Mock Draft Mayhem + Baller Battle - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/15

I don't want to. I do that when you can give me a third. I don't want to abandon the way that you have projected these tight ends. You have, you have George or Dallas Goddard finishing higher than T.J. Hawkins. So I'm going to go with that route. Oh, my gosh. I mean, there's part of me that respects the rankings argument. That's good. I'm not the mayhem here. I thought he'd go like a Mari Cooper or something. Here's a question I have for Brooks. Do I still have that one left in mind? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good. Definitely. Nick Chubb, Patrick Mahomes and Dallas Goddard. I mean, I had two onesie positions. I had considered going, uh, Kyle Pitts. That just would have been a good time. But that would be against your rankings too much. Thanks, Mike. Too much. So high is available. So much respect. I think there's a good chance. Andy has you draft Larry Fitzgerald here soon. Um, um,

Well, he's not in the system, so we'll just make a note. The best part would have been if Keenan Allen had just swung right back to me or ETN or ETN and neither did. After my selection of Dallas Goddard in the third. Yeah, yeah, that's you, Mike. Travis E, TN, Kenneth Walker, Keenan Allen. Look, this, hey, Joe Burrow. We're having a, we're having a laugh here, but for, but I will make a serious point. Sometimes. Not right there because Andy was coming back so quickly on the turn. But taking guys a little bit out of ADP and you might get some chuckles in the room, it's okay. Be willing to stand with your process and your projections and take some players you have ranked higher. Play the ADP game. So don't take Dallas Goddard in the third. But, you know, we're all right. Okay. What's Dallas Goddard's ADP?

Not there. 606. My bad. I didn't know. You know what? Mayhem has lots of definitions. I didn't know it was that egregious. I really enjoy the fact. He's a great value then in the six rounds. The last he is. He's not, not bad there. The last mayhem episode went really poorly for Andy. Ah. And this one has gone so far pretty poorly for Andy. Interesting. It is very interesting. I knew that there was going to be a disadvantage in this mayhem drafting at the 110 because as mayhem proceeds, there is that top group that gets, you know, an early pick, I feel like helps stabilize a little bit. So I went Nick Chub, Mahomes, and got it. I have no wide receivers. I've got one running back. It kind of takes Amari Cooper off the table for me here that he shares a roster with Nick Chubb.

I can't have my top two in the two positions. Bikinis. In the twosies, in the bikinis. My top two bikinis cannot be chub in Cooper. And then you see that massive wide receiver tier drop. So I've still got a handful of running backs that I find in the upper echelon. And so I'm going to go back to the running back well and I'm going to piece my wide receivers together later, which is the cost of Mahomes Goddard. Yeah. So the choice here is Jemir Gibbs, Joe Mixen, Aaron Jones. Those are the three in consideration. When I'm looking at that, you know, the workload for Jemir Gibbs is going to be a question mark. David Montgomery is very good, very capable. The explosiveness is there for him. Aaron Jones, you know what you're going to get. I think he's underrated. He's next in ADP. Joe Mixin, ADP is going to change if we know he's back and healthy. Yes, it will.

because I took Goddard and I don't feel as secure with the Goddard pick. I'm going to go with Joe. I'm going to go with Joe Mixing here in the fourth round. I'm going to go to secure that 300 touches. along with Nick Chubb and bank on that, stabilizing my roster. I hit the button, Jason. Do I have done it? Yeah, no, no, no. Do I have done to do it? You are absolutely good. You didn't want to go three straight picks for me. I was curious whether you would go Mixin or Jamir Gibbs. I knew it would be between those. Gibbs would have been the pick had I been able to take Keenan Allen because Alan was as much safer than the Goddard pick. That makes sense.

All right, well, Chub, Mahomes, Goddard Mixing, not the roster I was expecting. Chase, Alan Olave for Mike. After mixing, Aaron Jones did go, Lamar Jackson, Gibbs, Amari Cooper, and Calvin Ridley. All right, I am on the clock. I played the game. I took someone who I think can be an elite wide receiver and Chris Olave and was hoping that a couple of running backs fell to me, and they did. At the top of my list would be, so I have Miles Sanders and J.K. Dobbins right next to each other in my rankings. Miles Sanders, numerically, just a couple spots higher. But I do think I would take J.K. Dobbins here. It certainly is a risky pick, but JK2L, as I think he will be this year, going from one strong leg to two strong legs.

