him.
running back four because i would just give him the ball 30 times the injury is still like he is still recovering from major injury the earlier on if you you know if we can pull any of the trends from so 2017 he was the o c talking uh matt naggy he was the oc of the kansas city chiefs that was one of the kareem hunt years where it was cream hunt was led the league in rushing you don't dismiss that for indy reed though
Well, just hold on. Okay. So he led the, so tons of 272 carries, 63 targets. Matt Nagy parlays that into becoming the head coach of the Chicago Bears, which, to his credit, had incredible success in year one. Running back wise, it was Jordan Howard was at 250 carries, only 26 targets because it's Jordan Howard. The next year we had Montgomery at 242 carries, 35 targets, and then that followed up with.
Montgomery 247-68 targets. So he's, I'm saying, it's not out of the, like, it's not like when we're looking at Monkin, where it's like, there's just the stretch, you know, like he's got a guy who for sure carries the ball, and then he has a guy who for sure catches the ball. He utilizes or, you know, at least has used his guys sort of correctly. We'll see if he can.
continue that in New York. The ceiling case for Scataboo is an RB1. He can easily finish as an RB1. It's just a scary process of where you're putting your trust. Well, 15 is Jeremiah Love of the Arizona Cardinals, 21 years old. I mean, everything you could ever want in a featureback skill-wise. Elite in every way. I mean, he is a dominant receiver, but you're on the Cardinals.
And you're on Cardinals' offense that has Tyler Algier. I mean, I haven't heard a whisper about a play from James Connor this offseason. Maybe you guys... I think he's still hurt. Okay. Well, maybe that explains it. Because all I've seen is Alger and Jeremiah love sharing work. Which is an issue, at least the way that they have publicly talked about James Connor. Like, they're still talking about him as he is...
very much in the plans for the running back room and he's not even I've seen him out on the practice field that's why I'm confused not not playing but like talking to coaches and stuff so and in pads so I'm a little bit confused about like there's a lot of rumors about Connor filling in gaps in different teams like maybe the lions with the MCL spraying to Pacheco
go after James Connor to be a backup to Gibbs. Situations like that where the running back rooms are thinned out a little bit. I think that when Marshaun Lloyd inevitably gets hurt. That you've had Connor recovering from his injury and then Trey Benson continues to be hurt. I think that that probably weighs in right now of the Cardinals. Do we have a third running back that we know we can at least get on the field? Genti was the RB6 in ADP last year.
First round pick. Bijan was the third running back as a rookie prospect. Zeke was the third running back off the board as a rookie prospect. Love is now 13. Like we, you aren't paying. I don't hate it. A ton of money. I mean, if you trust LaFleur at all in making decisions that are advantageous to his team, scheme-wise, like the improvement from Gannon to LaFleur on offense.
Like if you go, what is that, rational coaching? Yes. The fallacy of rational coaching. Your path to victory is Jeremiah Love getting as much work as possible at 21 years old with the third pick in the draft. I guess I'm just curious if that discount is enough for you to take a shot at it. I'm okay with it. I've spent most of the offseason being kind of prepped and concerned to be completely out on Jeremiah Love. Running back 13.
Even, you know, the rankings and projections is slightly behind that, trying to factor in some dumbness from what the coaches are doing. But prospect-wise is like, I think Love was a better prospect than Genty was. I think he is a better prospect than Bejohn was. Like, this is a true elite player to me. And I just that, so Bejon went at the running back three in, for ADP-wise, when he was a rookie. And it's not.
