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Week 11 Buy or Sell + Vetoes, Trade Phones, TNF Preview

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fix or you can discuss that as a group. You don't have to have a formalized veto system to control that. It hurts me to hear I don't want so-and-so's team to be good. What's the point of a trade is to make your team good? There are so many trades that happen in our league and I hate every single one because I usually think someone won. You know what I mean? You make a trade with someone and I go, oh, dang it. I'm so upset because one team got better in my opinion on that trade and I don't like it.

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But I would never, ever, ever say, so you can do it. Not to mention that trade might very well go the complete opposite direction. We've seen that over, you know, almost 15 years of playing. You think you steal a player. We looked back at a dynasty trade yesterday. Oh, man. Did you see that, Mike? When I unloaded Gurley this off-season? Yes. Yeah, that trade now seems bad.

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I sent Todd Gurley away in a Dynasty League for Dalvin Cook, a first rounder, and two second rounders. And two players. Robbie Anderson. And Robbie Anderson. At the time, that seemed like a fair trade. That was right before the knee news with Gurley. Yeah. I mean, it was just the doubt was there from the playoffs. But trades can go sideways. Nobody when that went through thought I stole Dalvin Cook or thought that Gurley was.

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You know, some people were mad, Gurley got moved to that team. So it just changes. Yeah, my, my infamous D. Johnson trade, you know, where I got Duke Johnson. Looks like I got the better D. Johnson. Lucky. All right. Instagram question. This one's from Tyler. Says, is Mo Sanu in every week start now or do I wait and see? I'm of the opinion that you can't wait and see. It's week 11. I'm of the opinion. We did wait and saw.

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He already, I mean, you know what I mean? That's fair. Like, what are you waiting for if you're not waiting for him to be the number one target used heavily playing on all the snaps? Like, you saw, yeah, start him now. Mosanoo should be a weekly start. I like him. Yeah, he also gets Philadelphia, who their secondary is very beatable. Dallas the next week, not a, not the best matchup, but then Houston. I mean, yes, Mosanoo is an every week start. They gave a second round pick for him.

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Here's a great question from Facebook. Matthew T. says Brian Hill or O'Dell Beckham Jr. in your flex. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Yes. I am playing Brian Hill over O'Dell 100%. I'm not playing O'Dell Thursday night. Joe Hayden, Mink of Fitzpatrick. I'm not doing it. No. It's 100%. The reason I laugh and joy is because it's Brian Hill is the answer. And that's not to say O'Dell Beckham can't.

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monster his way to a great game and that is the that is his weekly yeah it's like his publicist sent us that and we have to say every week it's not like odel can't blank i'm not saying you're saying it incorrectly jay it's just what we've said every week yeah because for for 10 weeks we've said it's not like you can't break a long play that's that's most players anybody could screw up our projections by breaking a long play odel's super talented but if you think he's beating

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Hayden and Fitzpatrick after what he's been doing this year. JJ Zacharison on his pod just brought up since the Fitzpatrick trade opposing quarterbacks are averaging 10 fantasy points for the whole game. That's what they're doing against Pittsburgh. But don't you think Baker's the one to buck that trend? Nope. Because it's been so good. It's Brian Hill. Yeah. I mean, O'Dell Beckham's the wide receiver.

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37, 24, 48, 16, 61, 68, 46. Those are his weekly fit. He's not a must start every week. Man, man, that's crazy. All right. Let's go with a Twitter question here. It's from at O.L. Browning 8. Terry McLaurin or Juju Smith Schuster rest of season. I will take Juju Smith Schuster.

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I mean, you've got a very similar situation here. Two talented wide receivers with two quarterback problems. Who's the better quarterback between Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Hanskins? Unknown. Unknown. And please don't make me answer that. Who's the better player right now between Juju Smith-Schuster and Terry McLaurin? I definitely think it's Juju Smith-Schuster. He's been in the league a couple more years.

