Some people say he sandbagged the first four games on purpose. This is a plan with his dad to get out of Arizona, which, by the way, that would be a great plan. Great plan for all players. If you want a sandbag and get out of Arizona, I don't blame you. The Cardinals. Oh, but if you did do that, Marv, if you did that, freaking great job. Yes. You looked terrible. Yeah, I mean, you, you sand, you were convincing. Oh, man, you are one of the best sandbaggers.
Week 5 Studs & Duds + Marv Trade Reactions! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/12
Week 5 Studs & Duds + Marv Trade Reactions! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/12
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139 passagesOf all time. Now, I would have thought maybe you'd try to catch the ball the previous three years when it's targeted at you or like a tough catch to win a game, whatever. So in my opinion, Marv is actually unredeemable as a superstar. I don't think he can do it. I completely agree. As a superstar, there is no chance. The team did, look, the Cardinals are a terrible organization and we have ruined plenty of human beings by drafting them before.
he's out of town and has an opportunity to really revamp his career, has an opportunity to be better. He's going to care more, which is great. He's going to be with his collegiate quarterback. Yeah, he's paired with his, with C.J. Stroud, who, you know, he played with in college. And, and so part of it was, was genuinely effort and it was mental. The town hated Marv. He was in his head. He's, you know, a weak little Meowvin Harrison.
He has an opportunity to go out and show what he was in college, which was legitimately great. His route running in college is production in college. A can't miss pick is what he was supposed to be. And he's he is absolutely not good enough to get it done. Now here's the thing. I am very interested in C.J. Stroud rest of season because Marv will help the passing game there. Sure.
They have no running game to speak of. Zero. David Montgomery is now hurt. It might get better. It could get better. But I think they're going to, you know, just put five wide and C.J. Stroud's going to run this offense, which he's been capable of doing this year so far. It's just wild. The Cardinals getting a second out of it. Congratulations. Second from an 0 and 4 team, I guess, 1 and 4 at that point. That's true. That's true. Which is also who we. Tatell is, you know, his practice window has opened up. So, yeah, they're going to try to open it up. Honest.
To goodness, C.J. Stroud has looked pretty good this year. Oh, yeah. Ironic, considering their own four, I would have thought, if C.J. Stroud can just figure it out, this could be a Super Bowl contending team, and C.J. Stroud figured it out in their own four, or they were. The defense, DiMico Ryan's taking over the defense of play calling shut everything down yesterday. In every single Dynasty League in the world. Just getting Camor did that. Let's get another week under the belt. In every single dynasty league in the world, the question is being had by everyone in the league. Should I?
Try to trade for Marvin Harrison, or if you have them, should I be trying to trade Marvin Harrison away? This could be a cell window for him. And it is. I don't think you're going to get superstardom. Nico is, I mean, infinitely better than he is. But you're going to get targets. This is what I was talking to you, Jason. We were talking when we were golfing, a beautiful golf course. 44 over. Dude, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.
But we were talking about the fact that, like, if you just targeted Marv 10 times a game in Arizona, you're going to have, he's going to look a lot more like a good receiver. The numbers are going to be okay. He's going to get targets in Houston. That's going to happen. Whether he's worth anything in fantasy next to Nico Collins and stuff, I don't know. He will never be to the level of a T. Higgins. T. Higgins is what I'm saying, because that's like he's the second.
wide receiver on the team. That feels like the goal. That's the goal. The goal is, hey, we've got our T. Higgins to our Jamar Chase, and he should go out there. He should catch a ton of touchdowns, which, to be fair, is the one thing Marvin Harrison has done so far in his career. He's got plenty of touchdowns. So I think they're hoping they get T. Higgins. You didn't. Yeah, C.J. Stroud has three top 12 performances already this year. That matches the total from last year. He's looked good. Adding Harrison does not hurt him. Nope.