I mean, a career average, I think he's over five a carry. He's just, when we've actually been on the field, he's been incredible. Problem is we haven't seen him a ton. Five a carry on five carries. Yes. That's actually what the numbers are. But I think that he is an electric player and I'm, I'm in on the Ravens offense this year and I think Dobbins will eat. So am I drafting? Of course not. Okay. All right. All right. Come on. That's mayhem. There's two great running backs that your team needs here. There's no chance I'm surviving today if I didn't give Andy this pick. After you give him Goddard, if I'm just like, yeah, you're good, Mike. I would walk out of here, Andy just punched me. So Andy, you have the power. How are you feeling, Mike? Hey, I used your rankings. You know, that's the funny thing is that I just looked yours up. Oh, really? And I thought to myself,

Self, I should use Mike's rankings. And you know what? I have Dallas. I have, I have, oh, no. I have Dallas Goddard. No, no, no. Oh. I was going to use your rankings, but I feel punitive right now. Oh, okay. And so rather than go with Kyle Pitts on the board, I'm going to go with a player you have ranked higher than my tight end so you don't feel bad. Because my tight end, you have ranked lower than this tight end. Yes. And so I just think that because Ridley's off the board, maybe there's a run on Jacksonville players. Oh, his dude. I think Ingram you grab here to secure that position. Okay. I think you have every ingram. It doesn't even make sense. You have him at six. Yeah, but I have got it at seven. I mean, you could have at least given me T.J. Hawkinson or George Kittle. I just think, I think when you see that name in the draft, it's going to be too hard to resist. Okay.

All right, I have selected Evan Engram, everybody. Oh, man. So that's great news for me. This is a great, just brawl. Just put the gloves on and go at it. Well, I started a tight end run. So how do you feel about that? You did take Evan Ingram, whose ADP is not in the fourth, I don't think. He's got to be like in the ninth round. I'll be honest. Both the Goddard and Ingram, like the mayhams, they feel like it was called. Delete a pick from both of you. I feel like I deleted my third round draft pick. And so Mike needs to delete his fourth. Remember, you're getting a fourth. You're losing a fourth. I'm losing around high. I know, I know. So you're back on the clock. Pitts is still there if you want to double up. Justin Herbert, Hopkins, Dobbins, Kittle, McLaren, Hawkinson. Starting the tight-in run means that a running back did roll back to you. That's right. And so Chase Allen Olavre Ingram is your draft.

I will be taking Miles Sanders unless you're going to burn your third pick. It is tempting to do that. And I assumed because there was Miles Sanders and J.K. Dobbins there. I assumed when only one of them came back, I was actually going to use this. I am not. And the reason I'm not is because if I use my final mayhem and allow you to... switch your pick. I actually think Alexander Madison being there. Would become my pick. Yeah, and he's fine. So I will allow you to have my... All right. Miles Sanders, baby, with Evan Ingraham. Now, what I have left... 80P of Ingram, by the way, is 806, and you got him at 409. So that's a... A slightly worse deal than you got. A slightly worse deal than my 310, 610 for... I mean, probably about the same. Both pretty bad. Man, you guys...

You guys do this for a living? Look at these rosters. I would have gone with Hawkinson, but when I saw Ingram was up above Goddard, I just had to do it. Yeah, and the punitive nature. So the last mayhemes that I have. Yeah, because I feel bad. The last mayhemes that I have are your own change your own mind. So I have one left for Mike where he gets to redo his pick and one left for Andy where he gets to redo his pick. I thought you don't get the pick for us? I've already done that. He took our quarterbacks. That's right. That's right. So I'm going to hold on to that for when I don't like your pick. When I, when you guys make a pick and I just think, eh, that's, that's gross. That's not a good pick. I'm going to help you guys out. The mayhem from here on out is just going to be kindness. Well, you guys have already murdered each other. Well, we're just showing what, like, look, sometimes, you know, you're in, you got some shoddy cell service. And it goes out and you.

And you auto pick a guy who's, you know, four rounds later in ADP as that happens. Sometimes. Let's do the experiment. This is the self-service draft. Yes. Chob Mahomes, Goddard Mixen are my first four picks. Mike took Miles Sanders and then London, Delvin, Justin Fields, Cam Acres, and Christian Watson went next. My selection here, if I am permitted to make it, will actually be a wide receiver that has a... firm grasp on the number one spot. There's been some positive, you know, take it for what you will. Momentum video discussion about Kyla Murray getting back sooner than later. So if I'm permitted to make the pick, I'm going to go with the player I think is a guarantee with Kyler there to have 10 to 12 targets a game because he's just a go-to receiver. So Hollywood Brown will be the pick.

