Early Top 20 QB Rankings + Draft Hype! - Fantasy Football Podcast

generally open. So there is a world where you get more explosive plays from Allen this year. You should get more explosive plays from Allen this year the way that you saw them two years ago when you had some more of those deep passes. We didn't get a lot of those with John Brown. Yeah. We had, there was still quite a few of them. Josh Allen was a far smarter quarterback this year, which that's great. I mean, we need to see him progress and become a better player.

The problem with me buying into Josh Allen really being rush heavy is his rookie year at the end when he really went off. It's because his number two, or his top two targets in that offense were Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin. This year, the rushing clearly went down. I mean, it dropped from 52 yards the game down to 31 because he had capable weapons. And now they've added possibly one.

whatever. Stefan Diggs is a top 10 wide receiver in the NFL. It takes away from Josh Allen's desire to run. He doesn't have to put the entire team on his back when they're trying to make a playoff push at the end of the year. He's got weapons. Josh Allen will be fine, but I think it's a bit more of the same for him this year. Drew Breeze at 8. Drew Breeze had a incredible season marred by injury, but...

In my opinion, one of the biggest winners of Free Agency. Emmanuel Sanders arrives in New Orleans. This is probably Drew Brees last year. I don't buy into the fact that Sean Payton had made it kind of a mistake. And then when you follow that up with signing an eventual contract with NBC, Drew Brees signing the contract saying, as soon as I do retire, I'm yours, which this is new.

This reminds me of like a recruiting deal for like a college or a high school athlete going to a college. This might have to happen now with the success of Tony Romo. Players are going to start signing eventual contracts. Yeah. Tony Romo, I mean, he got himself paid, but he got a lot of other players paid too. Yeah. And so, and these quarterbacks are seeing that they can maybe make more money in the post career. I mean, Romo's making more money now than he ever did playing. That's crazy.

Breeze sitting at 8, that seems like the right place. We've got them all similarly ranked 8, 8, 7. You certainly don't get mobility with Drew Breeze. You get efficiency with Drew Breeze. That's what he's going to give you. The weapons that he has, you know, they don't drop the football. So Breeze is the most accurate quarterback in football, and then you've got two of the most, you know, the best hands in football.

Or four of the best hands, I guess, between Sanders and Thomas. I was going to say handsiest, but I think that is their... They're just good at catching the football. Yeah, you don't want necessarily the handsiest. The weapons are, I think, the best that Drew Breeze has had an extremely long Hall of Fame career. And this year, I think, are his best...

weapons he's ever had. When you have Michael Thomas at his peak, Emmanuel Sanders, who still was great last year, Jared Cook and Alvin Camara. I mean, you know, that's the reason that I think Drew Brees has success this year when it comes to the breakdown between passing touchdowns and rushing touchdowns. Maybe it swings a little bit more towards the rushing and gets back to normal, but I still think with those weapons, he's just going to.

cut defenses apart, even at his old age. Drew Breeze was the quarterback three in points per game from the game he returned from injury against Arizona, and that includes an absolute stinker against Atlanta in week 13. So, yeah, Drew Breeze at eight, it feels, it feels comfy, although I think that he certainly could finish a lot higher than eight. All right, Aaron Rogers, our consensus quarterback nine.

I don't even feel amazing about that. Matt Ryan at 10. Rogers last year, I did the math guys. It was complex arithmetic. I was happy starting Aaron Rogers, 37% of the time last year. That is not what he built his career on for fantasy owners. Having him at 9, I just don't know if I'm going to take Aaron Rogers in any league. I think I'm going to be looking for more upside elsewhere.

I agree. You watched him last year. He didn't look the same. He torched some terrible defenses. You know, Philly early in the season was as bad as you get. Oakland. Oakland and Kansas City early in the season. The first half of the season was they didn't get their defense turned around until late. He was top three against those guys. But outside of, you know, if he's not playing the Giants, he pretty much was really bad the majority of the season. We talk about...

if you started week in and week out Russell Wilson, it's probably more often that people, because of the name, started week in and week out Aaron Rogers, and he was not good, not good for the majority of the season, outside of five good games. Yeah, for Aaron Rogers, my thought process is I'm not going to boldly proclaim that Aaron Rogers doesn't have it anymore. He's just, he will end up being a player that I'm willing to be wrong about. Like, I won't draft him.

If he goes off and he has another great fantasy quarterback season, I'm happy for him. I'm just, I'm willing to be wrong and pass on him. I think he's going to drop down my rankings. I think when the draft happens and additional weapons are added elsewhere, Rogers is going to end up lower in my list by the time the season starts. Matt Ryan, number 10. Last year was interesting.

ended up still over 4,400 passing yards, 26 touchdowns, 14 interceptions. Todd Gurley arrives, but Austin Hooper's out the door. They added a Hayden Hearst. They might add another weapon in the draft. But where are you with Maddie Ice? He's just a solid quarterback. You know what I mean? He's not one of those guys you're excited for. You're not going to take him high for some crazy great finish. Jason, you've been firm on the ping pong narrative.