The big news for, you know, despite week one being not that great, this is a Michael Wilson. Like for fantasy football, you know, this is great for Michael Wilson. And everybody that's like, oh, man, I guess he needed Marv on the field because Marv was off the field. It was a joke. We had a great tweet. We had a great tweet of like, here's Michael Wilson without Marv on the field. And it was a picture of Marv. There's problems in Arizona, though. And we know this. Yeah. One of the problems is you're going to have a transition to Carson Beck soon.
Two and 15. That's Jacoby Brissette's record as a Cardinal quarterback. He looks amazing on scripted first drives. Looks like cheeks for the middle two quarters. And then when the other, when the defense moves to prevent, you gather a bunch of garbage time. Yeah, that's all it is. If you look at his fourth quarter stats, he's amazing. Oh, the garbage man can. It is not because he's so clutch. He's got ice in his veins. He's a fourth quarter guy. Six scores. It's because the other team stopped playing. He's playing against backups or prevent.
it's buns the cardinals are now moving to the we grew up in arizona and they're now moving to the level that they were when i grew up which is garrison hurst thomas jones players we drafted that were absolute booty here left to have near hall of fame careers they are a disgrace and you know it's a gift for us in arizona for them to make headlines because then we get to talk about how horrible
ownership is and this team is. Yeah, we get to see how we ruined Jeremiah Love. Which it seems like we're doing. All signs point towards Caleb Williams returning in week six as quarterback of the Bears. That's probably good. He looked good in like pregame warmups. DJ Moore is questionable with the shoulder for tonight's game. Monday night football Josh Palmer ruled out. I imagine DJ Moore is actually going to go in this one.
but he's always at a re-injury risk and leaving early risk. Yeah. If you had DJ Moore and Keon Coleman, who are you starting tonight? That's a great question. I actually think if DJ Moore is active, I would still start him. DJ Moore. I think I'm on the other side. That's fine. Yeah, I don't blame you. I feel like. If you needed five points guaranteed, I'd start Keon Coleman. Yeah. But if you needed 25, I might try DJ Moore out. Yeah, it's really tough. I mean, DJ Moore, he's played through this injury, right? He got injured.
Here's what's funny. He got injured in week two, came back in week three, right off the bat. Ten targets, six for 67, had a very good game, and then got injured last week. So it's either you can get ten targets or he can reaggravate and Kean Coleman. Yeah, it's not an easy one to know because we just don't know how, you know, severe it is. Let's take a quick break and get into more news. Injuries were the story going into the week, a bunch of tough situations where guys were coming back from injury, playing through injury, Ashton Genti being one of them.
That didn't work out. Trayvion Henderson left early with a right ankle injury, did not return. Dude, we started this game thinking it was going to be him with no remandre. And then Ramandre is active, and he got hurt. And Ramandre scored before he got hurt. It is annoying. David Montgomery left early with a groin injury. They say he's going to miss multiple weeks. Butterfly stretch, man. Will Shipley left early with a foot injury. Multiple weeks due to a partial tear of his plantar fascia. That's painful. Will Shipley.
He's gone. Damien Pierce is now the sole running back. Yes, he is. That team has been devastated. Oh, the end of that game? There were three games this week that seemed like they were over for the other team that, I mean, giving up a monster kick return.
To my guy, Andy. Was it Abdullah? It was Amir Abdullah Express. That guy's career just keeps going. I know. It's unbelievable. He settled into what he is. Yeah. The commentators in that game literally were talking about the Eagles victory. They were talking about what this means for the rest of the season for the Eagles, how the morale of the team that has been so bad now is uplifted. They came, they battled through, they got a W, whatever. Their morale was not uplifted.
And their head coach is my fault. That's what he said. And it was. Will Shepley, they'll miss in time. Roman Wilson expected to miss a couple weeks after leaving early with a finger injury. If you look at the box score, a couple things for Pittsburgh. One, Rogers is playing great. He is playing great football. Two, D.K. MacGaff sucks. Yeah, he does. Three. Pitman and Wilson are gone. As is. Bup, B. Bernic. Yeah. So listen, Jeremy Bernard is going to go. Jeremy.
