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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Trade/Cut + #FootClan Mailbag

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Trade/Cut + #FootClan Mailbag

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Oh, Jamal, Jamal, Jamal, Jamal. Oh, I think I'm going to take Gordon. What's the latest on Jamal? Is he playing this week? We don't know yet. I think it's possible he gets on the field this week, but we don't know. There is no confirmation on that. If he does come out, he's not a startable player because you have no idea if they're going to give him two carries or 10 carries, even if he plays. For me, I'm confident in Melvin Gordon the rest of the season. I'm not in Jamal Charles. I think I would take.

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Melvin Gordon. And I would not feel good about it. So the latest, the latest news from Jamal Charles is Andy Reid said on Monday that Jamal Charles himself told him directly that he wasn't quite ready to play. So Charles is the one who's saying, I'm not ready. He's in charge? Yeah. Well, I mean, usually you have the players like, I'm playing no matter what. And the training staff is like, well, we can't let you go out there. Charles is the one saying, I'm not ready.

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So you take the trade? I do. All right. Mike in New York says, how serious are these guys? Am I crazy for thinking about moving Ingram for Diggs and B. Marsh for Melvin? No. Am I going to try and push an Ingram for Alshan Arob trade? Oh, he's going to, but Diggs is more realistic. Don't buy into Diggs as a top. Yeah.

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Five wide receiver. Don't pay that price. I am not trading four digs right now. I am definitely trading digs right now. Not because I don't believe he can be okay. Sure. But because his value is what you just asked. Should I be trading some top talent to go get digs? If other people are willing to do that, you trade digs for top talent. Mike Triplett, a beat reporter in New Orleans, even he has said, don't worry about Mark Ingram. It's going to get better for him.

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Yeah, I would not trade Ingram for Diggs. Now, Brandon Marshall for Melvin Gordon. Look, I like Brandon Marshall better. That's a team-dependent move. I think the trade is fair. You're giving up more than you're getting, but because of position scarcity and positional needs, it could be a trade you could do. All right. Let's look to this question here. Mickey in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

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That's not a real place. That sure is. We've had questions from Saskatoon before. Saskatoon's a Saskatoon. You're always saying things like, I think that's like, all right, loosen up America. You're very nationalistic. You need to include the Saskatoon's. But is Saskatoon a city or is that a saloon? It is both. Because I feel like he's in Saskatchewan, but he's writing this in the saloon. What if you go to a saloon in Saskatoon? Wait, I was going to say, is that a saloon in Saskatoon? In Saskatchewan.

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There you go. And he ordered a sassafras sandwich. A sassarilla. Yeah, you didn't go with sasporella. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Come on. You really missed. You get two minutes of silence. Get out of our Saskatoon saloon. All right. What's wrong? That's where all the handcuffs hang out. In my league of record, I went R.B. Heavy and thought I had the position nailed after my draft with Doug Martin, Jamal Charles, Latavius, Murray, Ryan Matthews, and Rashad Jenny. I like it.

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My plan was to trade for a wide receiver, but none of my offers worked out in week one. And now all of my guys are either injured or losing carries. Do I need to sell low or can I afford to wait on all of them? You probably need to not sell low. You need to sell medium and not wait. And in my opinion, you need to package a couple of these guys together. If you can trade Rashad Jennings and Doug Martin together to get...

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A prolific wide receiver right before Charles comes back into the fold, and you still have Murray and Matthews. That's how I lean. I think you could do that. I think you could also wait. Yeah. Medium is how they cook the steaks in the saloon. Right. So that's what you need to do. Medium trade. Don't sell low, though. Don't sell low. I mean, what is selling low for Jamal Charles now? It's terrible. Yeah. Flex option question from Jacob and Iowa City. Back in America, Mike, where you like it.