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Matured, Terry McLaurin is still a rookie. So I am on the Juju Smith-Schuster side. They both have a pretty good schedule the rest of the way. I would stack on top of your argument which players on a better team. And I believe that's also Juju. It is. I think both players have potential. I'm taking Terry. How are you? I am. He gets the Jets. He gets the Lions next week. The Lions, if you've been paying attention, they are bleeding points.

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Two quarterbacks and wide receivers. Very painful. Okay. All right. In the playoffs, he gets the Eagles again. I'll go ahead and go over to this screen. I know what I know it's coming. All right. Listen, I already lost. I will admit, I lost my juju, Amari Cooper bet, stupid Big Ben, stupid Big Ben. Stupid Big Ben, do you think about my water bet? But I want a juju smithsuster bet that I can get a part of and win.

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At this point. Or lose because of Juju twice. Sure. Mike, are you in on that? Yes. That's rest of season? Yes. So week 11 on. Waterbed. Here's another one. Can we do it again? Instagram question. Juju or Devante Parker rest of season? Devante Parker is my answer. Parker. I agree with that one. Schedule's too juicy. One of the problems with Juju is you look at the target share that he's been getting. And.

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the lack of, you know, they don't throw the ball a ton with Mason Rudolph. And if you get James Connor back, we'll give the old Odell Beckham. He can always break a big play. But you're playing the odds. Yeah, Parker's got his end of season, Philly, Jets, Giant Cincinnati. Oh, yes. You're going to, people, people are going to win a championship with Devante Parker in their lineup. Look, it happens every single year.

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that a player over the second half, who you thought was disgusting and gross. Hold your nose. Put them in your lineup. They turn things around and they win you a title. It happens. All right. Let's go ahead and go to Cassidy. Cassidy says, ballers, you guys are still offering trade advice, but the default trade cutoff in Yahoo Leagues is 11.9. What date do you guys think should be the optimal trade deadline?

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Yeah, I think we had given quite a bit of trade advice last week heading into this week. And it depends. My answer to this is it depends on your league. It depends on the nature of your league. I think the default trade cutoff is fine for the majority of leagues. Our league of record has three keepers and draft pick trading. So we have chosen to move it up so that teams have to make a decision about their roster before.

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their record is so defined that they could either sell or buy, so some decisions have to get made. We talked about it this year, maybe just moving it to match the NFL trade deadline. Yeah, if you're in a Keeper League, I think that that's a really easy target. Because if we say, you know, week eight or week nine, or we say November 1st, you know, it's going to be hard to remember every year. Like, oh, wait, what was that advice? But if it's just...

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match the actual real NFL trade deadline. Make your fantasy one. In a keeper league. Yes, in a keeper league. Make it the same as the real NFL's trade deadline. I would do that. And if you're in a regular league, I don't mind a late one. It shouldn't be 11-9 or whatever week that was. Trading should still be happening, in my opinion right now. If it's just a pure redraft, you should be able to trade right now. I would say this should be the last week.

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I agree with that. You run into, I mean, we've seen enough Meglabo leagues, whether we ask them not to. You can get into dangerous ground when you enter NFL playoffs with trades that can happen that week. And that's part, to me, that's part of strategy for fantasy is you're preparing your team for the playoffs. So, you know, this is a big, exciting time of the year. It's always very fun in our leagues when the last 24 hours before the trade deadline and we got a Slack channel up and people are. It should be a holiday.

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Like, we should have it off work. Oh, and you just talk trades? That whole night, the our trade deadline night is just everyone on a computer chatting with everybody trying to wheel and deal. I know I have no need for it because we have the technology to just send trade offers, but part of me wishes I had like a team of like six or seven runners that would run my trade offers around. Yeah. You know, deliver them. I just wish I had manually. Like an old-fashioned big telephone handset. Oh, okay. Oh, see, I want.