He's going to be a huge pickup this week. I already picked him up in a couple weeks because I just, I didn't believe necessarily that the Roman Wilson 30% snap count would be the most repeatable situation. The muth got super luth, also viable. When more do these guys go down, Rogers is a, he's a trust man. You're listening to him talk about Jalen Warren yesterday? If you would like to hear him say something. I would trust Jalen Warren as well. If you want to talk. He's very good. Like Roger's not the most positive dude. But if you want to hear him like,
Say nice things about somebody. Go listen to him and talk about Jalen Warren for 10 minutes. He's not playing that great. I know. Oh, he's playing wonderful. He is not.
No, I've watched these games. He's looked great. I thought he's looked very good. He has looked okay. But like this last week, he had 235 yards and three touchdowns. That's amazing. For fantasy, that's great. But like he had an 80-yard dump-off screen that Jalen Warren took to the house. Three weeks in a row with three touchdowns? I get it. Top 10 quarterback for three weeks. He's playing great. I've watched these games. 71% completion yesterday? He plays against Tampa Bay this week. Great matchup. Are you starting Aaron Rogers, Andy?
And let's find a bet on that. One, I started him this week in a league in one because of them. Two, am I starting in Tampa Bay after Tampa's defense played the way they did last week? No, I'm going to find somebody other than Aaron Rogers. But what I do in the future is not what he's done in the last three weeks, which is play great. I mean, you're talking about a 4,651 touchdown season over the last three weeks. I think that's pretty good.
I completely agree that his results have been awesome. I mean, he hadn't thrown for that many yards. I mean, he hadn't thrown for that many yards in like five years, Jay, and he's thrown for that many yards in three straight weeks. Yeah. You're basically holding a dump off against him. He has a dump off touchdown. I remember watching. Like he can't accumulate yards and touchdowns the rest of that drive if he doesn't run down the field. As I watch that game, I remember turning to Mike and be like, man, people are going to like.
So you wanted to stand up against him? It was just, I think that how some of this is happening is, I mean, hey, if it happens every week, great. I'm just not going to, I'm not going to buy into it continuing. He has looked much better than last year. That's true. They're going down the field. They're actually attacking. And that could be McCarthy change. I would not have started and played him in a league ever last year under any circumstance. And he was a spot start for me this week. And it worked out.
Quintan Judkins was seen in a boot with his right ankle. So we're going to be talking big time. We're going to be talking big time waiver pickups. And that was the ankle that was the massive injury last year. I don't know if that has an effect on it, like, you know, a reaggravation, but sucks that it's that one. Yeah, Casey Concepcion, brutal hit, left with a concussion. Debo left of the hamstring. The weirdest injury ever. It looked like it was a concussion.
The way he let go of the ball on the way to the ground. I didn't know it was a hamstring. It didn't seem like a hamstring. It didn't seem like he didn't reach for anything. It looked like he got hit with a with a sleeping dart that you couldn't see. Maybe hamstrings hurt more now. Exactly. Three darts too much. Trey Harris. Dude.
The last remaining wide receiver for the Chargers. It went down with a hamstring and was almost uninvolved before that. It was a lot of like Gadsden and the running backs. I mean, I am the shame this week. And part of that is because my Green Goblin was that Justin Herbert in a game that I knew he'd have to pass a bunch would throw for 149 yards. He was under 100.
insane. I'm not sure if that's where he finished. No, he might have been 105. 121. Okay, yeah, the last drive. Their next four games are on the road against the Chiefs, on the road against the Rams, at home against the Texans, and then on the road against Baltimore. At best, they could win one of those four games. So you, at best, would be one in eight. Correct. I mean, I don't think Harbaugh is going to stick around. I think he's going to melt into the concrete. He can't handle losing like this.
T.J. Hawkinson Concussion. Kenyon-Saddyke concussion. Michael Pinnock's left with the rib injury and they left with an L. I'm not laughing at the rib injury laughing at the fact that Tua comes in for like, what, two plays and throws a just disgusting game-ending interception? Unsurprisingly. I mean, it was impressive. It was just very unsurious. What we all knew was coming. Yeah, and you saw the face that was on the sideline of Michael Pinnock's.