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I have no problem with the world. I'm just very uninformed. Brandon Marshall and O'Dow Beckham Jr. are my starting wide receivers. Great. So he wants to know who to start his flex in week three. Willie Sneed, Marvin Jones, Will Fuller, or Julian Edelman? Willie Sneed. Yeah. You stay. Will you stay in the flames at home against the Falcons? Yeah, you do. It's Willie Sneed. Yeah, there's other good options. I'm not about trying to acquire him in a number of leagues. Other good options, but I completely agree. It's got to be Sneed. Willie Sneed. All right.

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Here we go. This is somebody that is piggybacking on the trade debate question that we had on Monday and Tuesday. Very heated debate that we had that I clearly won from a legal trading and majority standpoint. Yes, you did. But otherwise I lost. I will concede that. Brandon and Cleveland, I'm not sure how I feel about this trade that went through during the weekend. On Sunday, two guys had agreed on a trade. Watkins for Zach Miller.

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and a 2017 first round pick in a dynasty league. But Watkins had already played on Thursday. The commissioner was on the receiving end of the Watkins trade, and the other guy wanted to be able to play Zach Miller this week. So they did a temporary trade in which was Zach Miller for a fourth round pick. Once players unlocked for trades, it will go through, they will go through whatever they need to do to make the normal trade. It seemed like a workaround for a bylaw. I don't like it.

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So what it sounds like to me, so they did a Zach Miller for a fourth because Watkins was locked and then, wait. So that he could play him. And then they're going to trade it. They'll probably do a 2017 first and a fourth for Sammy Watkins. That's fine. That's, I don't have a problem with it. You think it's fine? I think it's fine. You made a fair trade. Is the trade of a fourth for Zach Miller fair? Yes.

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afterwards if you wanted to trade a one and a four one and a four like i i don't have any problem with yeah you've skirted the rule here i don't like it here's why i don't like it and this is the only reason and i completely agree with what you guys are saying i don't like it because it's the commissioner yeah i don't like that it's the commissioner that's doing something to skirt the rules and work around a bylaw they made the rules the commissioner needs to be the most upstanding

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and upright individual in this group, not trying to weasel around a system. I hate this. I mean, I hate it when I see a commissioner taking advantage of their power. No, here's the way that the commissioner is taking advantage is he's getting Sammy Watkins for a 2017 first round pick. That's, I mean. Yeah, that's crazy. That's ludicrous. That's where the trade has a problem to me is just the value of the trade. People are in dynasty leagues. Someday you're going to put Sammy Watkins foot inside your mouth.

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And realize that this long-term Sammy Watkins play just may never come to fruition for you. It may not. If I can get Sammy Watkins in any dynasty league for a 2017-first because people are overvaluing 2017-first, I'm doing that in 100% of those leagues. I agree with you. I just wonder about the foot. What is happening today? I don't know. Greg and Cleveland, should I start Isaiah Crowell against Miami or Shady against Arizona?

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You got to go with. I'm going with Shady. Okay. I like sentences that start with you got to go with and then you decide. The brain was firing slowly on that one. Look, Crowell against Miami, rookie quarterback. I know that, and there's Duke Johnson factored in. Crowell seems to be the primary guy. But Shady is getting all the running back touches, all of them for Buffalo, half PPR. You got to hope he can come through with some catches in a touchdown.

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I feel more confident in that. I think it's close. I really do. Here's a story from Justin, and I have not read it, but I will be reading it now. All right. Dear Ballard, I wanted to share this story. Here's the story. Last week I had to give a presentation for work in front of about 30 people. Before the presentation, I was listening to the podcast, and I was working on...

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painting a verbal picture of a situation in this meeting. And as I was about to give the other half of the scenario, the voice of public opinion burst onto the scene out of nowhere. And I painted the other side of the story with my best Jason's voice of public opinion impression. And it shocked me. And those I was presenting to, but I think it really drove home my point. Thank you for your advice in making my work life a little.