It came true. If you're looking double digits, QB7 and 2014, then QB19, then QB2, then QB2, then QB2. Last year, QB11, that means this year he has to be the quarterback too, right? These trends continue. I think that that's how math works, and so you are correct. It's going to be tough when you lose Austin Hooper to.

be much better. But, you know, he did miss a game in there and was injured for another. So, you know, I think that this is a better season for fantasy upcoming in 2020 than before, but I don't see him as a top flight option. I will almost certainly bypass him in my draft. I'm not excited about upside, about monster games, about weak winning performances. He's just a solid back that at the end of the year will finish, you know, as

Probably a quarterback one, low-end quarterback one, and that's not what I want. That's the first time I've heard a quarterback called a back before. But I guess it's accurate. I mean, I guess that's true. He's a Q-back. He's as much a back as our back. I think I would take, I mean, they're back-to-back in our rankings here. I think I would take Matt Ryan over Rogers most of the time here. Oh, man. If they cost the same, I would take Rogers. But it is. Brutal. Yeah, it is. It is.

Man. All right. 11 and 12. Carson Wentz at 11. Matthew Stafford at 12. Wentz just 10.4 yards per completion last year, the third worst in football. It is a fair story, narrative, whatever you want to call it, to say he had no one. I mean, that is true. He had a beat-up offensive line for a large period of the year, and he had no wide receivers for a large period of the year. Lost Dijacks, lost Alshan for a little bit.

still had to have Nelson Agilor on the field. Those are three strikes, you know, three strikes against you. Yeah, I mean, you saw it at the end of the season when Boston Scott became a primary... Greg Ward. Yeah, became a primary target. So, you know, you, now granted, you say, okay, well, what's really changed? Hopefully D. Jax is healthy, but he's older and he always misses games. Alshan...

Hopefully he's healthy, but he's older and he always misses games. You know, it's like, are you going to have confidence in Wince if they draft, you know, a Jalen Rager as a year one, you know, now Carson Wins is going to be better? I'll have confidence and I'll wince. Okay. That's what I like it. That's what I will do. Yeah. Yeah, I like it. My staff, I mean, with Matthew Stafford, I know that you

are excited about his potential. Sitting here at 12, do we think that this is the value pick that has stood out from our list so far? So far, yes. Yeah, I would go that way. He was, he only played eight games, but in those eight games, he was the top six quarterback. 50% of those, 50% of the time, he's surrounded by two great wide receivers.

Maybe we can get an entire season of Carry on Johnson. Maybe I don't really know. The fingers will be crossed. But I don't see any reason for Stafford to change the way that he was, the way that he was throwing it down the field. Like when he was active, he had the most. Stafford was great. He had the most passes of 20 plus air yards. Like he was getting after it like vintage Stafford. The back injury.

I mean, this is multiple years in a row now where we've had Stafford have an injury problem. So that is certainly a concern. Isn't that the first time he missed any games? Are you saying? No, no. He was not the first time ever when he, you don't remember him coming into the league? He played one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine consecutive 16 games season since 2011. When he came in the league. Yeah, when he came in the league, he had some injuries, was labeled his injury prone, then became the,

toughest guy out there. I think what Mike's referring to, he didn't miss any games the year prior. There were rumors about the back. It came out in the off season that he was playing injured with the back injury, which is what. And his play fell apart too at the end of the year. When you saw what happened, it made sense. So I'm just saying it is a little bit of a concern. We do have, we have them at 12, very curious how fantasy players treat Matthew Stafford in the draft. He'll be drafted as like quarterback 20. Yeah, that's what I would think.

Yeah, players like, Tanahill, Brady, they'll go ahead of him. Tanahill's at 13 on our list. He had the best yards per completion in the NFL. I thought this was funny. I looked this up earlier. Tanahill had 22 touchdowns on 201 completions. That is a ridiculous touchdown rate per completion. Jared Goff was the inverse. He had 22 touchdowns on 392 completions. So Tannahill basically...

put up the same touchdown totals on half the completions as Jared Goff. That's kind of stunning, is it not? Well, that's why people are all hot and bothered over A.J. Brown. Some of those, you know, passes that, sure, it's a 20-yard pass. That's great, but now it goes for 60 and a touchdown. Thank you, A.J. Brown. And the weapons are there. You've got to play to stop the run against the Titans. I believe that Tanna Hill is good. He can also run the ball.

He had four rushing touchdowns, and he continued that in the playoffs. So I think he's a very good option. It just depends on ADP. Is he going to be, you know, when he played, right, he didn't get to start to week seven. From that point on, he was the quarterback three. Does he get drafted with that kind of respect? Then I'm probably going to be out. I don't think he gets that respect, which means I'll be in on Tana Hill, because if you're trying to get a guy who can do the big blowup games, the big performances, I think that, you know, Tana Hill.

Tanna Hill can do that. All right. Wince at 11, Stafford at 12, Tannenhill at 13. Tom Brady at 14. I want to remind listeners, seventh most passing yards last year in the NFL, fourth most pass attempts, fifth most 20 plus yard completions to the noodle armed concerned. Baker at 15, not a good year last year. Third worst completion percentage, sacked 40 times, 21 interceptions.

Fourth worst turnover rate overall. And looked like every single one of those stats you just said. You know what I mean? Like sometimes your stats are misleading. That was just like, it doesn't matter if you're a film guy or a stack guy analytics. It was all bad for Baker. For the record, he will not look that way again because the Browns just introduced much better uniforms. All right. Uniform bump? Big uniform bump. The stripes are fire.

Well, I'm saying like, I mean, if you feel better about how you look, maybe he performs better. Yeah, more stripes, less turnovers. That's what they say. Daniel Jones. Less commercials, more touchdowns. Daniel Jones at 16. That is Mike's fault. Yes. Big Ben at 17. Jared Goff at 18. Fault, you mean that he's that high. Correct. It is your, it is, you're to blame for that high of a ranking for Daniel Jones. But it's okay. I don't mind it.