That is not a bad pick, which means you are allowed to make it. Okay, all right. Hollywood Brown selected. Thank you. And then it's Godwin, Pierce, Lawrence, and DJ Moore. And I'm coming right back to another wide receiver that I think proven is what I need here in the fifth and sixth round. If I am permitted to make this selection, it's not going to be a ceiling play like, you know, Mike Williams with a big week. or the distribution of targets all over San Francisco with Brandon Ayuk. It's not even going to be the tried and true value of Tyler Lockett, who will have Metcalf challenging him, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. It will be the big boy with a streak of 1,000-yard seasons. Mike Evans will be the selection. Interesting. If I am permitted to make it. Interesting. So I don't want to use these up too early, but that's a terrible pick. So.

Mayhem. Yeah, I thought you were going to go lock it when you said tried and true, you know, top 15 wide receiver every single year for, you know, many years running. Mike Evans with Baker Mayfield is definitely not hitting that thousand mark this season. I know he's done it a lot in the past, but his days are done. Mike Evans has done it a lot. Mike Evans has done it at a 100% clip. Yeah, I would. I just, we need to give some respect to a man who has done it every year of his career to call it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. A lot does not infer a hundred percent. Okay. Then I followed it up with a hundred percent. But I do think Baker Mayfield. He did it with some less qualified quarterbacks. Are you saying James Winston? Sure. Well, James Winston threw for like 5,000 yards. James Winston's a backup this year. Baker's a starter this year. Okay. Why isn't James the starter?

That's fair. I mean, that's one thing to think about. So now I have to pivot. Thanks, bud. You're welcome. Hey, I'm all out for you. I tried to make a bad pick so that you would force me into it. Hollywood Brown, the targets are there. I'm going to go Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy's the pick. I need to, I think he's firmly the one on that roster. I'm going to put some trust in Sean Payton. I'm a little afraid of some of these other names. I like Deontay. I'm not going to get the touchdown totals with Deante that I want in that offense. I like Christian Kirk. No chance for emergence. Jerry Judy, I think solid baseline, high upside. And I also didn't want to take Tyler Lockett because I feel like you wanted me to. I did want you to, but I wanted it for you. I wanted to help you. I don't know about that. Really? Yeah, because I have Dallas Goddard and the third. And you're also responsible for that. Well, no, I'm not.

That was Mike. I thought Mike was going to give you like a Murray Cooper. Yeah. Stack the Browns on your team. Yeah. So Judy and Hollywood are the two wide receivers I picked up after my four rounds of chaos. James Connor Michael Pittman, Alexander Madison. Yay, he's gone. Yeah. Tyler Lockett. This didn't go well for me. Yeah. Lockett and Madison. going before Mike is very advantageous for Andy. That would have a very easy selection. So your first tied, uh, you have your first tied in to Zingham. Yeah. Uh, your first running back was Miles Sanders last round. You have chase and Olave amazing. Josh Allen in the second. Who are you taking in the sixth? So. And you got one left. Yeah, he does. Uh, the running backs top of the board for ADP, DeAndre Swift, that is a, uh,

That goes against my morals. Yeah, you have not taken him or thought about taking him in any draft. And I refuse to at this point as well. Javante, I still need more information of seeing him in training camp before. I'm willing to make that and inherit that risk. So that means, you know, we're talking about running backs like Rashad White, just take the guaranteed volume. At the back of the sixth, I guess that's not the worst thing you could do. We don't know for sure if this team is going to be any good. I would project them to not be great, and did they fix the offensive line? And then there's David Montgomery sitting down there, and I'm very interested in him, and I think I can play the ADP game to have David Montgomery come back to me. So then I flip over to the wide receiver position. I'm with you, Andy. I think Mike Evans is still a very, very good wide receiver. And it's unfortunate that it is Baker Mayfield, but...