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more interesting do you have any questions for justin but but justin why why didn't you call me on the phone and get the real deal i would have helped your presentation oh are you going to start doing consulting business work now for the voice of public opinion i think i have to see this serious business he is a business business business business but chevron

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Oh, that's good. I'll tell you what, you know, the brand is proliferating everywhere. Pretty soon you're going to be able to go to a restaurant and you're going to be able to order a Jason Moore. Oh, John started this. Oh, here we go. Oh, yes. So Jason is, oh, don't do that. I need to sound the horn. Of all the things we need the footclan for, this is the last. This is the bottom of the list. Everywhere we go, Mike gets an Arnold Palmer. And that's just Mike always gets an Arnold Palmer. It's delicious.

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Because, yeah, okay. Sell and a bomber to our audience. No, sell a Jason Moore. So, Jason has discovered mixing Sprite with lemonade and really enjoying this. It's the best drink that exists. To me, it's like a half-carbonated, like, Sprite to me or something. It's like a half-carbonated lemonade. Half-carbonated anything doesn't sound good to me. It's great. Anyway, moving on. There's no real name for it.

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So I call it the Jason Moore when I go to the order. He's trying to brand it the Jason Moore and talk casually about this. And I need your help, America? The world. It's so ridiculous when you do it, though, because I'm thinking to myself, if you ever pay and they see your card, but you never pay. That's why I need the Foot Clan. The Foot Clan need to start ordering Jason. Well, to be fair, what does Arnold Palmer do when he wants to?

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Thank you, Mike. A beverage of his name. Thank you, Mike. He says half T, half eliminate. No way. All right. Let's get back to fantasy football here. Eddie Lacey question from Jake in New York. Hey, guys, Eddie Lacey is scaring me again. The Packers don't look like they're committed to giving him the ball. Should I bail on him and sell him or just hold on him to wait and see? I'm going to use this as an opportunity to further emphasize what I said on after the show yesterday. We were talking about Aaron Rogers.

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Aaron Rogers, I believe, has gone 15 straight games, including playoffs, without a 300-yard game. You're wrong. 11, and that's, yeah. Okay, 11 straight games without a 300-yard game. This was somebody who averaged around 300 yards a game four years ago. He had many 300-yard games last year. They just happened to not be the very second half of the year. His last 300-yard game came against the Lions who he's playing this week. Continue. And was that on the Hail Mary game? No. You guys have a problem.

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You have a serious problem. Your Green Bay Apologist up and down the street. Guess who else stinks right now? I'm going to say, look. Here we go. Oh, Andy's upset. Randall Cobb stinks. Sure. Okay. Aaron Rogers stinks in comparison to what you expect from him. When you trade for him right now, you're going to pay the iron price still. And he has not been that. Last year, what was he, 10, 7 somewhere around there? The seventh best quarterback. You're paying.

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A one through three price for him. Give me Tom Brady over Aaron Rogers' rest of the season. Give me that type of a guy. Cobb stinks. Lacey stinks. Roger stinks in comparison. The offense has stunk. You actually bring up a great point. If I could trade Aaron Rogers to the team that has Tom Brady, who's obviously that's a backup quarterback for them right now. And you'd get extra. You'd get other stuff. What about just a one for one?

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No. No. Even if you believe that that's good, you're losing the value of the player in that situation. So I wouldn't go, because there's lots of guys that that circumstance exists for. But you make a package deal with Aaron Rogers, someone else, upgrade to someone else, and get Tom Brady. You could stream for a week. I like two, two weeks. Yeah, two weeks. Anyways, I guess that was not an answer to your question, although it was a perfect answer to your question. We already answered his question earlier. So if you're with Jason and Mike and you're living in 2014,

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Then don't be scared. I will say this in your... I will say this in your defense. I don't think Jordy Nelson looks like Jordy Nelson to me. He doesn't look like 2014 Jordy Nelson yet. I do expect them to turn it around. I really do. And so I think you nailed it when you said, right now I'm a Green Bay apologist. I am still in the Greek sense of the word apologizing for Green Bay. Yeah. All right. We are going to wrap it up. Hey, before we close out the show, thanks again to the 5-4 club.

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