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Like a switchboard? No, no, no. You know, back when you had a lay-in line. Oh, okay. And it was the big earpiece and the big mouthpiece. And then when you're angry, slam it down. Yeah. Or like, I just want the normal old rotary phone. I'll give you a second. Click. I want the normal old rotary phone. So I can slam it down. But I need one for each team. So, you know what I mean? Like, hold on. It's not the rotary. It's just, it's like the bat phone. It's just one button. Yeah, there's one. There's, but it's still rotary. You just have to, you have to.

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And then it calls that team. Okay. All right. I think we got there. I think we're on to something here. I need an entire room in my house dedicated to my trade phones. The trade deadline is gone, sir. Oh, dang it. Clear this room out. Lock it up. Until next. Lock the room till next year. It's used one 24-hour period a year. That's not true right before the drafts as well. All right. Glad we could answer that one.

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Chris wants to know from Facebook, how do you deal with people not setting their lineups at this time of the year? You've got to have a rule. I mean, I like the rule. And there's debate on both sides as to whether or not players should be able to, in the best interest of their team, not fill a roster, right? Bypocalypse last week.

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We had a lot of these questions. I like the rule. I don't think that's what Chris is asking about. No, no, no, it's not. But to answer what he's saying, I think you should have a rule in your league that you must field an active roster. You have to have everybody filled. In which case, once you have the rule, you can talk to an owner and say, hey, you know, if you didn't set your lineup, you didn't get this thing done, you need to do that or you'll have to be out of the league.

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Yeah, you have to be proactive as a commissioner or as a league in this situation where you kind of have that conversation, make sure the lineups filled, and you can't have that default, in my opinion, where, you know, the commissioner is now responsible for setting three or four lineups. No. Because commissioners are going to have to make decisions. So if you need to be formulaic about it, I guess you could go based on, you know, pick a set of rankings somewhere. But at the same time, that's a disadvantage, right? Because you need...

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those owners that aren't performing to make their own decisions and not affect the league. You know, back in elementary school, whenever you go on a field trip, you always had your field trip buddy. Yeah. And you're responsible for each other. We're like in your fantasy league. I sat alone on the bus. This explains a lot. But it draft. Everyone should be assigned, okay, here's your fantasy buddy. Make sure you got the other person's phone number. Oh, stop it.

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No. People don't need to grow up and play fantasy the whole year long. Well, I totally agree with that, but there are people out there that forget to set their lineups. So have your fantasy buddy call you on Saturday night and say, dude, please set your lineup. Does he call me on the rotary? Of course. Okay. On the solo. Hey, here's another thing. Get a waiting list for your league. Every, every cool person you run into that you're friends with that you're like, I really like that person.

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Invite them to your league, even if it's full. Say, oh, man, would you want to play fantasy football with me? Yeah. Just kidding. No, just kidding. Sucker. You're on a waiting list. You wish. Yeah, just say, oh, I'll get you on the waiting list as soon. Because once you have a waiting list, it's a powerful tool. The owners that are like. You do have leverage now. You have leverage in the sense that, you know, it might motivate an owner to stick with it, make the roster moves, whatever. Or.

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On the flip side, a lot of times the hard part of getting rid of a bad owner is like, well, but who do we replace it? Yeah, or they feel guilty. They might want to leave, but they don't, they think there's going to sell you short as a league. That's a good point. It's a good point. Have some, uh, and you get no awkward conversations then. It's a simple question of, do you still want to play? No, you don't. Okay, we got somebody that wants to. Okay, goodbye. All right, let's move on. Thursday night breakdown. All right, the Steelers, Browns.

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In Cleveland, Thursday night, the line is two and a half. Browns are favored. And it's a 40 point over under, which is not a high one. Are you guys intrigued by that line at all? I am surprised that the Browns are favored. It's an interesting situation. I have to give a lot of credit to the Steelers organization for the way they've been able to piece together this season.

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