It is what it is. And I think that Mike Evans will still end the year with over 1,000 yards. So talk to me a little bit, Andy, a little bit about Brandon Ayuk. Because I feel like you are kind of having a surge in moving him up. And that seemed that the tide has now pulled away and that you're... I'm softening. You're already kind of retracting from that. And you haven't really mentioned it on the show. Yeah, no, it's not a retraction as much as a softening. I mean, last year, this is the player with, you know, over 1,000 yards despite the quarterback to molt, eight touchdowns. That vaulted him up to number 15. But 78 receptions. I like Brandon Ayuk a lot. I think he's a super talented receiver. What softened me a little bit was looking into the splits with Brock Purdy.

when he had IUC and Debo together. And when he did. And the fantasy points per game for Debo were better than they were for IUC when both players were on the field. So, you know, and my kind of belief that Debo is just a, he's just a freak. He's better than everybody in football at what he does. He's a better running back than most running backs. He's a better whiteout than most whiteouts. But he's the main point. He's a better athlete than all of them. So it's this trust that Shanahan is just going to use Debo. And so I softened a little bit in that could I see this year going where I used the leading receiver? Yes. Absolutely. Ascendant talent. But could I also see it where Debo emerges like he did two years ago? Yep. I can see that too. So the fact that there's ambiguity at all in that area is just.

I'm not going to force it. I'm going to let I you come to me. I'm curious. I know we've been on this pick for a little while, but I am curious because we've named so many wide receivers, both Andy's last pick and this pick. And neither one of you have mentioned who I think is the best wide receiver on the board, Mike Williams. That's actually my pick. I just wanted to get Andy's Brandon Iuke take before. No, no, no. I'm only mayheming bad picks. That's a great pick. Mike Williams is still ranked extremely high for me. I have them currently sit against 16.

I think the three of us are projecting a much better season for Justin Herbert not dealing with the broken ribs. Whatever, yeah, whatever the, yeah, was it his ribs? Yeah. I mean, he was playing through a ton of pain, and it was just the ebbs and the flows of the touchdowns for a pocket passer. Herbert's still a great player, so I'm going to go with Mike Williams here. Mike Williams is a perfect selection for a team that is Jamar Chase and Crystal Lave. Mm-hmm. The consistency of Mike Williams isn't there, obviously. Like the last 18 games he's played, 47% of the time, it was exceeding that 10.5 point mark that we look at for consistency. That doesn't rate him very high, but this is exactly where you want those guys. Alave and Chase stabilizing Mike Williams blow up every other week and give me games that will give me performances that will win me a week.

So yeah, that's a good pick. Brandon Ayuk went next. DeAndre Swift, Christian Kirk. By the way, the reason I couldn't take Mike Williams, who I probably have ranked as high as Jerry Judy is because of the team layout of my team compared to yours. I mean, that's not relying on Mike Williams is non-existent. That's not been a historical thing you can do. It's a player, 76 receptions is his career high. And so do I love him? Yeah. But I need to know he's on the field. Gotcha. Iyuk, Swift, Kirk, Rashad White. who I'm sure Mike would have loved to see sneak back, Dak Prescott and Giovante Williams at 703, who I was dreaming of maybe coming all the way back to me as well. At that point, I think that that's worth. I think it's worth it. I don't know. So Mike's back on the clock here. All right. Perfect. I played the game with David Montgomery. He is my highest ranked running back left on the board. We saw all the carries inside the five go to Jamal Williams.

maybe they try and scheme some things up for their first round pick. Jemir Gibbs inside the five, but I think more often than not, they're going to try to be high tea, take the ball out of Jared Gough's hands there and just give it to David Montgomery, who did get a, he got an okay for a running back contract. I mean, guys are not getting money. The lines gave him some money, so I would be taking David Montgomery here if I am not hammed. No, he got the second most money on the running back market. Is it behind Miles? Yep, Miles was just barely ahead of them. Both of your guys will be assuming you get this pick. Free agents are signed with brand new teams. Yeah, what could go wrong? I do love both those picks. I was really sad when Swift and Rashad White and Jamal Williams went off the board. Javante, you did it again. Javante went off the board because I thought those. Montgomery? Yep, Monty is good.

Yeah, I had this hope that maybe some running backs would hang around. I was looking at Alvin Camara in the seventh round knowing that very likely a very slim suspension would have been a sneaky pick in the seventh round, I feel like, one that Jason would have approved. Not that you can not approve anymore. Deonté went Jackson Smith and Jigba, Waller, Berks. And so at this point with Mahomes and Goddard. Which you don't get to consider Berks here. he was taken right before you but it is worth at least mentioning nothing has happened yet i don't know what this cackling sorry sorry i'll reveal it in a moment but the uh the drafting sports book the line of of uh deandre hopkins going to the tennessee titans switched from kyle i don't know if plus 500 to minus 300 so yeah so a massive massive swing of

He might go there to at minus 300. He'll probably end up there. At minus 300, the books are saying we think that this is as close to a shirt thing as we can get which Hopkins. I don't think it's, it's not the end of Burke's having an actual breakout campaign, but it certainly makes it. But it's also not the beginning. Yeah, it's, look, it lowers the probability drastically. For a team that doesn't pass as off that much? Yeah. And Berks becomes the instant two in that situation. Hopkins would, would. hop into the number one role. I'm wondering if the sports books updated, though, because Hopkins last night was commenting on hanging out with... They did. Kyle said it shifted to minus 175. So it's still minus, though. But there was some pub going around with him and Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, yeah. Of course. That's produced by his team, and I would... I'm producing some of that. No, actually. Him and Chris Jones were hanging out and he was commented on his IG stuff. So...

Yeah, because he's like, please, Andy, please don't make me go to the Titans. Wasn't it love Bell hanging out with Chris Jones as well during the, right before he signed with the Jets? That's fair. What, my cat. He ended up on the Chiefs though. This worked out so well for me. Okay. It's so well. Guess you're still on the board and you can't stop it. Seventh round pick. Two rounds later. Mike Evans! You're welcome. Welcome to my team. You're so welcome. What a bad picket was. It really was a bad thing. Yes. Now I got you both. You're. Well, I told you I'm here to help. That's honestly incredible. Mike Evans going at 710 where Godwin goes at 5.11 is ridiculous. I never would have been able to pair Judy Evans if I had drafted him in the other order. I mean, you're invited in my draft. You can hit Mayhem buttons in my real draft. Yeah, I will too. Pickens goes next and then Dotson. That's okay. I'm probably looking at running back again. I took, I mean, for a draft that had four.

non-wide receivers to start two onesies in Mahomes and Goddard. To get Hollywood, Judy, and Evans as my whiteouts, I feel really good about it. Your team is looking all right. Donson Pacheco and Addison right before me. Running back options. I'm going with a player that I think is discount Jamir Gibbs. I didn't get Gibbs earlier. So I'm going with James Cook. Running back for the Buffalo Bills. Sure. Who I think is going to have. I've been trying to actively trade for him. in leagues. He is becoming somebody that I'm kind of falling in love with. So Kidarius Tony went next. Rashad Penny. Mike might have had his eyes on him. Juju, Quentin Johnston, and Deshaun Watson off the board. Oh, man. All right. This puts me in quite the pickle here because I have two players that I would love to draft here. Like really, really love to, but they're at the top of the 80 piece. There is a,

There's essentially a 0% chance I would get both of them. Antonio Gibson of the Washington Manners is here. I'm rolling right now in the eighth with just Miles Sanders and David Montgomery. I mean, Gibson is by no means a lock to have a great season. But Smooch's, aka J.D. McKissick, is going to, does that button even exist anymore? No, we retire. If it did, he would have slammed it so hard and it would have broke the desk. That got retired last year. Thank goodness. But with McKissick out of the way, Antonio Gibson should see the target share that he was seeing towards the second half of the year, which was for an eighth round running back. That is sensational. And then the wide receiver I would take right here, it's Brandon Cooks. Again, I don't think he's being talked enough about. He is the wide receiver too for the Dallas Cowboys. They traded for him when they knew that they needed to have a second wide receiver.

And I think that DAC is still a good quarterback. So this, oh my gosh, this is incredibly difficult for me. I think at this point, because there's some other wide receivers who are interesting, I, oh my gosh, Charbonnet's there, Cleo Herbert's there. I'm going to take Antonio Gibson. Oh, ho, ho, ho, you think so? You're right because I wrote down it's Gibson or it's mayhem because there's only one right pick at this spot. I think Antonio Gibson is perfect for the roster that you have right now. Let me just ask you a question. Okay. Because you keep not mayheming him.

He keeps making good picks. Is there a chance he goes through the draft and you literally don't use one? Yeah, absolutely. You're going to keep making good picks? Well, I probably not. I mean, probably not, Andy. This is really surprising stuff. He's up again. Dylan, Gabe Davis, Michael Thomas, Brandon Cooks, and Zach Sarb. Zach Charbonnet, Rashad Bateman. Mike, you're back. Oh, my goodness. So it's pretty gross at the wide receiver position now. I would have been. Very happy with Khalil Herbert right here. So my wide receiver core, I'm sitting three strong with Jamar Chase, Chris Oliva, and Mike Williams. Oh, actually, I'm fully balanced. Sanders, David Montgomery, and Gibson are my three running backs, Josh Allen and Evan Engram as my onesie position. So I'm wide open. I can kind of go any direction. Zay Flowers is at the top of the ADP. Elijah Moore is there. I'm not really.